Please, elaborate. TF2 was an awesome game, why do you think it was a joke? I mean now yeah maybe, with all the
"Dude, trading this for this."
"Ok sure."
Every 5 seconds instead of gameplay, but it used to be and still is an awesome game
I played TF and TFC before I got into CS back in 1998, and those games were indeed amazing.
TF2 took the FPS genre, stripped any sort of player skill out of it, and made it a stat based offspring of WoW and TF.
Coming from CS I'm hardwired with the mindset that being able to outshoot people should be the most important thing of any FPSHOOTER, but in TF2 that is clearly not the way things work. Its just simply not an FPS. I'm not standing up for the latest entries in the CoD series by any means but CoD2 and CoD4+Promod are amazing games in their own right, and TF2 is just simply in a completely different league, and cant compete. Like I said earlier its like playing WoW with the ability to manually aim.
Its like comparing Softball and Baseball, one of them is simply a dumbed down easymode version of the other, designed for those who are incapable of keeping up with the hardcoe crowd of the other.
And dont throw the whole teamwork argument out there because I've played enough seasons of CAL/CEVO/TWL with decent teams to know for a fact that 999/1000 TF2 players have never experienced teamwork on the level that our teams have.