To snap Ulfric's hirelings out of their trance we need to begin with a frank acknowledgment of the basic humanness of each of us. And we must acknowledge that Ulfric is secretly saying that I should just stampede into the abattoir. Let's start with my claim that I must doubtlessly add my voice to the chorus of those who work together towards a shared vision. Once we realize that, what do we do? The appropriate thing, in my judgment, is to establish democracy and equality. I say that because he is locked into his present course of destruction. He does not have the interest or the will to change his fundamentally demented ballyhoos.

Ulfric is careless with data, makes all sorts of causal interpretations of things without any real justification, has a way of combining disparate ideas that don't seem to hang together, seems to show a sort of pride in his own biases, gets into all sorts of mendacious speculation, and then makes no effort to test out his speculations—and that's just the short list! He keeps saying that he can convince criminals to fill out an application form before committing a crime. For some reason, Ulfric's lackeys actually believe this nonsense. Ulfric's bromides have kept us separated for too long from the love, contributions, and challenges of our brothers and sisters in this wonderful Empire we share together!

Judging by the generally obdurate nature of Ulfric's buddies, I can see that if natural selection indeed works by removing the weakest and most genetically unfit members of a species then Ulfric is clearly going to be the first to go. Your support of my disquisitions is an ideal way to tell vainglorious boneheads just what you think of their nonsense. But don't take my word for it; ask any pea-brained philologaster you happen to meet. His arguments would be a lot more effective if they were at least accurate or intelligent, not just a load of bull for the sake of being controversial. Ulfric demands that his fulminations be discussed in only the most positive light. To ensure that this demand is met, he sends his crime syndicate after anyone who fails to show the utmost deference when planting big, wet, sloppy kisses on Ulfric's behind. Nobody wants him to create widespread psychological suffering, but Ulfric insists on doing it anyway. As a final reminder, please don't let Ulfric's prevarications dissuade you from improving Skyrim. Let this letter serve as your compass while you journey through his wilderness of lies.

I thought this was going to be about his armpits. I'm disappointed.

Bob. You're my new best friend.

I agree. Ulfric should be eliminated. I think when, or if, Skyrim becomes independent, Ulfric will have a rude awakening, as he is not fit to rule a nation. He has served as Jarl of a hold, yes, but even then he has a superior who tells him how to run his hold.

Ulfric thinks he can defy the Empire, and most importantly, the Thalmor. Well I will just say this: he has another think coming.

I can't believe I read the whole post.......

Poor Bob...

On Topic:
Nice rant.

Inb4 the entire storm of hatred...

I don't even know what all that rambling was about. Did I miss something?

I agree that Ulfric should go but I also think the Empire needs to go and make way for something new. But it should happen after the Thalmor are slaughtered in a bloody war and they all get a bad case of dead

I'd like to point out the difference between Stormcloak supporters and Imperial supporters. When I talk about the civil war, it's detailed, and well researched. On the other hand, well....those of you who read the whole OP know what I mean.

And when imperial supporters do post proof you just go ahead and ignore it or make a bs way to dismiss it >.>

Haha,We will never forget that^^
Bob,You will always be seen as an armpit lover

Yeah I didn't exactly know where it was going... He did rightly call it a rant though.


HAHAHAH! Made my day. AS IF the Thalmor would get slaughtered.

Rabble rabble rabble....

Please, you NEVER post proof. Way for the pot to call the kettle black. I never ignore anything that can ACTUALLY be proven. Give me some proof for once and not crap like "ULFREYK EEZ RAYCIST", No one in this whole forum will find a single instant of me actually ignoring good points. When I see one, I'll admit it. I did it just last thread to REL_Dovahkiin.

Except that's what both sides do too, not showing actual proof but just "thinking".

Well if all non Thalmor used brains and attacked the heart of the Thalmor things might work better for them

How many threads like this have you seen our side make?

Feel free to provide examples to elaborate on your points so we're not reading unsupported biases and opinions.

Pretty much thats why I don't really bother with civil war debates anymore.

Don't like Ulfric. Don't like General Tullius. I can't choose the lesser of two evils because they are all equally annoying. But General Tullius sure has some nice armor. So I'm siding with rattle brain Ulfric. Don't like his single-minded nature of acting like a badass when he only fights once, but General Tullius almost got me killed so.....