Realistic Fatigue Problem : IV

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:34 am

I feel pretty bad for posting so many support threads lately. I usually try to figure things out myself using Google, searching forums, ect. But I can't find the solution on my own to this specific issue, and if anyone could help that would be great.

Basically I am having trouble with Realistic Fatigue and getting it to initialize properly in my game. I looked at the console and found that "Realistic Fatigue.ini" was, in fact, recognized by the game- but none of it's functions are actually applied at all. Basically, the mod is useless: no fatigue drain whatsoever no matter how much I run, jump, and swing my weapon around.

I am baffled at the fact that apparently Realistic Fatigue IS recognized but none of it's functions are actually applied to my game.

Is there a way to 'force' the game to apply Realistic Fatigue, such as some sort of console command or startquest function of some sort? I looked in the readme but I didn't find anything other than the "startquest aaRFrepair" which did not work, because there was no fatigue drain detected. But the function WAS recognized.

Also note that it was manually installed instead of using any OMODs.

My load order is sorted with BOSS. I am having issues with my Bashed Patch though, and that's a whole 'nother story entirely. (I am purposely loading it after a few other mods.) But f it helps, here is my load order.

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  EnhancedWeather.esm  [Version 1.4.4]02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  Qarls_Harvest.esm05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esm  [Version 0.9.9b3]08  Better Cities Resources.esm  [Version 4.8.4]09  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0A  Bab.esm  [Version FINAL]**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0B  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.0]0C  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]0D  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0E  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0F  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]10  Better Cities .esp11  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp12  EnhancedWeather.esp  [Version 1.4.4]++  EnhancedWeather - Darker Nights, 50.esp  [Version Final]13  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.1]14  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  Symphony of Violence.esp15  PCSoundValygar.esp  [Version 2.6]16  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.1]17  300_Lore_Dialogue_Updated.esp18  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp19  ImprovedSigns.esp1A  Oblivion Cats v0.2b.esp1B  personality_idles4.esp1C  PTFallingStars.esp1D  Q - More and Moldy Ingredients v1.1.esp1E  Qarls_Harvest.esp1F  Update My Statue.esp  [Version 1.30]20  VAs Better Gold with no Menu Icon.esp21  Living Economy.esp22  Living Economy - Items.esp23  Forward Motion Blur.esp24  Get Wet.esp25  Musical Immersion 1.0.esp26  P1DlookHereYou.esp27  Streamline 3.1.esp++  Bab.esp  [Version RC1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp28  CapesandCloaks.esp29  RavenWearClothing.esp  [Version 1.5]2A  vermillionandsilverthorn.esp**  Slof's Horses Base.esp**  Slof's Extra Horses.esp2B  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]2C  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]++  Cobl Tweaks.esp  [Version 1.44]2D  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]2E  OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]2F  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO.esp  [Version 0.9.9b5]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp30  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b1]31  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3]32  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b1]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Undead Rise.esp  [Version 3.7b3]33  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3]34  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3]35  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Friendlier Factions OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3]36  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp37  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3]38  BabShop.esp39  BABFinal_AdventuressWaresShop.esp3A  BHC_Expanded.esp  [Version 1.2]3B  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]3C  Villages1.1.esp3D  Knights.esp++  KnightsBabFemaleArmors.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod for OOO - Knights .esp  [Version 3.7b3]3E  AFK_Weye.esp  [Version 2.2.COBL]3F  Shadowcrest_Vineyard_COBL.esp40  road+bridges.esp  [Version 4.5.9]41  Feldscar.esp  [Version 1.0.5]42  Vergayun.esp  [Version 1.0.6]43  Faregyl.esp  [Version 1.0.10]44  PTMudwater.esp45  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]46  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]47  xulTheHeath.esp48  XulEntiusGorge.esp49  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]4A  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]4B  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]4C  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]4D  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]4E  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.1]4F  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]50  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]51  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]52  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]53  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]54  xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp  [Version 1.3.2]55  xulPantherRiver.esp56  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]57  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1]58  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.6]59  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.0]5A  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]5B  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]5C  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.1]5D  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]5E  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]5F  CoverYourself.esp60  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.2]61  CT-YABM.esp62  kuerteeInventoryIsABackpack.esp63  ReneersTrainingMod.esp64  Salmo the Baker, Cobl.esp  [Version 3.08]65  talkwithyourhands PI4.esp66  LCE-addon.esp67  Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp68  RealisticFatigue.esp69  RealisticMagicForceMedium.esp6A  RealisticMagicForceHigh.esp6B  RealSleep.esp6C  RenGuardOverhaul.esp6D  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]6E  Denock Arrows.esp6F  nGCD.esp++  OOO-Level_Slow.esp  [Version 1.33]70  immersive_caves_auto.esp71  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 3.0]72  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]73  Diverse Voices.esp  [Version 0.1a]++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]74  Bashed Patch, 0.esp75  Better Cities Full.esp  [Version 4.8.4]76  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp  [Version 4.8.4]77  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp  [Version 4.8.1]78  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp  [Version 4.8.1]79  Better Imperial City.esp  [Version 4.8.4]7A  Better Cities - COBL.esp  [Version 2.1]7B  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Imperial Isle.esp  [Version 4.8.1]7C  Really Immersive Messages.esp7D  OOO-Respawn_Week.esp  [Version 1.33]7E  Visual Enchantments v1.0.esp7F  Real Hunger, Cobl.esp  [Version 1.6.1]80  NRB4 Standard Road Record.esp81  kaikurotest2.esp82  ShezriesTowns1pt1.esp

