RAM cleaner for new vegas?

Post » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:04 pm

i remember a variety of tools for oblivion and fallout 3 had one i think that cleaned out your ram periodically. is there one in the works for new vegas as well?
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Post » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:34 am

What OS are you using?

Win7 has a pretty decent RAM management, so no need for this
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Post » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:16 am

windows 7. i read a review that said there was an ram manager for FO3 which i didnt use my self but i keep crashing in menus all the time so im looking to try anything and everything so that i can actually play the game.

i disable steam sync, downloaded the dx9 dll file. ive used the normal launcher and the 4gb launcher and i updated my audio drivers and the new 260.99 nvidia patch for my 285. i disabled OC on my card. i even uninstalled and reinstalled the game and i dont know how many times i have verified my files. the weird thing is that the farther in the game i got in my other two playthroughs the better it seems to run which makes me think there is some quest script error or something in the beginning of the game that messes it up. no ffshow codec and i even uninstalled divx. so far im just using Darns UI mod and a couple of mods that change very basic things like energy weapon ammo damage. i disabled Darn UI since its always a menu crash but it still happens. im getting bummed. :(
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Post » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:19 am

Check out www.tweakguides for some good reasons not to use the D3D9 dll and to disable facial expressions (which are apparently very buggy - possibly memory leaky?). Check your process explorer after a CTD or during a major stutter session and see what the RAM usage is. It might not be RAM related, but could be part of the audio glitch, or something else.

Cheers,

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Post » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:51 am

What OS are you using?

Win7 has a pretty decent RAM management, so no need for this

This.
No need for any kind of RAM "cleaner" with Vista or 7
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Post » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:21 am

Well not exactly a ram cleaner, and no guarantee it will help, but I use http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html. I also use the other free tools from iobit frequently to maintain my system.
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Post » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:38 am

Check out www.tweakguides for some good reasons not to use the D3D9 dll and to disable facial expressions (which are apparently very buggy - possibly memory leaky?). Check your process explorer after a CTD or during a major stutter session and see what the RAM usage is. It might not be RAM related, but could be part of the audio glitch, or something else.

Cheers,

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I see no good reasons there, the guy from Tweakguides isn't some kind of infallible oracle, he gets stuff wrong...frequently. His "good reasons" for not using the DLL is that he says it causes "a range of problems" that's not exactly concrete evidence is it?

As I have posted else where, if you want to see the graphical difference then here

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_z1odMghQc7A/TMcPZB-NqbI/AAAAAAAAAEs/2DU1CrEQfb4/s1152/ScreenShot43.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_z1odMghQc7A/TMcPS5yfa9I/AAAAAAAAAEo/LMNJqCVDwxY/s1152/ScreenShot44.jpg

I'm not saying it doesn't change anything, it causes the flickering of objects on the horizon to become more noticeable, but then not using the DLL doesn't fix that completely. It also introduces some slight aliasing when the camera is in motion (I dont think the LOD clamp is working) but unless you specifically look for it it's barely visible. It can also cause issues with fans not detecting temperature changes and therefore overheating your card...use a hardware monitor or just manualy crank your GPU fan up, problem solved.

Yes it can cause a few extremely miner issues, but does that mean people should play New Vegas at 2 FPS instead of using this temporary bodge to get 60...no, don't be ridiculous.
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Post » Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:32 am

This.
No need for any kind of RAM "cleaner" with Vista or 7


Windows 7 isn't going to help if the game engine itself has a memory leak. Not that I think New Vegas does, I'd stick with the "It's not needed" assessment just not for those reasons.

Well not exactly a ram cleaner, and no guarantee it will help, but I use http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html. I also use the other free tools from iobit frequently to maintain my system.


These one stop super fixes are almost always a bad idea. Even if they are not actively malicious you don't want a third party program making sweeping changes with no notification like that. Just learn what your processes are and close the ones you don't need before you play. Run MSconfig and do a selective startup, stopping all the services you never use. Defrag your own HDD and, if you really want to, run your game at "above normal" from the task manager. You've achieved everything that program does without leaving key system files in the hands of an amateur bit of freeware.
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Post » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:49 am

Sweeping changes? Hardly.

