You can buy Fallout, Fallout 2 and Tactics in a set at almost any store that sells video games for about $15 to $30 or you can buy them on steam. :fallout: :celebration:

is that all you have to contribute to the conversation? at least i bring out the facts and statistics.

the fallout 3 bashers are not bethesda fans for the most part, they're fans of the old fallout games. i think you're trying to say, most of the fallout 3 bashers are bethesda fans, i'm not buying it, just own up to the fact you don't like bethesda games and you're trying to say.."oh i like bethesda i just don't like how they didn't make FO3 true to the originals", thats nonsense i don't buy. :swear:

Yeah the same old "facts and statistics" but you never respond to peoples counter points. You just say the samething over and over and over and over and over and over and, oh yeah don't forget over again.

New Vegas and Fallout 3 both won alot of awards and sold well so ratings don't mean crap. Pretty much all the posts I have read, alot of people love Fallout 3 and New Vegas and many also like the originals. You think you speak for "bethesda fans" but you don't. Very few if any think all the Fallouts but Fallout 3 svck like you do. Also your opinions are not fact no matter how much you believe they are :thumbsup:

Its been along time since I have seen you bring anything but New Vegas and Original Fallout bashing to a debate, just stuff like "Fallout 3 got a better rating so therefore its the best!" and "we need more TES elements in New Vegas" "You just hate Bethesda." When some counters your so called facts you become a ghost :bolt:.

Styles summed this all up already, but..
That is all, yeah. Until you start to contribute something too. Posting the same old "New Vegas is boring, it has nothing in it" multiple times in multiple threads - some of which never even deserved to become a thread like how this and so many other are now (like the one where the OP asked for suggestions for new characters), isn't really contributing, but spamming. And when someone bothers to take a deep breath and answer you proper, you ignore it. ...and then you wonder why you're getting replies like what I gave you.

Would you think it would be more worthwhile, if I made general answer to your point and copypasted it everywhere I saw you post?

oh i like bethesda i just don't like how they didn't make FO3 true to the originals

to me new vegas was a huge dissapointment, and i think i speak for lots of people, i don't believe you're really finding it that great still after all these months, the story plays the same every time, and the map area never changes, i don't beleive you play it over and over and over just to see a different set of end game slides, and ratings and awards do mean something, bethesda games are award winners with high ratings, that speaks to the quality of their games and the widespread popularity, something you think doesn't mean anything, all you do is trash bethesda.

But I LOVE BETHESDA :swear: I love them! I love almost every game they make! Can't you get that?!?!?!?

When did Bethesda fans elect you as their spokesperson? When? Give me the ballot numbers. The truth is, there are many forms of "Bethesda fans." There are pre-Morrowind Fans, Morrowind Fans, Oblivion Fans, Fallout 3 Fans, and Fallout fans.

And how is the story the same every time? Isn't Fallout 3s story the same every time?

And, Bethesda's formula is great, but Fallout is not a Bethesda game. You have Fallout One, and Two, and they are better than Fallout 3 ever will be.

Wow, arrogant much? I personally have had over 8-9 playthroughs now and STILL enjoy it. Just because peoples opinions don't match your own doesnt mean you're better than them. I think Fallout:New Vegas is superior to Fallout 3. Oh no, I must be wrong since it doesnt match your opinions. Also, awards don't mean a thing, just because the popular opinion thinks the sky is green doesnt make it so. Same applies to awards. Fallout:New Vegas has won awards too, something you think doesn't mean anything, all you do is trash Obsidian. :spotted owl:

i have pointed out in detail the major problems with new vegas, its a broken game in many ways, i don't just say oh its boring and leave it that, i have pointed out its huge shortcomings and so have many others, honestly most people are so done with the game they don't even bother coming to the forums anymore, the new vegas forums are pretty slow, for a game that just came out thats speaks for itself, FO3 had tons of people for a long time after it came out, its not that way with new vegas, so that right there speaks volumes, the game came out less than 6 months ago and its already dropped off bigtime, so you're in denial about the game.

Maybe people are playing the game so much they can't spend time on the forums? And, those "shortcomings" are actually things we like.

And, how are we in denial? How, explain to me, EXPLAIN!!

No, it has four uniquely different story paths with drastically different ending slides. Fallout 3 played out the same way every time.

It does, much more so than Fallout 3, the ending slides show the drastic changes that would be impossible to implement in-game.

