Rated M for Everyone

Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:55 pm

"Why do people want to have six with M'aiq? M'aiq is fine, fine without it, yes"


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
But that would controdict TES lore
As far as I know khajiit are almoast as promiscuous as young elves, so that would be strange thing for him to say.
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:52 am

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
But that would controdict TES lore
As far as I know khajiit are almoast as promiscuous as young elves, so that would be strange thing for him to say.



XD I did not know this of the Kajiit! Nor of elves.... Scarred for life yes?
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:08 pm

Nope. They like they'd make the games very unenjoyable, so I've never bothered.

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One thing I've found interesting is your comment that you're "not talking about graphic violence", along with several examples you gave of "well, it'd only be reasonable/appropriate to have " (brains blowing out, heavily damaged and mutilated bodies, etc)

And "So mature content can fit in TES universe if it is appropriate and not cheap.".... when all the examples you gave seemed to be cheap and gratuitous excess.


1. Appearantly thats a matter of taste.

2. That is the reason why I don't make games :dry:
Although after Skyrim is out I'll play with Construction set (or whatever it'll be called), for a while.
Maybe I'll manage to create few M+ rated quests.
Still those were only few examples, and you mentioned only ones who can be described as cheap.
My idea was recreate how selfish and mean people can be when their survival is at stake (during wars and natural disasters)
Because it needs only a little push to see what people are beneath our "civilized" mask, and in most case it isn't pretty


XD I did not know this of the Kajiit! Nor of elves.... Scarred for life yes?

This was mentioned in two in-game books- "The true Barenziah" and another one (I forgot its name) that describes inbreeding between races (it was in TES3 and it also said that there were no documented cases of beast race and men/mer inbreeding).
Anyway those books can be alot of fun. I hope In Skyrim thay have all of old books and also a lot of new ones.
Ok, I need to make new thread regarding books. :brokencomputer:
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:44 pm

End of one sentence explains last sentence. If someone would make great game with amazing story, interesting gameplay, great graphics, then it would sell even if it recieves A rating.
That is why I like Witcher series so much, they are slowly moving towards A rating, and proving that mature game that isn't ashamed of sixual relationship and our bodies can be interesting too.
Anyway something is terribly wrong with this world if Saw movies are more acceptable by society than porm :nope:

yea you can blame the victorian era socity for nudity being a hush hush thing and gore appearing everywhere.
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:05 pm

Think the dark brotherhood quest line was more important for the M rating than source files of nipbles. The first rating probably not play the dark brotherhood quests.

Add that a M rating spans from just over T as oblivion did up to X


Bingo. LeChance's corpse sealed the deal.

It had jack to do with someone making a nvde textures mod, because the ESRB isn't allowed to act on user created content. If they did, almost every game for the PC would be rated AO because we all know that there are enough sick-minded people with enough experience manipulating textures, meshes and animations to make porm mods.

Surprisingly, if the Wikipedia article is correct, this wasn't the case with that mod. This was some protest to Victorian-style ideals held by most people in America. According to Wikipedia, the modder said she was protesting "government/society/whatever forcing companies to 'protect our innocent population from seeing those evil dirty things 50% of them possess personally anyways.'"

Regardless, I lol'd at it.
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:17 pm

Honestly I'm surprised Oblivion wasn't rated M to begin with...
I think a lot of the Dark Brotherhood quest probably pushed the boundary a lot..
I'll give a example:
The Dark Brotherhood quest "Following a Lead" has you go down into Anvil's lighthouse cellar,needless to say it's pretty creepy down there. Lots of dead animals,blood everywhere...and then. The severed head named "Mother's Head" with the blood surrounding the head...it was pretty creepy in my opinion.
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:52 pm

Honestly I'm surprised Oblivion wasn't rated M to begin with...
I think a lot of the Dark Brotherhood quest probably pushed the boundary a lot..
I'll give a example:
The Dark Brotherhood quest "Following a Lead" has you go down into Anvil's lighthouse cellar,needless to say it's pretty creepy down there. Lots of dead animals,blood everywhere...and then. The severed head named "Mother's Head" with the blood surrounding the head...it was pretty creepy in my opinion.


That was excellent. Am I only one who remembers king Julian from Mdagascar2 when he talks to the "head"? I was like "I like that head" :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMIYaxB3-lc&feature=related
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:23 pm

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
But that would controdict TES lore
As far as I know khajiit are almoast as promiscuous as young elves, so that would be strange thing for him to say.

Individuals are not cookie cutter instances of racial stereotypes. Just because there are Khajiit known for being promiscuous doesn't mean they all are so it would not contradict the lore.

Either way I hope the game has a M`aiq-like character. I don't know what Khajiit lifespans are but I don't think they are quite that long.
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 3:55 pm

Oblivion was rated Teen, and later re-classified as M ~but it hardly deserves it IMO.


This.
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Post » Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:10 am

I still have my T-rated CE Oblivion copy! It may not be overtly mature, but there are plenty of signs of mature content throughout Oblivion.

Skyrim will definitely be rated M as it will clearly be more brutal and rugged. Don't expect to see this game turn into Fallout or Gears of War though. I personally wouldn't be totally against that type of "maturity."
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 10:15 am

Oblivion IS overtly mature with the corpses in parts of the game.
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:50 pm

Individuals are not cookie cutter instances of racial stereotypes. Just because there are Khajiit known for being promiscuous doesn't mean they all are so it would not contradict the lore.

