Okay, you guys have been great at getting these mods to work for me, and I'm nearly in smooth running now, however, Bash Patch, 0.esp is being weird about Unlimited Rings/Amulets, ( the tweak doesn't work unless Unlimited Rings and Unlimited Amulets are installed as well, but BOSS says to use the Batch Patch Tweak for that...).

I'm also starting to get more frequent crashes. I hate to be a pest, but this is the best place to go for help for noobs such as myself.

WB load order:

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
05 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
06 Better Cities Resources.esm
07 CM Partners.esm
08 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.5]
09 DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0A Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
++ MOBS SI.esp [Version 1.2.2a]
0B MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp [Version 1.2.2a]
0C Better Cities .esp
0D Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
0E Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
0F Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
10 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
11 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
12 IWR-Lights.esp
13 IWR-Windows.esp
14 IWR-Shutters.esp
15 Living Economy.esp
16 Living Economy - Items.esp
17 Cutthroat Merchants.esp
18 Landmarks.esp
19 DLCHorseArmor.esp
1A DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
1B DLCOrrery.esp
1C DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.3]
1D DLCVileLair.esp
1E DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
1F DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
20 ALE_Armure_Legere.esp
21 EY_Vampirehunter.esp
22 StockClothingArmor-forExnems.esp
23 LC-Compilation-Exnem.esp
24 ExnemWarriorBikini.esp
25 BlackRogue.esp
26 Vampiress Armors For Exnem Body.esp
27 Slof's Horses Base.esp
28 Slof's Extra Horses.esp
29 DLCThievesDen.esp
2A DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
2B DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp [Version 1.0.4]
2C Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
2D FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
2E Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
2F FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
30 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]
31 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]
32 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
33 FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp [Version 0.9.9]
34 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
35 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
36 Mart's Monster Mod - Zombies for Body Meshes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
37 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
38 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.5.5b3]
39 Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
3A Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Fransfemale.esp
3B OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
3C Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
3D DLCFrostcrag.esp
3E DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
3F Knights.esp
40 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
41 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
42 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0]
++ Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp [Version 3.0.0]
43 Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp [Version 3.0.0]
44 Automagic Bags.esp
45 Unlimited Rings 1.0.esp
46 Unlimited Amulets 1.0.esp
47 Poison Arrows.esp
++ Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp
48 pizz's BeastTaimer.esp
49 _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
4A CM Partners.esp
4B CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
4C CM Partners NPC.esp
4D CM Partners More NPCs.esp
4E CM Partners Marker NPCs.esp
4F CM Partners Fayle.esp
50 CM Partners Xu.esp
51 CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
52 IlluminationWithout.esp
53 Sher Ja Lion Companion.esp
54 Better Cities Full.esp
55 Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp
56 Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp
57 Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp
58 Better Imperial City.esp
59 Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
5A Bashed Patch, 0.esp


I can't thank you guys enough for the help.

What is Illumination Without, and what do you mean by you need the Unlimited XX mods installed? The standalone plugins have nothing to do with the bashed patch. Uninstall them. The unlimited XX bashed patch tweaks are under "Tweak Assorted" I think.

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/outdatedmods

Illumination WIthout is Illumination Within without the extras like shutters and such. I'll try the WB Patch Tweak again, as I said, it's been weird lately. Have you spotted anything in the load order that could cause the random crashes?

Thanks for responding so quickly.

Do you have Wrye Bash v283? IWR is not optimized, so you should upgrade to AWLS. What OBSE version and plugins are you using, if you are using any?


Edit: Are you using the latest version of Harvest Flora? The version bundled with OOO 1.33 is bugged.

Edit: Remove Slof's Horses "Base" and "Extra". MMM 3.7b3 includes the resources, so they are not necessary. Uninstall the mod entirely. One thing that could cause crashing is over-taxing your system. Try removing OOO-WaterFish, and you need to update MMM Diverse Waterlife.

http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/walkthroughs/fcomguide/requiredownloads <-- link to the MMM update here

I'm using WB 283, OBSE 0018 (no plugins) and as for Harvest Flora... When it was mentioned in a previous post, I looked and found a crapload of various ones, so I just walked away from that for the moment. It didn't seem important to waste your and other helpful peoples' time asking about it.


EDIT: Well the game will crash in a small building just as easily as outside, so never occured to me that it might be something like OOO-Water

There is only one version of Harvest Flora on THE http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=2037 page, and the bug in the old version IS serious.


http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/stabilization/stabilizationmods
http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/troubleshooting

Thanks for the link. The two pages of Harvest Flora variants left me confused.

A good indication of which variant is the original or the "current" (updated "officially" recommended) version is the download count.

http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/search.php?name=Harvest%20Flora&scid=20&author=&mname=&desc=&size1=&size2=&downloads1=&downloads2=&udate1_day=&udate1_month=&udate1_year=&udate2_day=&udate2_month=&udate2_year=&ldate1_day=&ldate1_month=&ldate1_year=&ldate2_day=&ldate2_month=&ldate2_year=&endorsemants=&images=&readme=&advltonly=&page=1&orderby=downloads&order=DESC


Edit: Further pressure offloads: MMM Looting NPCs & Creatures, OOO-WaterWeeds

Edit: There is also an MMM update for a DLCHorse armor and Slof's Horses (complete) compatibility update. I think the I linked it on the page I linked earlier, but you can always check the first post of the MMM thread for current updates...actually, these updates are in the 3rd post.

Ah, good point.

That is not uncommon; otherwise, I would not have written this: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/downloadmods/tesnexus.


Edit: I added some more suggestions to my previous post.

Thought it was 3.0 bundled with OOO and 3.1 was the update?? (just checked and mine is 3,0... :facepalm: )

The version number on the latest HF release was not updated, but the latest release is indeed 3.0.1.

Edit: It would be so nice to have that mod re-uploaded with that one change. We have to ask that question every time, no way to tell...

Bash is saying that "One or more masters are missing." about Harvest Flora. I uninstalled previous then ran OMOD and have:


Harvest.bsa
Harvest - dlcfrostcrag.esp
Harvest - dlcvilelair.esp
Harvest -shiveringisles.esp

what's missing please?

EDIT: Nvm, it was in the folder, but the OMOD didn't pick it up, so had to drag it over manually.

Have you already reinstalled the new OMOD? ...ehh, you are missing the many HF plugin. Those three are just add-ons, so they kind of need the main module.

Yeah, i found the Harvest.esp that the OMOD didn't install so WB isn't complaining about that anymore.

Wrye Bash complains for a reason (unlike some other tools *cough* OBMM *cough*...) If you install an OMOD with a black square, the results may not be pretty, especially if the plugin OBMM has detected as conflicting was not installed by OBMM. It will not install the conflicting plugin, but it will remove the installed plugin that was conflicting. Yup, just have to reactivate the OMOD, and then everything is all good again...too bad if you just spent an hour installing OOO 1.33 or something, still gotta start over...

So far, the hardest part about getting all this to work has been FCOM. Too many plugins. I like nice tidy OMOD's. But I think my FCOM worries are over as long as I don't have to reinstall the game.

Keep a copy of your load order around so that you can remember what you need to have installed, or something close to it. (Requirements may change a little bit with future updates...but probably not much.)