Believe it, you see we actually get into role-playing in a role-playing game, which you do not seem to understand, you act as if it is an action-adventure game, when it is first and foremost an RPG.

Broken in what ways and compared to what? You not liking it doesn't make it broken.
Oh, but you do say "its boring" and leave it at that. Saying it multiple times and changing the wordorder doesn't really count as not leaving at that.
And again with the generalisations. Like you'd know. Infact, I do know that based on forum activity here and elsewhere, Fallout 3 is dead and buried, people hardly remember it anymore. That's a fact hard as a wedge of Gouda. Right? There was even a thread at FO3 forums asking about dead forums. That means I'm right and your wrong. Right? Right?

Who's really in denial?
Your constant repetition almost sounds like you want to prove something to yourself rather than to the others.

Yeah thats being pretty arrogant. I play it alot and I still enjoy it. Based on the people on this forum, people love both games and even taken it upon themselves to play the originals and they like them as well. People on other forums that deal only in fallout also love New Vegas. You are the only one arrogant enough to call the original fallout crap and New Vegas bad. You don't speak for "Bethesda fans" so get over yourself. New Vegas also won alot of awards so what the hell is your point in brining up "Fallout 3 won awards"? You bring up ratings, and based on peoples posts many don't care about ratings. You sticking to that just tells me you are completely incapable of determining what is good or bad on your own.

The story has four main faction endings, you can effect several smaller factions. Many unmarked quests that are moral grey. Fallout 3 is just black and white and only two endings good or bad and it plays the same every time. And I have played Fallout 3 countless times, if I hated it as much as you hate New Vegas and the Originals I would not have wasted my time playing it.




People have pointed out how New Vegas is alot like the Orignals and therefore true to the series as a whole and how Fallout 3 is not. Yet you just complain that the Originals don't count and are not importaint. That Fallout should be like TES because Bethesda makes good TES games. You only care about Fallout 3 not the whole of Fallout. Its a wonder anyone even bothers to read your posts.

Alot of people come to the forum and its still very active. People I know have taken a break from the forum simply because they are sick of the New Vegas vs Fallout 3 threads.

Actually awards do mean something and for you to say they dont thats just outrageous. Its from the people that say that and award it that award. yes vegas has won awards but not enough as F3 has. And that speaks for something. Those awards arnt just givin away willy nillie. Its the people that say "hey this game had this this this and this in it so therefore it deserves this" it doenst get the award for no damn apparent reason.

And really to all of you. Stop acting rude in this thread i can already see it has gotten pretty out of hand. Stop bashing on other people constantly and have a little respect.

YOUR your in denial. To say that F3 is forgotten is to say that no one remembers a famous president. Everyone still knows about F3 and just after 2 years doesnt mean its gonna be slipped away from peoples memories. I have seen more "is New vegas getting boring or Vegas boring." threads than if F3 is boring...

You didn't get the sarcasm there. But it's ok.

And since you continued... Of course you have, but have you considered that maybe there is no "has Fallout 3 gotten boring and stale" threads, because maybe it already has and there's nobody to make those threads anymore, maybe no-one plays it anymore but a select few who just can't let go of the past.

Ok sure. But im gonna make a comment to that. Its like saying that no one plays F1 or F2 anymore because they cant let go of the past.

His he being rude? At least he is not out to derail every single thread that has anything to do with Fallout New Vegas. Even ones that are just about character creation. At least he does not come on to a Fallout fan site and call Fallout aka Fallout one crap!.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y-tL_kGUes

Lol you sly dog you. You would.

But also hes just also stating some important evidence.

You missed it again. And... Wait... People not playing F1 or F2 anymore because they can't let go of the past?
Anyways, we aren't really discussing about anything here. So how about we continue when we both have a point to it?

How about we agree to disagree.

I think this will get you fired up. Fallout trilogy isnt on gamestop online...NO....its sold out. and even better it was being sold for only 15 dollars what a deal!!

Even funnier it has a thing to rate its graphics and people rated it a 5.5 out of 10.

Its only importaint to sum. Yes Fallout 3 won awards so has New Vegas. New Vegas got nominated for alot for Writing awards and Fallout 3 did not, so what does that tell you? So just because Fallout 3 won more awards, it means that every other fallout is crap?

When thats all someone brings up over and over again gets annoying. Having people call Fallout and Fallout 2, pointless, old and irrelevant just shows that they don't care about Fallout and as you may put it, very rude.

Before you rush to defend someone you should read their posts.