Every damn server that kicks me for bull **** because I continuesly use a weapon owning your asses have no right to **** kick me for that ****. If you dont like the big guns then take them the **** out.

learn to aim, so you don't need the "big" guns!

And learn more about the game u are playing, than you know: it's not possible to disable the "big" guns, cuz than the server is unranked!

Hmmm.. how about "asking first" before "kicking"? That would be the right thing to do.. not someone getting mad cause he's killing them, then just kicking him. People get stupid like that.. they just "start kicking" for stupid reasons, instead of being polite and asking someone not to use certain weapons....

Well if you're pwning everyone you should leave and join a server with better players... it sounds unfair but noobs have a right to kick pros

lol ... better extrem lol

so pros are using HMG, L-TAG and JAW ... don't think so

on my server is a message on the loading screen, I type it at every round in the beginning and everybody gets a warning (except someone doing it after some rounds playing on my server, so he should know it) .. if somebody don't understand that: not my problem

I pay 35 € per month for the server (including TS3), tell me one reason why I should play with people, who are using noob weapons

BTW, it's a great gameplay without these 3 weapons and meanwhile I have a growing fanbase .. alle these people are joining just because of no noob weapons (and some more reasons, but that is the main reason)

BTW 2, to play without HMG, JAW and L-TAG is an official ESL (electronic sports league) rule

and that's not the only rule:
- no personal offense
- no racism
- no cheat
- high ping (max 250)

If somebody can identify with that itself, don't hesitate to join here:

learn to aim, so you don't need the "big" guns!

And learn more about the game u are playing, than you know: it's not possible to disable the "big" guns, cuz than the server is unranked!

Wtf, learn how to aim ? You cant be seriously addressing me with this bs suggestion. I am talking about using the MMG (Mounted Machine Gun). First of all the servers I go to are ranked servers.

I like using the MMG on crashsite to clean out the hold on it. The MMG is part of the game, no one should be kicked because it is used to dominate a game or use the majority of times and get almost two times the kills from everone if your not hacking.

My style of playing is I rotate on gun usage depending on who I am playing against in whihc I may lean on one weapon more than another. It all depends.

There is a weapon to use for each situation and condition.

lol ...

yeah, if you are able to aim good, so why you have to use the MMG (HMG) (there is no tactical excuse for that, e.g. use a grenade for more enemies) ... but, what are I'm doing ... no comment any more concerning this, that is senseless

lol ...

yeah, if you are able to aim good, so why you have to use the MMG (HMG) (there is no tactical excuse for that, e.g. use a grenade for more enemies) ... but, what are I'm doing ... no comment any more concerning this, that is senseless

So why use a snipper rifle, pistol, scarab, L-Tag, X-43 Mike, Jaw etc etc.. Sounds to me in your eyes a good player is counted as one that runs around using a pee-shooter all the time. So if your not using a pee-shooter then it automtically means the player cant aim ? Thats a pathetic idea.

I think the reason why most people use different weapons is based on their module setup and what they are confortable with.

Very much it is a sensless thing to say its not tactical when good players can avoid a grenade cause that is what is expected on a crashsite map. A good player would do the unexpected thing instead, not something that is predicatable. Thats why most players have common sense to position themselves to manuver a grenade throw but will not be expecting a MMG firing on them. So this is not tactical ? You are deluding yourself if you think not.

A general message to server admins, it is lowly to kick someone cause they bested everyone on your server with a single weapon and not ch

you are a laughing stock ...

... lol ... do the unexpected ... rofl ... that is you first FPS, h??!

Using a rocket launcher, grenade luncher or now a MMG is definitely nothing "unexpected" ... every other good clan server at any game don't allow these weapons ... and as I said, to forbid these weapons is a official ESL rule -> electronic sports league, where the official wars, cups and ladders are been played.

I don't understand your problem, dude ... there are enough servers out there, where people are playing with the same non real competition opinion like yours ... why you are don't playing there?

or ... much better ... pay 35 Euros per month and you can do your own rules!

you are a laughing stock ...

... lol ... do the unexpected ... rofl ... that is you first FPS, h??!

Actually no, my old Crysis name is Renegade, and CODBO, and BF2 its Alpha Renegade. No problem AIMING in those games

Using a rocket launcher, grenade luncher or now a MMG is definitely nothing "unexpected" ...

The expected is what is the common game play tactics vs the uncommon game play tactics that would be that would leave it as the unexpected. Raiding a crashsite with a MMG is very much unexpected expecially when the crashsite is on the other side of the map from where the MMG can be unmounted from. Expectation in this are higher for the oponent to throw a grenade

... every other good clan server at any game don't allow these weapons ... and as I said, to forbid these weapons is a official ESL rule -> electronic sports league, where the official wars, cups and ladders are been played..

ESL rules do not forbid the use of a MMG . A MMG weapon is part of the map ie a map given weapon to any and everyone. No clan server follows the rules, rules are acted upon when it suit its purpose.

... I don't understand your problem, dude ... there are enough servers out there, where people are playing with the same non real competition opinion like yours ... why you are don't playing there?..

Non real competition ? Show me where specifically it mentions a map weapon, the MMG, is forbidden to be used. You and clan server admins can make rules up that done exist. If you have rules to your server then damn it post it. Give a warning. Just dont go out of FEELING cause your clan is getting their azz's handed to them you want to kick someone. Its plain and simple WRONG !

everyone. No clan server follows the rules, rules are acted upon when it suit its purpose.

... or ... much better ... pay 35 Euros per month and you can do your own rules!


Tell ya what, you want to teach me some aiming lessons ? Invite me "Sultaan" next time you play on a server.

as I thought and wrote in my second post, don't write anything, he won't get the point

I'm a visionary!