P.S. I am a LONG term PC user and builder. I am very careful about which tools I use.
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Post » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:59 am

i should probably specify that when i say ram cleaner i meant something that cleans the cache ingame like streamline did for oblivion. i havent use any ram optimizers for years even with xp i never had any issues. however, when playing oblivion streamline helped alot with keeping the game moving along so you didnt have to restart after long sessions. if you played for awhile the game would start to slow down and streamline solved that for me.
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Post » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:52 am



These one stop super fixes are almost always a bad idea. Even if they are not actively malicious you don't want a third party program making sweeping changes with no notification like that. Just learn what your processes are and close the ones you don't need before you play. Run MSconfig and do a selective startup, stopping all the services you never use. Defrag your own HDD and, if you really want to, run your game at "above normal" from the task manager. You've achieved everything that program does without leaving key system files in the hands of an amateur bit of freeware.


Not in this case. I and many other people have been using gamebooster for over a year with no problems. For someone not comfortable with making their own optimizations it's a great program, and completely safe. Their OS optimizer, advanced system care, is the only OS optimizer I've used that doesn't break my computer. Definitely not an amateur company.
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Post » Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:55 am

Not in this case. I and many other people have been using gamebooster for over a year with no problems. For someone not comfortable with making their own optimizations it's a great program, and completely safe. Their OS optimizer, advanced system care, is the only OS optimizer I've used that doesn't break my computer. Definitely not an amateur company.


I'm not saying that that program will make your computer explode, I was merely pointing out that it is always better to learn how to optimise your own system than let a third party program do it based on what "most people" don't need running. For example "hidserv" for most people will be a useless service, and would be turned off by a program like that, but if you have a gaming keyboard or mouse and you stop hidserv then it's going to turn off all your hotkeys/shortcuts/extra buttons.

Also...automated registery cleaners are a terrible idea. They offer virtually nothing by way of performance improvements, and can cause fairly major system instability. The chance of this happening with a well made program is fairly small, but the small risk still isnt worth the microscopic amounts of performance. If your system is so screwed that your registry is causing noticeable performance problems then a quick scan isn't going to solve your problems, you need to reformat.
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Post » Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:17 am

i should probably specify that when i say ram cleaner i meant something that cleans the cache ingame like streamline did for oblivion. i havent use any ram optimizers for years even with xp i never had any issues. however, when playing oblivion streamline helped alot with keeping the game moving along so you didnt have to restart after long sessions. if you played for awhile the game would start to slow down and streamline solved that for me.


As I mentioned before, I assumed that's what you meant, but you shouldn't be using mods that unloads cells unless you are having noticeable problems with memory usage, unless you are trying to fix a specific issue then it's more likely to cause CTDs than it is to improve your performance. The memory management in NV seems markedly better than Fallout 3, no signs of any memory leaks, for me at least.
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Post » Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:26 am

I'm not saying that that program will make your computer explode, I was merely pointing out that it is always better to learn how to optimise your own system than let a third party program do it based on what "most people" don't need running. For example "hidserv" for most people will be a useless service, and would be turned off by a program like that, but if you have a gaming keyboard or mouse and you stop hidserv then it's going to turn off all your hotkeys/shortcuts/extra buttons.


It's got checkboxes :goodjob:
I also optimized my system myself, so running this may not be needed for me, but it doesn't hurt.

Also...automated registery cleaners are a terrible idea. They offer virtually nothing by way of performance improvements, and can cause fairly major system instability. The chance of this happening with a well made program is fairly small, but the small risk still isnt worth the microscopic amounts of performance. If your system is so screwed that your registry is causing noticeable performance problems then a quick scan isn't going to solve your problems, you need to reformat.


Like I said, it's the *only one* that hasn't broken my computer.
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