I apologize for the double post. As a completely seperate idea from the one above, I felt the need for more visible division. Hopefully that isn't regarded as spammy.

Anyways, I was wondering if you kind folk could critique my latest post. I just finished in the wee hours of the night here where I live, so I just want to make sure it isn't crummy and diluted with delirium. Please let me know what you think!

Also, did no one catch my Lusty Argonian Maid reference post before last? I'm surprised no one commented on that. Calling Teeka-Lei "The Grumpy Argonian Lord?" Come on... no one? Gah, my jokes are awful.

Anyways yeah, I'm looking forward to hearing some critiques. Honestly some critiques on my writing as a whole would be appreciated. I would think you could post them here in the OOC, but just to be safe please PM me if you decide you have something to say about it. Thanks!

I think its safe to say we're all in trouble once Sigourney wakes up, her and Egil are bound to be interesting to say the least.

Agreed. You guys are doing a great job of developing those characters, and the setting of Suran. I'm still hoping for the rest of the party to be arriving in Suran by tonight, though that could easily be delayed.

Hang tight you two! We'll get you integrated into the rest of the madmen/women soon!

And as always, PM me if you end up needing more information about what should or should not be going on around town and what not.

As a question to all of you, do you think the tone we've set with Oaken-Hull and crew is too absurd, or do you like the level of shenanigans they pull? Do you feel the representation is good? Do you feel like the insanity makes it difficult to take the RP seriously?

Just some food for thought...

I personally love it, but I know that my tastes are rather... exclusive. And I do think certain moments of seriousness are helping to underscore the madness nicely. On that note, I can promise you that things... well, they are going to get much darker soon, and much more "serious." Not before an overdose of delusional craziness though.

I think Oaken-Hull being insane makes sense. I also enjoy the shenanigans because it's a better launching point and juxtaposition for the depression and devastation we may be facing in the future. I enjoy his light-hearted nature and think it will be an interesting parallel to Helheim's sterner demeanor. That's just me though.

I concur. In other news, I've got a few updates/clarifications to make:

- josephb will be unable to post for the duration of the weekend. He should be back around on Tuesday, but until then I will be playing his character. Hopefully I do him justice, but in the case that I don't I will be working with him closely to make sure he stays on-character.

- my latest post includes the discussion of

- I'd like to get to Suran tomorrow. It's two days later than I had hoped to get us there, but expect it to really happen tomorrow. Better late than never, right?

- I had some other news. I'll edit this post when I remember them.

Thank you both for the information, but I think this might be considered spam by the forum rules. Take a look at Rohugh's post on the previous page.

Like I said, I'm not entirely certain, but it seems to me that this kind of stuff may very well be swept into the same category as the offending posts he made note of.

To be safe, let's keep all discussion strictly related to the content of the RP and information therein. Information regarding your individual circumstances surrounding posting should be probably PM'ed directly to me, so I can make a note of it and post it up here if it's necessary (for example, josephb's situation.)

Better safe than sorry, right?

Thanks guys!

EDIT: SO... I got my latest post up including

That having been established, I'm leaving it UP TO YOU to decide what was happening during the day up until the point I left it off with. So yeah, please feel free to flesh it out a little bit and do anything you wanted your character to do before things get crazy.

And in regards to

Exciting post, I must say, a sudden storm, really.

I'm thinking Galendor is probably going to spend the evening in meditation, so on my next post I'll be skipping straight to the sinking scene.

He does love his meditation, self reflection, etc. Helps when you have a spooky phantom man following you around, eh?

A question, in one part of your post you seem to allude that the ship tipped over and back, or what? The part where the room suddenly filled with water.

A few points of clarification:

- The storm was sudden for Resdayn. You have to remember he was sleeping until the [censored] already hit the fan. Other people probably were around to see the brewing storm, though only one other character knows why this is happening to the ship. Besides the obvious storm, of course. That one person is Kaivel. She'll be working with me on a post to clarify the cause. Everyone else probably just noticed sudden leaks and what not, and pieces of the ship falling apart, seemingly without cause.

This may or may not end up disturbing Galendor's meditation, at your discretion of course. I imagine a stream of water all the sudden piddling all over him while he's trying to meditate.

- Yes, the ship pitched sideways for nearly two straight minutes. Maybe longer, considering it was enough time for someone to drown.

- I have this horrible habit of forgetting what my final point was, so I'll just edit this post if I think of anything else.

Hi everyone, is it too late to sign up for this RP? Looked really good!

Hey JackFortune! I originally was having some doubts in how many people I wanted to join in initially, but I've changed my mind about that for the time being.

By which I mean, it's never too late! Feel free to PM me your character and we'll get the ball rolling.

EDIT: I realized this might have sounded a bit confusing. Just wanted to clarify, we are still accepting new characters.

Furthermore, I'd just like to make a note of...

An Important RP Update

You can disregard all of that, including the PM I sent you guys. Manu ended up being available, and so he was able to post his piece up. I'd still like you to read the original post, and check out and important note below though.

