http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1348049-real-world-guns-youd-like-to-see-in-future-fallouts-pt2/

Alright, so what are weapons from the real world, you'd like to see in coming Fallouts? Wether swords, guns, etc. it doesn't matter as along as they're a real world weapon. No laser, plasma, or fictional weapons on this thread.

The M2. Unique would be called "The Screaming Eagle".
MG-42. Unique would be called "The Buzzsaw".
An XM8 is needed because its a sixy gun.
and for kicks either a L.A.A.W. or a Panzerfaust.

The XM8. Incredibly light, detachable grenade launcher, scope and laser pointer, can turn into a light machine gun, sniper rifle or carbine, easy to fix and almost never jams. Beautiful.

To be honest. Some copying and pasting of MW and BF weapons; amazing and fun weapons.

I disagree. Avoid MW/BF at all cost. You want MW/BF, then there are those games.

A Remmington 700/M40 rifle would be cool.

And also what kind of model revolvers are the .44 and .357 in New Vegas?

They should also add http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2009/12/04/the-mcbros-95-caliber-rifle/ just cause. There could be only 10 (if that) in the entire game and you can only get the gun towards the end of the game. It would have incredibly high damage.

Ah let's avoid MW and BF at all costs. So we should remove aiming down sights, it being a first person shooter, modern weapons such as F2000. Fallout also shouldn't have a possible sprint function either.

MW and BF are extremely successful FPS. While Fallout is an RPG, it has also progressed to being a FPS. As such good FPS mechanics should also be involved. Like actually aiming down the sights.

MW and BF also happen to contain a very large assortment of very common military weapons, which in a post-apocalypic society where survival can rely on effective and powerful guns, is most likely wanted. When I said copy and paste, I meant use good common, modern military weapons.

Ah yes, and I do want MW/BF which is why I had bought them. As well as TES, Halo, Assassins Creed, GTA, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Farcry.. The list goes on. My point being if something is in one game then, while that is certainly a different game, it shouldn't be avoided. Fallout has other games mechanics too.

The .44 Magnum is modeled after the Smith and Wesson Model 29 revolver, and the .357 Magnum is modeled after the Colt Single Action Army

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I want a Desert Eagle mark XIX (pre-picatinny), .44 Magnum standard and black; .50 Unique in pristine polished chrome!

Colt Python, Smith an Wesson M500

Don't straw man. CoD/BF weren't the first games to have the player aim down the sights, nor sprint. That has nothing at all to do with adding things like the F2000, and other guns that just don't fit in with Fallout and it's post-apocalyptic atmosphere.


Have you played New Vegas? Iron sights are incorporated. So it sprinting. Again, that has nothing to do with it. Plenty of games have incorporated aiming down iron sights and sprinting. That's not something newly thought up by the CoD or BF creators.


And yet there are even more weapons from the past (1930s-1970s/80s), that fit Fallout's post-apocalyptic setting better than any modern weapon does. CoD and BF's selection in weapons is rather small compared to what could be incorporated by looking at abstract and forgotten weapons of the decades I said. Add in the ones that were used during those years, and you have even more selection. Adding an M4 with simple modifications of scopes, lights, lasers, etc. isn't selection. The weapon isn't anything more than still being an M4.


Just because it has the mechanics, doesn't mean it should coalesce and become a CoD/BF/Fallout hybrid. That would be the worst. Assassin's Creed, GTA, Mass Effect, etc. are all good games because they're different and stay different from each other. Trying to put them all together would be a bad movie.

Again a post-apocalyptic wasteland in which powerful, effective, reliable and common weapons are needed... Not to mention the Brotherhood used to produce weapons and sell them, the Gun Runners and many other caravans have taken up creating weapons. I'm fairly certain good weapons like the F2000, Scar-H, P90??? I mean seriously, the older Fallouts had more modern and a fairly large variety of weapons.

If you want games like BF and MW as far away from Fallout like you had mentioned, then yes that would basically involve Fallout going back to the old way, no more FPS and what not.

Don't knock away progression like great mechanics because you don't like games like MW and BF. As for the playing NV? Yeah I have every achievement and have played through every Fallout aside from Tactics atleast 10 times. Sprinting wasn't in NV by the way, and ADS was newly added to Fallout, the comment was more towards the fact that you would like to avoid MW/BF at all costs.

There are plenty of powerful, effective, and reliable weapons in the past. It's not like suddenly the 21st Century came around and the militaries of the world had the light bulb go off, and suddenly they started making powerful, effective, and reliable weapons. There are plenty of interesting and cool weapons made in the last century, that would fit perfectly in Fallout's atmosphere. Much better than a F2000, XM8, or other weapons like those. And the BoS never produced weapons or sold them, I would think you'd know that after having played the games at least 10 times. The Enclave produced weapons, but never sold them either.

