Real Life & In-Game Marriages : V - Skyrim

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:11 am

I'm against the fake social behaviour though.

Just teasing.

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:25 am

the point is that you dont have to kill anyone other than the people youre forced to in the story. or commit any crimes outside of the essential story crimes.
the game may be about revenge. but that doesnt make it about killing people on the streets killing cops or stealing cars. they are just features.
just like skyrim having marriage. that isnt what skyrim is about. its just a feature.

My whole point at the beginning was saying that I don't care for ingame relationships because they're stale and generic and thus boring. I don't say that because I'm only interested in blood and guts(I loved Morrowind for it's great story and world.)

I say it because they're done badly 99% of the time.I know I'm making guesses here and nobody can be sure until it comes out but I just don't see it as an interesting feature.Imo it will probably be done like it always has and in the end is
waste of development time that could have been better spent else where.

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:56 am

Just a heads up. If the romance svcks in Skyrim, the game won't be as good. I and probably most people will likely rate it lower than we would have if it didn't have romance at all. Either you do it properly, or you don't do it at all.

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:52 am

Have pre-nups been included in Skyrim?

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:30 am

Relationships are good for immersemant. However there is no need to go all the way IMHO. A few well written dialogues + quests would do nicely.
Example...? The talks with crew members in Mass Effect 1 - Jenkins, Dr. Chakwas, Wrex, Tali, Joker - no romantic at all, yet great contribution to the story.

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:56 am

My whole point at the beginning was saying that I don't care for ingame relationships because they're stale and generic and thus boring. I don't say that because I'm only interested in blood and guts(I loved Morrowind for it's great story and world.)

I say it because they're done badly 99% of the time.I know I'm making guesses here and nobody can be sure until it comes out but I just don't see it as an interesting feature.Imo it will probably be done like it always has and in the end is
waste of development time that could have been better spent else where.

You're not alone Big L, I don't see it being very interesting or well done for that matter either. More along the lines of what we've seen in DA & Fable which were pointless in my opinion.

But it seems Beth has jumped on the band wagon. We can only hope it doesn't detract from the game too much.

» Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:59 pm

I hope there are a lot of choices of relationships and that it you can marry ANY one in game..who's not married already.

» Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:49 pm

Can't vote in the poll. I'm not married, but I'm not single either. =/

» Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:48 pm

Single, don't really care. I might try it just for the sake of trying it (or might accidentally stumble onto it a la Mass Effect . . .)

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:30 am

At first I thought the title said Mirage, as in the optical phenomenon. :facepalm:

Actually, mirages would be interesting in Skyrim.

» Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:59 pm

I hope there are a lot of choices of relationships and that it you can marry ANY one in game..who's not married already.

I REALLY hope this isn't what they do,
1. they already said the NPCs will be like Fallout, where only important ones have dialogue,
2. if you can romance anyone, Romance options will consist of spamming them with presents instead of custom written storylines for romancing them, making them have no emotional value *cough* Fable *cough*

So choosing wither romancing anyone or only a few is choosing between deep romances involving dialogue and quests, or generic ones where you bribe them to get disposition up.

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:49 am

99% of the missions are comprised of killing people,delivering stuff which may requires you kill someone.That is what Gta is about.It's about violence,that is it's primary feature.The story is about Niko plotting his revenge on someone who screwed him over.
And who said I'm against story or something?I like story,I just think that the relationship feature they added was stupid.When I play gta I don't want to have to stop to play mini games I might have on my real life cell phone just to unlock certain portions of the game.

Have you only played the fourth one?
And anyways, you're playing a person. People like to have fun, that's realism, so they add in mini-games where you get drunk or side quests where you hang out with people.
In TES you're also playing a person, even more so because it's a defined Role Playing game, and (I've said this before) husband or boyfriend/wife or girlfriend are as much roles as thief or wizard.

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:27 am

I REALLY hope this isn't what they do,
1. they already said the NPCs will be like Fallout, where only important ones have dialogue,
2. if you can romance anyone, Romance options will consist of spamming them with presents instead of custom written storylines for romancing them, making them have no emotional value *cough* Fable *cough*

So choosing wither romancing anyone or only a few is choosing between deep romances involving dialogue and quests, or generic ones where you bribe them to get disposition up.

*Dances 3 times and belches*

''A wedding ring would suit my finger''

*Buys cheap wedding ring*

''We need a house to move in''

*Buys cheapest house in town''

''Let's get married''

*Marries, has six, kid, don't care about the wife because it was lame. Leave and never get back to her or just kill her*

Fable romance system in a nutshell. It's laaaaaaaaame.

It also didn't make any progress from the very first one to the most recent one. In fact, the females in the first ones were the most attractive.