On the topic of this quoted post, I would just like to address one thing. This was originally posted to the RP IC thread. It's not a huge deal, but I'd just like to let you all know that if you have important information for us about a post that wont be happening for some time, please don't post it in the RP IC thread. Post it here in the OOC thread. That's what it's here for!

If you're ever thinking: "Geez, I really want to post next," please either PM me so I can "reserve" the spot for you, or let us know here that you want to act next so we know to back off. Just make sure that you aren't being spammy about it, and by all means, make sure if you say you want the next spot that you follow up on it in a timely manner. I don't think anyone would be happy if you reserved a post and then all the sudden everyone is waiting two weeks for you to do it.

Anyways, thanks guys.

P.S. - While I didn't fully accomplish my goal of getting all the way to Suran, that "boiling sea" to the north? That's the crater left behind from the destruction of Vivec City. That means we're probably about thirty in-story minutes away from the city of Suran, maybe an hour in-story at most, given that the ship is filling with water. That also means that Mhund and Prizrak... it would make sense that you two would experience the severity of the storm that night as well.

Thank you everyone for sorting this OOC after my http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1517125-reaching-heaven-by-violence-ooc-sign-up/?p=23970975. It is OK to post to say you will be posting tomorrow, or away for a while, just add some information on the RP so I don't see a flood of one liners then I won't have to bend Antisanta's ear.

That post was swanky as hell! In other news, we've arrived at Suran ladies and gentlemen!! I'm not too happy with my post, though I may just be being critical of myself, like humans do.

If anyone has some recommendations for how I can improve the post, please let me know. Strangely enough, this is one time I sincerely don't know what is bothering me about it, or what to do to fix it. Le sigh.

On the topic of Suran, it is probably of note that this whole catastrophic scene has likely attracted a whole SWARM of people to the docks to see what the hell the ruckus is. Plus, Suran never sleeps... so yeah, there would be quite a crowd behind us. Resdayn hasn't noticed it yet, so maybe one of your characters has. Just some food for thought.

EDIT: Altered my post to fix a few mistakes, and to have Resdayn pull his head out of his buttocks to notice the crowd gathering.

Man, I am just a double-posting fiend!

I've got a few important updates for y'all:

- Firstly, I'd just like to apologize for my recent slowness. The long weekend kept me busy with house chores and errands, and between that and my physical therapy, I've found myself on a shortage of time. As always, I will still be around to check up on things every day, but don't be surprised if I'm not posting so frequently for the next few days. It should sort itself out by the end of next week at the latest, then all will be well again!

- Secondly, I'd like to make an announcement that I admittedly should have made a long time ago when I made the decision, but Kaivel and I have talked some things out, and I've come to the decision that she'll be helping me GM a bit. What does this mean? This means Kaivel can accept characters into the RP, and it means she can help you all sort out any questions you have if I'm away. She'll also be occasionally helping me with super secret story elements, which is fantastic!

It also means that you should listen to her wise council should you post something that doesn't make sense, or doesn't follow the rules. So yeah! I'll be adding a bit on this announcement to the OP of both threads acknowledging her as a GM.

- Finally, I've been toying with the idea of throwing in some posts as Caius Cosades (the guy who is interrogating Helheim Halfhound in the future). I was planning on playing him myself, but I'd like to know out of curiosity would anyone be interested in playing Caius Cosades? If so, please let me know! He has a very particular personality though, so don't get offended if we decide you end up not quite fitting the role. It's nothing personal, I promise.

- That's it for now! As always, thanks to you beautiful writers for your support and creativity!

EDIT: I've got some very very strange formatting things going on with the OP in the RP IC thread, and I have no [censored] clue how it happened, or how to fix it. Please excuse the eye sore while I try to sort this out.

Sorry I've not been posting people, I've been busy with uni work and I'm doing animation so it takes a while to do. I've finished now though so I'll be reading through all the posts that I've not read and then start working on a post, so hopefully I'll have one up today or tomorrow.

Take your time joseph! I just got Elliot's unconscious body into a bed as it is, so your timing is just perfect.

A few things I'd like to touch on:

- I'm going to need help depicting Suran City. Please, PM me before you make a post that details the city, so I can go over the details with you, and we can portray this place accurately. Ask a lot of questions about the city so I can flesh it out for you, and we can flesh it out together!

- I still haven't been able to figure out what the hell is wrong with the spoiler tagging on the OP of the RP IC thread. I've reported the post to try and get some moderator assistance, so hopefully I'll hear back on that soon. Does anyone know more about what could be going on?

The spoiler tags are in the correct location, and are typed correctly. For some reason, that second CS in the cast just doesn't want to spoiler anymore. I tried switching around the names (sorry joseph, you're sheet is on the bottom now ) and re-posting the whole sheet, but nothing is working. This all started when I tried to add Helheim's expanded character sheet to the cast.

Any ideas? Suggestions?

Thanks!

Some thoughts on Suran - what is it going to look like ?

Being straight across th bay from Vivec, the city has probably suffered a lot of damage : first an earthquake, then a tsunami straight on it's heels Which means the docks area was probably close to wiped out. The higher parts (the Temple, governor's manor, slave-trading house and the high end shops and inns) probably survived, being both good quality construction and having their fundations resting on the rock.