Either way I hope the game has a M`aiq-like character. I don't know what Khajiit lifespans are but I don't think they are quite that long.


Well, of course there are exceptions, but somehow I don't think M'aiq is one of it.
And exceptions usually are rare and proves so called stereotypes (because stereotypes are true in most cases)

Regarding lifespan- I don't think Khajiit lives longer than humans, argonians might, but khajiit should have at best same lifespan like ordinary human, if not shorter
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:20 pm

So yeah has there been any information regarding the ESRB rating for Skyrim?

If they're planning on this being an M rated game it better be a helluva lot better than Oblivion was concerning everything that quantifies an M rated game.

Bulletstorm is M rated and it hardly goes 10 seconds without a character cussing or making a lewd remark and if an enemy doesn't explode in a shower of blood that doesn't seem like more than the body should have in the first place, then something is wrong.

L.A. Noire Depicts very gruesome murders where the victim was found beaten to death and left naked in a park. and you run across psychopaths/pedophiles (who detail their "eccentricities" in disgusting detail) can you guess what it was rated? yep it's rated M.

Oblivion has a very minimal amount of blood and an option to turn it off no less, very little amount of reprehensible language... I don't even remember an obscenity being uttered that was worse than the word "Damn"... can you guess what it was rated? Nope it wasn't rated E or T... it was rated M.

My point is that if Skyrim gets stuck with an M rating I hope they take advantage of it and don't turn it into a "Rated M for Everyone" game like Oblivion.


Well they rate it M for a reason, they dont take into account immature advlts, they look out for the kids. The whole point of the ESRB doing what it does is to keep advlt content which is: (technically NOT advlt content, but is deemed "advlt Content" because of kids)

MATURE
Titles rated M (Mature) have content that may be suitable for persons ages 17 and older. Titles in this category may contain intense violence, blood and gore, sixual content and/or strong language.

What was oblivion rated for?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESRB_re-rating_of_The_Elder_Scrolls_IV:_Oblivion

This mostly but more precise:

What Bethesda had originally disclosed to us, as an example: In that section of the game, there is a hanging corpse. What they disclosed to us was a hanging corpse in the dark, pretty far away and without much detail. And yet, when you bring a torch up to the hanging corpse in the actual game, you can see that it's very mutilated with lots of blood and bones. That was a very different depiction, far more intense, far more extreme than what had been disclosed to us

Also it was rated M for:
Blood and gore
Language
sixual themes
Use of Alcohol
violence

So, i think Skyrim will act accordingly to this past hiccup, not limit what they can do, but lear from what they did in the past, and just go all out on this one. i can expect more grusome DB quests too! >:]
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:49 pm

Well, of course there are exceptions, but somehow I don't think M'aiq is one of it.
And exceptions usually are rare and proves so called stereotypes (because stereotypes are true in most cases)

Regarding lifespan- I don't think Khajiit lives longer than humans, argonians might, but khajiit should have at best same lifespan like ordinary human, if not shorter

Stereotypes aren't true in most cases they are true often enough to be noticed.
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Post » Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:01 am

Think the dark brotherhood quest line was more important for the M rating than source files of nipbles. The first rating probably not play the dark brotherhood quests.

Add that a M rating spans from just over T as oblivion did up to X


No no no.......murder is fine but if theres a nipble out there CALL THE FREAKIN' FCC!!!!!!!!!!
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:00 pm

Also,there is no way Skyrim will be AO...look at Duke Nukem Forever it's about 2000000x worse than Skyrim and it's M rated (Blood and gore,intense violence,mature humor,nudity,strong language,strong sixual content,use of drugs and alcohol) I'm expecting Skyrim to be rated M.
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:28 pm

I can't wait to see what Skyrim's M'aiq has to say about THIS topic...

"Why do people want to have six with M'aiq? M'aiq is fine, fine without it, yes"

A game can be just fine without six and extreme gore. I understand adding some realistic ton to it (if I chop a head off, there will be blood, I get that) (there are [censored]s and skimpy women and six jokes, I get that). But in the fantasy genre there is eneogh skimpy armor and lame blood that something with taste is wonderful from time to time... I like having my chest covered in games.


dittoed
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 12:51 pm

yea you can blame the victorian era socity for nudity being a hush hush thing and gore appearing everywhere.


yeah....it's so backwards...not that I want nudity as everywhere as gore is though. They both have their places and neither (and that may surprise some who've read my comments in various threads and places) should be ruled out completely.
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Post » Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:51 am

Nope. They seemed like they'd make the games very unenjoyable, so I've never bothered.

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One thing I've found interesting is your comment that you're "not talking about graphic violence", along with several examples you gave of "well, it'd only be reasonable/appropriate to have " (brains blowing out, heavily damaged and mutilated bodies, etc)

And "So mature content can fit in TES universe if it is appropriate and not cheap.".... when all the examples you gave seemed to be cheap and gratuitous excess.

:yes:
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:14 pm

Could someone please explain ESRB ratings to me? The closest PEGI has is 16 and 18, and the only restrictions I've seen is no under age people can actually buy it.
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Post » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:41 am

Could someone please explain ESRB ratings to me? The closest PEGI has is 16 and 18, and the only restrictions I've seen is no under age people can actually buy it.


Read what i posted above
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