REAL vault stuff from Cold War era

Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:09 am

I think it's less possible now with the whole Mutually Assured Destruction think. Back in the day, people didn't know what would happen.... now they do.

True perhaps... less possible, but not totally. It only takes one madman to say "to hell with all of this" and push a button.

The first post (thanks btw) made me realize that even trough violent mature rated games, you can find a reason to learn more about history. Which is, in my eyes, pretty cool.
Which reminds me, to search for some sites about Hiroshima and B-52 and such...

Oh, and I heard of the "duck and cover" stuff before... as a sample in some industrial techno song. I thought it fitted so well, I wondered where it came from and started searching.
I don't think it ever catched on here. Or maybe we experience the Cold War stuff in some other way, I do not know. (Should search about it)
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:12 am

Lots of Cool 50's, 60's and 70's Cold War memorabilia, I even bought myself a replica Handbook that was issued in 1963 about securing your house
from a nuclear blast.....and how to survive the aftermath....apparently Nuclear Fallout only lasts for a few days??


It even continued into the '80's. I wasn't around during the 50's and '60s, but was in the British armed forces during the '80's, and, man, it was enough to make you paranoid that it was all really going to happen. All the endless NBC training, the lessons on the effects of nuclear blasts that they drilled into your head, the long base and field exercies that you spent most of your time living and working in an NBC suit and gas-mask. The charcoal lined suits, the little bottles of fullers earth and the constant 'blot, bang, rub' never convinced you that you'd last more than a little while if you got caught out in the open, and that was probably pretty much the case. Thank god those days are over (hopefully).

Here's an '80's British armed forces poster that sums up the mood:

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/shootist66/survivetofight.jpg
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:25 pm

Actually, the likelihood of nuclear was has not decreased at all... Sure, tension between the super powers have relaxed somewhat, but, it won't BE one of the super powers that STARTS the war. Keep in mind that there are MANY countries with Nuclear arms, and not all of them are precisely "stable".....

So a search on Israels "sampson" option. And be scared.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:11 am

just think of the tension between russia and there former soviet republic's or between india and pakistan
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:17 am

just think of the tension between russia and there former soviet republic's or between india and pakistan


Both of whom have tested nuclear weapons.......

But this is starting to wander into things political.... Can't go there.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:02 am

Actually, the likelihood of nuclear was has not decreased at all... Sure, tension between the super powers have relaxed somewhat, but, it won't BE one of the super powers that STARTS the war. Keep in mind that there are MANY countries with Nuclear arms, and not all of them are precisely "stable".....


I don't know about that. We havn't been anywhere near as close to total nuclear armaggedon as we were during events like the cuban missile crisis, or the large-scale NATO and Warsaw pact exercises in the 1980's that were designed to intimidate the enemy. I mean, we don't tend to see Soviet bombers penetrating UK airspace or nuclear subs and spy-boats prowling off our shores like we did on a constant basis back then. Sure, there's still a threat today, but it isn't on the same scale or at the same very real tension level.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:33 pm

Both of whom have tested nuclear weapons.......

But this is starting to wander into things political.... Can't go there.


yeah i leave it by that ...
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:49 am

But this is starting to wander into things political.... Can't go there.


Woops. Fair enough.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:42 am

Woops. Fair enough.


Thanks folks.

I am rather enjoying this thread.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:44 pm

wait... are you talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC8UUNt0fiU&feature=related? I remember finding this video online a couple years ago.... it's amazing.


YES!!! That's the one!
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:10 am

It even continued into the '80's. I wasn't around during the 50's and '60s, but was in the British armed forces during the '80's, and, man, it was enough to make you paranoid that it was all really going to happen. All the endless NBC training, the lessons on the effects of nuclear blasts that they drilled into your head, the long base and field exercies that you spent most of your time living and working in an NBC suit and gas-mask. The charcoal lined suits, the little bottles of fullers earth and the constant 'blot, bang, rub' never convinced you that you'd last more than a little while if you got caught out in the open, and that was probably pretty much the case. Thank god those days are over (hopefully).

Here's an '80's British armed forces poster that sums up the mood:

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/shootist66/survivetofight.jpg


wow... compare that poster to Bert the Turtle.... completely different. The US and UK handled this completely different.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:36 am

I grew up in the late 70's, early 80's timeframe, which the threat was there(played Red Storm Rising and Harpoon on PC, that sort of thing), but I didn't really get weirded out until after it was over and I was in high school and wanted to do a report on the Cold War. You see, my dad was a Lt. Col. in Air Force Intel and was stationed in Turkey in the late 50's through 68....

The little he could tell me really hit it home how close we really came....several times, not just with the Cuban Crisis.

Glad that part is over, but still kind of concerned about all the nukes still out there. Kind of unecessary, considering the precision weapons and MOAB type weapons. I'll leave it at that since I don't want to turn it political...
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:56 am

I grew up in the late 70's, early 80's timeframe, which the threat was there(played Red Storm Rising and Harpoon on PC, that sort of thing), but I didn't really get weirded out until after it was over and I was in high school and wanted to do a report on the Cold War. You see, my dad was a Lt. Col. in Air Force Intel and was stationed in Turkey in the late 50's through 68....

The little he could tell me really hit it home how close we really came....several times, not just with the Cuban Crisis.

Glad that part is over, but still kind of concerned about all the nukes still out there. Kind of unecessary, considering the precision weapons and MOAB type weapons. I'll leave it at that since I don't want to turn it political...