From the descirptions already given, I doubt the reconstruction efforts would be of the same quality as the original (hence my own description of 'gaudy fronts hiding shacks'). The upper city, whith the best suriviving constructions is likely to have been grabbed by the local movers and shakers and may have benefited from decent reconstruction, but the rest would probably feel like a mix of old western boomtown, red-lights district and dock wharehouses with a hefty dose of favella to fill the empty spaces. The strongest constructions there are probably the warehouses, to keep thieves out.

Oh and an extra thought : with the ascadian plains (the plains area between Vivec an Suran) probably ruined as forested and agricultural ground (from tsunami leftovers and ashfalls), construction wood will be scarce - so I'd expect the main source being a mix of deadwood from the Red Year and and scrapped ships. Not exactly prime grade construction material.

It's been twenty three years since the destruction of Vivec City. I'm going to bed here shortly, but I'll give you basic run down of what I want to see from Suran. But before I do, throw away all your ideas about what Suran was in the Morrowind game, which is like... 40-50 years before this timeline, and would have been totally destroyed, then rebuilt. Here we go:

- The city is not dilapidated. There may be some things still under reconstruction, but as a whole the city is bigger than it was in the game, and it is far more populated than before. There are reasons for this that I will get into.

- The very first reconstruction efforts were organized by the tatters of House Hlaalu, which is something I didn't want to spoil, but it benefits you to know that the architecture is Hlaalu in design, as the city was originally. This means Suran is essentially the last bastion for Hlaalu.

- Desele's House of Earthly Delights is the only surviving structure from Old Suran.

- The temple might have barely hung on, but what was left of it would have been torn down in a show of iconoclasm by the New Temple, so they could establish their own foot hold.

- Suran is a haven for freaks, weirdos, criminals, prosttutes, degenerates, and those inflicted with Blight. What does this mean? This place has become a [censored] mecca for modern day Vvardenfell, which is mostly inhabited by such deviants. On the same coin, Suran was always a haven for those venturing north into Mount Kand or Red Mountain, and for that reason there is a large temple district, though the reconstruction would likely still be going on, because House Hlaalu and the New Temple? Yeah, they don't like each other.

- There are Bazaars and street merchants everywhere. The streets are a jumbled mess of people, animals, thieves, dealers and freaks. The city's layout is a confusing mess of buildings ranging from merchants, taverns, cornerclubs, brothels, etc etc.

Basically I imagine something like a mixture of a packed Middle Eastern or Indian city (although not as giant), mixed with some criminal haven from Star Wars, mixed with House Hlaalu styles.

Does that make sense?

I didn't expect much in the way of buildings surivivng unscathed, but a number to have been still at least partly standing to be repaired and altered later (in my mind, the Temple's building was a possible survivor, but would be likely to end up claimed as a crime boss's residence and turned into something akin to Jabba's palace...), but your description of the local fauna reinforces my impression about the quality of whatever was rebuilt.

The initial Hlaalu efforts (likely centered on where the best pre-Red year construction were since it would provide both more reparable buildings (or parts of), available construction materieals from the ruins and good ground and existing fundations to build upon) will probably be of good quality. Later efforts will probably rank from utilitarian to abysmal, averaging at lousy. Addicts, thugs, cultists, prosttutes, smugglers, pirates and other assorted freaks don't strike me as a likely source for qualified builders, nor would they have an easy time attracting and retaining them. To make it worse, the stock of good materials from the ruins would have been quickly exhausted by the Hlaalu. Neither do they be the sort to care much about things like maintenance, trash disposal and the like. Basically, I'd think it to be fairly logical for a significant par of the city to be straight into the 'slum' category.

Keep in mind, though, that despite being potentially unable to retain qualified and skilled workers, that doesn't mean it's an impossiblity. As the trip from the mainland takes roughly a day, the wealthier people of Suran would have no trouble hiring contractors and masons and such and having them come to Suran for the duration of the project. They're too close to other thriving areas to say officially that everything would have gone to pot. Just my opinion, but I know that if I were a wealthy person who chose to live in Suran for the sole purpose of making money off the desperate, depraved, and drug-addicted, then I'd also have no scruples about hiring labor from the mainland. I'd do anything to have a more fortified home that would flaunt my affluence to the wretched masses.

A quick note, I'd request that we check here that everyone is done posting before starting a new day. I'm pretty sure Prizrak has another post to be done on the night of the 18th, and our scene was unfinished as far as I'm aware. I've no objection doing split timelines for the groups, but it'll only confuse matters.

As for Suran, I agree that they'd be a fair amount of the city/town (Which is it?) that's in slum-link condition. I pictured Egils apartment being on the shoddy end of average and he's in a Hlaalu ran apartment complex. I may not have mentioned that, but it links into my next point. Since Suran has no clear leadership, I saw the various districts/buildings/etc as being someway invonved with one of the main groups. (Mentioned in Anti's spoilers, for those who havent read them) Hlaalu is likely the strongest, both for benefitting Suran and not. I figure it's best described as a city ran by favours, everyone is acting for themselves but sometimes even the city benefits. /Ramble.