Have a nice one (life), man ... I don't invite you, you know where I'm playing

PS: but you don't know anything about you are writing ... e.g. that is a ESL rule, your explanation about "unexpected" is a joke, and so on ... so grow up, or take less drugs, or whatever

http://www.esl.eu/de/#/eu/crysis2/inaction/1on1/ladder/leagueinfo/

http://www.esl.eu/eu/crysis2/inaction/1on1/ladder/leagueinfo/#/eu/crysis2/inaction/1on1/ladder/rules/

as I thought and wrote in my second post, don't write anything, he won't get the point

I'm a visionary!

Have a nice one (life), man ... I don't invite you, you know where I'm playing

PS: but you don't know anything about you are writing ... e.g. that is a ESL rule, your explanation about "unexpected" is a joke, and so on ... so grow up, or take less drugs, or whatever

http://www.esl.eu/de/#/eu/crysis2/inaction/1on1/ladder/leagueinfo/

http://www.esl.eu/eu/crysis2/inaction/1on1/ladder/leagueinfo/#/eu/crysis2/inaction/1on1/ladder/rules/

Where is it you see ESL forbidding the MMG ?

take the first link

Today i got kicked for the 1st time ever from a ranked server, can't remember the name of the server sadly.
As usual i was doing everything but defending the crash site and at the last second of the game i decided to use the HMG(MMG call it how you like), killed a player and the game ended. Right after the game ended i was kicked.

So i thought, lets go back to this server and ask why i got kicked. Then i found this discussion.

In conclusion, they pay for these servers they can do whatever they want, i don't really care. Kicked from one i can play in another one, too bad you can't have a "ignore server list", where you can add servers using these rules.

In conclusion, they pay for these servers they can do whatever they want, i don't really care. Kicked from one i can play in another one, too bad you can't have a "ignore server list", where you can add servers using these rules.

you're right, man ... so could everybody choose


on my server is a message on the loading screen, I type it at every round in the beginning and everybody gets a warning (except someone doing it after some rounds playing on my server, so he should know it) .. if somebody don't understand that: not my problem

so everybody can see it, while joining ... I see no problem for that

take the first link

Ok, I saw it:

Forbidden weapons and attachments:
Using the mounted machinegun is forbidden in any ESL competition. Other limitations like forbidden attachments or forbidden weapons can be found in our rule section. It doesn′t matter if you are using an attachment or simply have it attached to your weapon. All cases will be handled the same. We recommend to enable the kill cam to see if a player has forbidden attachments on his weapon. You have to take a screenshot of the kill cam to prove it.

However though this pertains to ESL Matches using ESL settings, doesnt it ?

Agreements:
ESL matches must be played using ESL settings above. However there are two server-side CVars that can be changed if one player or team is requesting it.

ESL setting are not standard server settings so standard servers are exempt from ESL rules as they DO NOT USE ESL settings. I am right or wrong here ?

In conclusion, they pay for these servers they can do whatever they want, i don't really care. Kicked from one i can play in another one, too bad you can't have a "ignore server list", where you can add servers using these rules.

I couldnt agree with you more. However, how in the world are we suppose to know if a warning is not given or server reference rules are not posted ?

If you have a server make a web page, blog, or whatever with rules about your server. I surely hate getting booted from a server and to lose XP and awards over someone's cockiness.

Its like driving down the street with no posted speed limited but you get pulled over and issued a speeding ticket.


Edite: Another way to know is to post "ESL Server" with the server name.

However though this pertains to ESL Matches using ESL settings, doesnt it ?

yes, I see, you can read :p

ESL setting are not standard server settings so standard servers are exempt from ESL rules as they DO NOT USE ESL settings. I am right or wrong here ?

omg ... if somebody owns a server he can do what he want with it ... there is no other point! leave and join another server

... for example: I'm playing at the ESL and I want to train with the same rules, besides for me the rules are 100% sensful!

However, how in the world are we suppose to know if a warning is not given or server reference rules are not posted ?

perhaps those guys making it wrong, you are right in this point ... but anyway, their money, their server, their rules ... leave and join another server (perhaps you understand repeats)

As I wrote:
on my server is a message on the loading screen, I type it at every round in the beginning and everybody gets a warning (except someone doing it after some rounds playing on my server, so he should know it) .. if somebody don't understand that: not my problem

there is nothing more I can do ... and there is nothing more I will do

"Using a rocket launcher, grenade luncher or now a MMG is definitely nothing "unexpected""
this

every sever with good ping about have these players

... for example: I'm playing at the ESL and I want to train with the same rules, besides for me the rules are 100% sensful!

Btw you might want to change your server type from standard to "Pro" or "Custom" if your running configured ESL specs

"Using a rocket launcher, grenade luncher or now a MMG is definitely nothing "unexpected""
this

every sever with good ping about have these players

You miss undersood me. I am speaking of when it is used and the purpose.

... for example: I'm playing at the ESL and I want to train with the same rules, besides for me the rules are 100% sensful!

Btw you might want to change your server type from standard to "Pro" or "Custom" if your running configured ESL specs

As I wrote:
on my server is a message on the loading screen, I type it at every round in the beginning and everybody gets a warning (except someone doing it after some rounds playing on my server, so he should know it) .. if somebody don't understand that: not my problem

there is nothing more I can do ... and there is nothing more I will do

Hi guys I don't intend in getting overly invovled in this debate but i have to say that the MMG is part of the map and should be used as such! I also believe that the MMG has a tactical roll to play, as every move, good or bad changes the outcome of the game.

I also agree that if I ran a server whatever the cost, I would be open for negotiation as far as rules where interested and of course it goes without saying that the Mod would have the final say, at what cost, I don't mean money.

Regards sk4man