And again you're confusing CoD/BF, with simply FPS gameplay. CoD/BF do not embody the entirety of FPS. FPS gameplay did not come out when CoD/BF did, it wasn't something revolutionary when either of those came out. They were just another title within the FPS gameplay style. The newer Fallout's are just another game title falling into the FPS gameplay style, which hopefully they stay on the cusp, rather than dive right in. Fallout is an RPG, it shouldn't detract from the RPG elements, to cater to FPS kiddies. And that doesn't automatically mean they take from CoD/BF. Just because those are probably the only FPS games you focus on, doesn't make them all there is in FPS games. Fallout, if they want, can continue with the FPS path of having it the way players view things, it doesn't really make a difference to me.

And I never said I didn't like CoD/BF, again you're straw manning your arguments. I don't have a problem with either. I don't play CoD, but from time to time I do play BF3. It's fun, but that doesn't mean Fallout and BF3 have to coalesce like I said, and become one big game, that'd be stupid. Fallout shouldn't be BF3/CoD in a retro-50s alternate post-apocalyptic universe. And yes there actually was sprinting in NV. It wasn't like Skyrim or something, but sprinting was there, it's basically all the character did. One had to actually hold back on the game pad toggle, or keyboard key, to actually walk the character. The rest of it was running.

Weapons development did not stop in the 1950's. I really don't get the argument of a gun not fitting with the atmosphere.
Its a stupid argument to me.

I thought we were the kind who did NOT base our opinions on aesthetics.

It's like this. If you played Red Dead Redemption, which is a game set in a Western atmosphere, would you want (outside of the Western guns,) things like an M16 in it? No, it wouldn't look right, it wouldn't feel right for a Western game.

You have to really think on what guns fit the atmosphere for a post-apocalyptic society in a retro-50s state. An M16 can, an M60 combined with an M249 SAW, can. But guns like a F2000, just don't. It's not necessarily about aesthetics, but also does it make sense to fit in with all the other guns in the game? If there was a post-apocalyptic game set after the fall of some sci-fi world that's like Star Trek or something like that, then yeah, a F2000 would fit in and nobody would think anything of it. But a game with restro-50s aesthetics (hair styles, clothes, etc.) things like the F2000 don't fit. Simple as that.

Have you played Fallout 1? The BoS had manufactured weapons and had sold them to places such as the Hub in order to buy things like food to survive. Guess you never payed too much attention to the games then huh? You would have seen more modern weapons being used in the originals, rather than one generic assault rifle.

Newer weapons are made to replace the older ones are they not? They're meant to be better suited for combat and what not? I don't mind if older weapons are used either, but seriously more modern weapons would fit just as well if not better. Saying modern weapons don't fit in with a fallout post-apocalyptic is no argument, especially since they are used in previous Fallouts and the fact that the game uses weapons beyond our current weaponry.

I'm not saying there can't be more than just generic assault rifles, but putting something like an M4 in and slapping on modifications, doesn't make for a "new" assault rifle, from what it was before. It's the same thing, just with some modifications. Things like the M50 Reising, would be something to add new into the game. Even something like the M14's original prototype design would be something new since it doesn't have much resemblance to the final M14 design.


That's not much of an argument at all. In the Fallout Universe laser and plasma weapons were becoming the replacements for things like the R91 assault rifle, and others before the Great War. Things like the F2000 would probably have never been considered or thought of, considering the whole mindset in weapon's technology was moving to laser and plasma. And just because we have it in our universe, doesn't make it so in the Fallout Universe. The two are not paralleled with each other.


It wasn't until Tactics, that guns like the P90, and the like came around. In FO1-2, there was no guns like that in there. Tactics was a cluster of screw up and decent things, all mixed in. It was like mixing lies with truths. And like I said before, in RDR how would you feel if out of all those Western Guns, you suddenly had an M16 added into the mix? You'd probably be wondering why they did that. Adding in a gun like the F2000, would be the same way for Fallout. It's place is better looked to in something like Halo, or some type of game like that where it's sci-fi in that nature. Post-apocalyptic sci-fi, it has no place.

Anyway, I think we've derailed my thread long enough with this. Let's get back to what it's meant to be, and suggest other weapons we'd like to see.

sks (chinese variant for canon reasons), cz 858

Double barrel flaregun, Colt Peacemaker, Bring back the tommy gun from Honest Hearts, M1 Garand to replace the Hunting Rifle, Zip-guns.... they may be home made but they are real world guns ... Bluderbuss.....

I'm not even sure where you were trying to go with this..

And yet the military had used ballistic weapons still, more so than energy weapons which were completely rare. The merchants and gun manufacturers would most likely create more modern weapons.

When I played Fallout 2 for maybe the 12th time a few weeks ago, I was able to purchase the p90, g11e, etc. http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_2_weapons