And then there are the times when a simple computer glitch made the powers-that-be believe there was an incoming attack. Failure of a 39 cent part caused us to launch our nuclear loaded bombers. (this is something that NEVER happens. One bomber, sure, when sending them somewhere on temporary duty, or, moving weapons around, but, NEVER all of them at once. (and certainly not in such a hurry.) I figgered we was all dead. (I was stationed at a SAC base at the time. (strategic air command))

Try doing a google search on "Accidental Nuclear War", and prepared to be scared out of your socks.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:40 pm

And then there are the times when a simple computer glitch made the powers-that-be believe there was an incoming attack. Failure of a 39 cent part caused us to launch our nuclear loaded bombers. (this is something that NEVER happens. One bomber, sure, when sending them somewhere on temporary duty, or, moving weapons around, but, NEVER all of them at once. (and certainly not in such a hurry.) I figgered we was all dead. (I was stationed at a SAC base at the time. (strategic air command))

Try doing a google search on "Accidental Nuclear War", and prepared to be scared out of your socks.


like the movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/?
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:23 am

like the movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086567/?


Something akin to that. But, there is no AI controlling everything. Just guys watching screens, and believing what the computers are telling them, if the computers feed the erroneous information, that make bad decisions..... and potentially, millions of people could pay the price for that.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:20 am

So a search on Israels "sampson" option. And be scared.


Pshaw...

There are more important things to do with a life than spend it worrying about the "could be's"

It's a lot more likely that I'll get killed in a car crash on the way home than someone will launch a nuke at me. And quite frankly, I don't care about either. I've got more friends on the other side than I do here...
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:44 am

try looking at some of the duck and covwer material and then this page http://science.howstuffworks.com/nuclear-bomb.htm makes the old duck and cover rubbish look as daft as it realy was
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:49 pm

apparently during the Cold War, they had http://sporkinthedrawer.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/bert_the_turtle_1.jpg instead of the Vault Boy. I don't know which I prefer... http://collectingtokens.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/bert2.png is pretty funny.


yeah thats the duck and cover guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0K_LZDXp0I
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:08 pm

try looking at some of the duck and covwer material and then this page http://science.howstuffworks.com/nuclear-bomb.htm makes the old duck and cover rubbish look as daft as it realy was


An episode of Southpark even showed how ridiculous the Duck and Cover idea was.

They taught everyone to Duck and Cover, in case of a Volcano.
Of course people did, you see the Lava flow over them, and then just Skeletons....
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:16 am

An episode of Southpark even showed how ridiculous the Duck and Cover idea was.

They taught everyone to Duck and Cover, in case of a Volcano.
Of course people did, you see the Lava flow over them, and then just Skeletons....


ha! I must have missed that episode.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:45 pm

ha! I must have missed that episode.


It was an old episode from season one or two, the one with Scuzzlebutt in it.

found this:
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/sites/k/kingsway/index.html

while I was looking for this:
http://www.24dash.com/news/communities/2008-10-15-For-sale-Secret-network-of-tunnels-100ft-under-London

Saw the second posted a while back on this forum but thought I'd share it again. Interesting thing about that first bunker link is it is said to accomadate between 8,000 and 9,600 people, whereas most of the Civil Defense bunkers I read about from some of those link you guys posted were only going to hold like 300-500 people. But it kind of makes sense if you look at the situations, CD bunkers were for a percievable threat of nukes being launch, where when they built these bunkers in the UK, Germany was bombing the sh!t out of them.

Wish I had that much money to blow, be a very interesting place to live, wouldn't have to worry about noisy neighboors either (unless there some kind of superior mole-man race that lives under England)
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:48 pm

I was waiting to go to one of my classes today at Northwest Missouri State University... when I noticed this display case in the hallway right outside the class. It's been there all year... I just never looked inside it... what I found could not be any cooler... just check out these pictures I took (compiled into a collage).

------>http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6743/realfalloutkt5.png<------

sorry for the picture quality, they were taken with my phone. I really wasn't expecting to see this stuff. Apparently vaults were nearly a reality... I love how the caption on the LIFE magazine says "New facts you must know about Fallout"...

There's also a picture of some survival comic book.

Those machines are Geiger counters.

Just thought this stuff was cool and thought I'd share it with everyone.


Shoot I love this picture! :D This comic book is really the same one wich you can find in D.C :D
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 4:22 pm

It was an old episode from season one or two, the one with Scuzzlebutt in it.

found this:
http://www.subbrit.org.uk/rsg/sites/k/kingsway/index.html

while I was looking for this:
http://www.24dash.com/news/communities/2008-10-15-For-sale-Secret-network-of-tunnels-100ft-under-London


wow, what a huge difference.
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:58 pm

yeah thats the duck and cover guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0K_LZDXp0I


I can't even stop watching this short movie. Fallout is a brilliant description what the world could be after atomic bomb attack. He is not a typical description of some kind of SF world. He have lots of "real" things that we can for example watching now (like You added movies, comic books or typical typical things that ppl used in that time).
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Post » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:33 pm

wait... are you talking about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC8UUNt0fiU&feature=related? I remember finding this video online a couple years ago.... it's amazing. Also, it's the name of a band (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Bungle) that my friend showed me a few years ago. Apparently there's some connection between Faith No More and Mr. Bungle (the band)... like some members were the same or something...

My jaw dropped when I watched that video. It has the exact same music as some of the viral ads for FO3.
(compare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7jKRDTg8m8 )

This is a really cool thread!
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