i have always been intirested in charnoble just so well weird :nuke:

Bert the turtle? Huh. Strangely, back in '06, I saw they were showing it on our tv. Scared the crap outta us, because we thought that a nuclear war was starting.

weird

those were called "shelter in place" drills when I was in high school.

...I don't think I could live very long on saltines...

We didn't do any duck and cover drills when I was in school. Then again, I went to grade school in the middle of nowhere. I did do the high school trainings, though. We called them "Active Shooter" training. I think Las Vegas PD was the first to impliment them, and coin that term. Anyway, different era now, different threats. At least we don't really have to worry about a global nuclear war now. Just theatre.

I remember them. We had them at school and we all went to an underground shelter. The local town had air raid drills on occasion. Believe me your skin crawled when you heard the wail of those things. It was very scary.

I live in 'Tornado Alley' , so I know what the sirens sound like. I can't imagine how I'd feel if they went off for a nuclear attack instead of a storm.

My kindergarten and first primary school was built in front of a barrack, so every weekday when I was little I get a bombardment of bombing siren (during siesta hour) to the point of desensitization. There was also irregular quake drills.

Speaking of a REAL Vault, you guys know that the Kingsway Telephone Exchange (an underground nuclear-proof shelter enough to accommodate 8000 people, with a canteen and pool tables ) is up for sale?

http://io9.com/5065065/buy-an-underground-sanctuary-to-ensure-your-post+apocalyptic-survival

Now we just need 8000 enthusiasts that can pool in 5 million pounds! Who's keen?

wow, for a place that big, that's really not that much money. There are some $10,000,000 houses that I've seen around where I live (Kansas City), that I don't think are worth that much. I mean, sure, they're huge and nice looking, but they couldn't hold 8000 people. Lets see: 5,000,000 / 8000 ... Thats 625 pounds per person.... (checks out online converter)... about $933 USD. I'd pay that for a chunk of a real vault.

For those that want as close to a first hand look at places like Chernobyl, and what being near a nuke blast must be like, I recommend playing Call of Duty 4. be prepared to be shocked if you haven't seen it before. as for the 9/11 attacks, be glad those planes WEREN'T loaded with radioactive material...half of New York would be a ghost town just the thought alone is enough to make you sick.

And with the CoD reference I mean the Aftermath level, and the All Ghillied up and Snipe Zakhaev levels

You can download an extra radio station called "Civil Defense Radio" from Fallout Nexus. It's like a dozen 50's songs about nuclear war, interlaced with authentic civil defense broadcasts from the cold war.

You can even use it on the consoles (I'm on 360) by changing the audio files to .wmas or .mp3s.

It's got some really crazy stuff, especially the broadcasts, which basically consist of things like

"In the event of a nuclear attack, get into the crawlspace under your house and curl up into a ball to (DIE) avoid flying debris. Stay there for 2 weeks."

Bert the turtle is humorous because it's campy and old and naive, but it's not just some wacky cartoon from days past. Younger people need to kinda realize that.

This was serious stuff. Can you imagine if TODAY if "Hot 97" started broadcasting instructions on the radio for how to survive a nuclear attack?! My generation would loose their minds! We'd have riots in the streets!

This was a part of people's daily lives back then! How would you feel if every day on your drive home from work you have to listen to these broadcasts about how some rich old white dudes in washington, whom you've never met, could potentially get you, your wife, your kids, everybody you know vaporized at any minute? And the only thing positive you can draw from it is "Oh, at least there's a civil defense shelter in town!"

People spent a year's salary to install bomb shelters in their backyard, for the love of Bob. You don't do that sort of thing unless you're genuinely terrified. And fear is a horrible thing. The worst emotion a person can endure, in my opinion.

I'm gratefull I've never known the feeling of such helplessness, and the people who have should be respected for not going bat [censored] crazy and storming the whitehouse.


Oh. And yes. I own a geiger counter.

I know what you mean. If I heard that stuff on the radio... I would freak the **** out. my god. Actaully, I'd probably think it was a hoax or something. I remember when I first saw what was happening on 9-11, I was in school and the tv's all turned on showing what had happened. I honestly didn't think it was real for the first minute or so. I thought someone had snuck in some cheesy 80's action movie or something. These days, we just don't really expect terrible things to happen... I don't at least.

I tend to doubt the accuracy of video games.

My town is downwind from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Point_Energy_Center. We're out of the blast radius, but the Fallout* would still get us. :tops:

One of my history teachers told us on how she was looking for a new home and checked out one across the river from Indian Point (though that was subtly left out of the advertisemant and she hadn't realized until her and her husband came to check out the house). She told us that you could hear the power plant humming...always humming...must be creepy as hell.

I feel bad for whoever DID buy that house.

yeah... I don't live very far away from http://www.whiteman.af.mil/. (I'm in KC). That place would probably be hit..... :sadvaultboy:

I'll check that out.

bi-weekly bump? (I don't want this info to be lost)

why not just watch "The Day After" (the nuke clips are on youtube), and "Threads", that gives a good depiction of a nuclear war and the aftermath, realistically.

lol at all of the nuclear paranoia

Well, those are some neat shelter-pics. I don't remember Bert the Turtle, or even ads for shelters and equipment, but I do remember doing duck-and-cover drills in elementary school in Pennsylvania. Even as a child, I wondered how much protection my little desk was going to be if The Bomb went off neaby.

This thread is very interesting, I never knew fallout shelters were taken that seriously

Haha awesome

My nan actually has an unexploded bomb of sorts in her garden. My grandad and her managed to bury it during the 2nd world war, I dont think it's too dangerous a bomb. They also showed me a few fallout shelters that they'd kept by as children.

I still prefer Vault boy to Bert though XD

Well, canada seem's to have some stuff to..
http://books.google.se/books?id=GR7qkRGZizQC&pg=PA6&lpg=PA6&dq=Accidental+Nuclear+War&source=bl&ots=cqHBGkxmT6&sig=xJTROOdzK2_dV9fIiOeSnhBcSwg&hl=sv&ei=Q6q2SYfaHNvT-QaE8dj5Cg&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=5&ct=result#PPA96,M1

<~~ dates back to the time when we had 'duck and cover' commercials on TV and the drills in elementary school.

I even remember a point where kids would talk about people in the neighborhood building shelters. It was all on the QT though. Knew a kid who got in trouble for bragging about it. A couple days later he is denying such thing. Seems parents who built them didn't want all their neighbors knowing about it. I mean hey. You have the foresight to build and stock a shelter for your family the last thing you want is the neighbors showing up at the last minute wanting to get in.

Zipping to the present or more recent past. Worked downtown DC on a construction sight about 10 years back. Took a short cut through this old garage, commercial garage not residential. Came across this fenced in section in a corner with the old Yellow black Fall out shelter radiation sign and cans of water and crackers that had been there since the 60's. What a riot. Wish I could remember exactly where it was so I could go get a picture or even try and break in and snag some of the stuff.

Probably gone now anyway.

But I do remember just standing there looking at it thinking. My God.

I sure am going to build a fallout shelter myself! I mean, I will have to spend a big amount of money for food and water, but atleast I will survive. And my family will then scavenge around the village when I will become a ghoul. Anyone knows where I can buy a radiation suit and a Geiger counter?

Holy Frijoles! That leftover bomb from The Blitz could still be very much alive. You should tell the authorities it's there so they can send in a disposal team. The older that bomb gets, the more unstable it will be. Even just jarring it in that corroded state could set it off..