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:49 am

Have you only played the fourth one?
And anyways, you're playing a person. People like to have fun, that's realism, so they add in mini-games where you get drunk or side quests where you hang out with people.
In TES you're also playing a person, even more so because it's a defined Role Playing game, and (I've said this before) husband or boyfriend/wife or girlfriend are as much roles as thief or wizard.

I've played vice city,S.A., and the lastest one. Anyways

I don't think realism has been a high priority for Gta.In each one you're essentially an unstoppable one man army who can carry an armory of weapons in his pockets with as much ammo to boot.

Side quests/minigames/relations are alright so long as they don't manifest themselves so poorly.

And I think that Romance will always be implemented badly unless a considerable amount of time has been spent on it as has been said in a previous post.And why even spend that much time on
romance itself?It's an rpg,not the sims.

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:43 am

And I think that Romance will always be implemented badly unless a considerable amount of time has been spent on it as has been said in a previous post.And why even spend that much time on
romance itself?It's an rpg,not the sims.

Exactly, it's a Role Playing Game.
As in, you play a role, the role of a character, and the deeper the character the better.

Also if you think Bethesda is going to cheap out, you've obviously got no idea of what you speak.
On multiple occasions they have axed content because it was unfinished or poorly implemented.

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:59 am

Exactly, it's a Role Playing Game.
As in, you play a role, the role of a character, and the deeper the character the better.

Also if you think Bethesda is going to cheap out, you've obviously got no idea of what you speak.
On multiple occasions they have axed content because it was unfinished or poorly implemented.

You kind of defeated you're own argument.It's an RPG.You define your character and you decide how you deepen the character's story/role.
And because of this they cant let the romance get too specified.And with something like romance that is bad.

And honestly,you're bringing this discussion into an entirely new arena.You and I could argue Bethesda's merits until our fingers fall off and the sun goes supernova.

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:19 am

No option for me there .I Live with my Partner and we have 2 kids. But i'm not married. . We r living in sin lol

Been together for 23 years so i guess it's more like being married.

I think getting married in the game will be very funny.

I also hope i can get divorced though,so i can work my way around all the hotties in Skyrim haha. I agree what some one said in another post about that screen shot of the Barmaid . I'll save her untill last as she looks like a keeper lmao

» Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:19 pm

A relationship requires an extreme amount of work and dedication, and if you've found a person who makes you want to commit in such a way, one should never let that person go. I take marriage very seriously, as well as any commited relationship... Today, divorce rates are embarrassingly high... The sanctity of marriage cannot be matched by a video game... I'm glad that they added it in, but, the only thing it'll add is a role playing element, for me...

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:57 am

I'm in a steady, live-in co-dependent relationship, and I'm excited for Skyrim relationships.

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:23 am

I personally think that any depiction of six/relationships between a player controlled set of pixels in a human form that doesn't exist in real life and a computer controlled set of pixels or a computer controlled set of pixels with another computer controlled set of pixels is unbelievably freaky.

Digital images of a real existing person are ok, because at least conceivably you could talk to that person/have six with that person without a computer

But in-game relationships?

UGH

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:49 am

I'm single in real life and think marriage in TES is a waste. My opinion has nothing to do with me being single, it has to do with me Role Playing a hero saving the world, not wasting time with getting married.

There are so many other things that could have been added and made better instead of wasting time on marriage. You want to marry in a game, go play Fable. This is TES, it doesn't need marriage.

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:27 am

I dont mind romance and marriages in games, aslong as it doesnt dominate the game in some way.

And i can see one good thing about marriages in Skyrim, that most people should be able to agree on i think. Now the useless houses will at least have one more use rather then just being a place to dump your loot

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:26 am

I'm not married, but I do have a girlfriend. I like romance options in RPGs as they make the world more believable / mature if done well. At least I don't want to play too duty obsessed eunuch characters.

I'm single in real life and think marriage in TES is a waste. My opinion has nothing to do with me being single, it has to do with me Role Playing a hero saving the world, not wasting time with getting married.

There are so many other things that could have been added and made better instead of wasting time on marriage. You want to marry in a game, go play Fable. This is TES, it doesn't need marriage.

Ok, so your hero is very duty obsessed. Can't he marry someone AFTER he has saved the world for an even happier ending?

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:20 am

Ok, so your hero is very duty obsessed. Can't he marry someone AFTER he has saved the world for an even happier ending?

Actually NO. After saving the land of Tamriel my character will still have plenty of adventuring to do. I spend maybe 5% of the game in a house, or houses, that I buy. The majority is spent in Inn's or in the wilderness or in dungeons. I don't have time for marriage in a TES game.

» Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:13 am

im single and am not really bothered either way tbh. i'll give it a go in game but just because its a feature to try out. i think relationships in game is a bit weird tbh. its like walking into a shop and buying a "lads mag" it can be embarrassing. i prefer real life relationships i guess.

edit: just thought of one great idea of making spouses amazing. they can put books on shelves for. that would be a big reason to have them