Forget that musty fallout shelter your grandfather dug in the backyard. If you want to make it through the next zombie attack, earthquake or nuclear war in style, just write a check to Vivos, a California company that's trying to build a network of swank shelters across the country. For $50K and up, you'll get an underground home "designed to withstand a 50 megaton blast within 10 miles, a series of force 10 earthquakes, 450 MPH surface winds, a 1,000,000 volt electromagnetic pulse (EMP), and flooding submersion for up to 500 hours." Of course, you'll also have to sleep in bunk beds surrounded by 200 of your closest friends, and then deal with survivor's guilt when you resurface after a year and learn that your less fortunate neighbors have already been eaten by the alien lizard people.

As highlighted by The Guardian, Vivos plans to build 20 underground "assurance of life" centers around the U.S., where up to 40,000 people can survive whatever kills off the other 296 million people in the rest of the country.

This would've been cool in 1960's. But today, I don't really see use for fallout shelters. The worst that can happen now is a nuclear terrorist attack. An all-out nuclear war, or alien/zombie invasion is extremely unlikely.

This would've been cool in 1960's. But today, I don't really see use for fallout shelters. The worst that can happen now is a nuclear terrorist attack. An all-out nuclear war, or alien/zombie invasion is extremely unlikely.

True, but nothing in this world is predictable. Who knows what may happen, years or even decades from now.

What about a virus break out? Some epidemic supervirus that is resistent to anything we have? That's not unlikely at all i think. As for Nuclear War, i think the chances of that will dramatically increase by the time we get closer to the complete depletion of fossil fuel sources, not to mention other recourses vital to modern mass industry. I think there is a real chance of that happening in the next 50 years. If we haven't fabricated proper alternatives to our energy production and massive drains of recourses by our industry by then, i think there is a real chance of a crisis occuring, tensions increasing dramtically and in the worst case a conflict. That would inevitably lead to world war and almost certainly nuclear war.

Even if a supervirus or something emerged, a small vault program with 200 individuals in each would barely support humanity for long. Especially considering that these are just shelters unlike Fallout Vaults which are small underground cities. We would need hundreds of Fallout-like Vauts with fully equiped laboratories to ensure that there is the slightest chance of humanity, one day, recovering.

True, but nothing in this world is predictable. Who knows what may happen, years or even decades from now.

Which is why it's wise to always be stocked up on ammo.


The problem with many "vaults" or shelters, is the filtration systems. You have to get fresh air without radiation in it. Same with water.

In a real world nuclear apocalypse, the only enemy we'd find would be the real world "raiders". I highly doubt "" or zombies.

Yeah, they'd be plenty of bandits, highwaymen and looters.

There wouldn't be "mutants" as such, there would however be many mutations, disfigured people/children, and I'm not sure what radiation does to the human/animal brain, but I assume there would be some mental/brian damage from prolonged radiation sickness. (Someone with more knowledge on the subject might be able to clear this up)

The closest thing to a Ghoul would be someone with severe facial radiation burns, so they'd look like a Ghoul, but everything else is fiction.

Overall, a Nuclear Apocalypse, regardless of mutants or whatever, is not something I'd wanna be apart of.

The only mutations there would be, would be children disfigured from development/birth. Radiation would potentially cause cancer of course, but known side effects when using radiation as a treatment to brain cancer is memory loss, confusion, and damaged brain cells. People with severe radiation burns would not live long anyways.

A nuclear apocalypse would be fun Well, not for those people with zero survival skills of course.

Bah! Buzzkill alert!

I was actually basing this on something like "The Road"

The way they're just throwing this out into the open, you'd think they're doing it in preparation for something...

An all-out nuclear war, or alien/zombie invasion is extremely unlikely.

Saw this posted at http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Ausir/Vault-Tec_is_coming_to_life and thought it was rather interesting if not a little scary.



Full article is http://consumerist.com/2010/04/survive-the-apocalypse-in-luxury-for-just-50000.html, along with a pretty awesome picture.

Sorry if this is posted in the wrong place or has already been posted.

That being unlikely, yes. The first part of what you said about the all out nuclear war. Who knows? I know I dont. Scientists in just about every country is almost absoultely able to manufacture nuclear warheads for their countries. The only thing that would allow us to find out, is time. Theres no way to tell now. a decade or so from now, who knows

I think it looks awesome. Must be really boring. Could be a pretty cool social experiment, though. Place, say 100-200 people in one of those shelters for one or two months, but only tell them that they'll be there for a week. Then, air an emergency broadcast inside the vault saying that a pandemic has stricken the world. People die within hours of contracting the virus, and it's highly contagious. No medicine will help.

Whatch the reactions.

Cruel, but interesting.