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:50 pm

I feel pretty bad for posting so many support threads lately. I usually try to figure things out myself using Google, searching forums, ect. But I can't find the solution on my own to this specific issue, and if anyone could help that would be great.

Basically I am having trouble with Realistic Fatigue and getting it to initialize properly in my game. I looked at the console and found that "Realistic Fatigue.ini" was, in fact, recognized by the game- but none of it's functions are actually applied at all. Basically, the mod is useless: no fatigue drain whatsoever no matter how much I run, jump, and swing my weapon around.

I am baffled at the fact that apparently Realistic Fatigue IS recognized but none of it's functions are actually applied to my game.

RF requires OBSE, e.g. that it's installed and that you launch the game via its loader. Best to start there as you don't mention OBSE. Also, check that you have RealisticFatigue.ini in the Data folder.

Also, while I'm at it (not connected to this issue):

05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33] - Update to 1.34 Beta 5. MMM 3.7b3p3 requires it.

0C UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp [Version 1.0.0] - Use tha Bashed Patch tweak instead.
0D Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp - Skip.

2D Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33] - As above.

++ OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp [Version 1.33] - Skip. Not needed.

31 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3] - Skip. Don't use with OOO.

37 Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3] - http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1116296-relz-martsmonstermod37b3-public-release-3-relz/page__view__findpost__p__16393704.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:40 pm

Yes, I am using OBSE, the latest stable build, and launching the game using the OBSE launcher. I thought that would be a no-brainer. Is there something wrong with how I installed OBSE though? I'll go double-check and see if all the files are present where they should be...

Yes, the INI is in fact in my Data folder- that's how the game recognized it in the first place, methinks.

Thank you for catching those mistakes in my load order. I will fix those now.

EDIT: Yup, OBSE is definitely installed properly. Another mod which uses OBSE functions that I have running (Put it in it's place) is running just fine. And I double-checked to make sure everything was there in the Oblivion directory. And, I always launch using OBSE launcher.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:45 pm

Well, I'll ask the obvious question; did you configure the ini?

As per the ReadMe: If you really must install this without using OBMM then you will have to edit the RealisticFatigue.ini file and replace all the tags with values, otherwise this mod will not work correctly.

Also some notes regarding your load order.

- Remove Enhanced Weather, it's incorporated in Weather-All Natural.
- Re-sort your load order with BOSS. There's no reason for all those Better Cities mods to be after your Bashed Patch.
- You have Let The People Drink, New Roads and Bridges and UL-Imperial Isle. You'll need the http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20218 found here.
- You'll probably need a bunch of the http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=13834.
- Also, I'm not 100% sure, but are nGCD and Progress compatible?

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:22 pm

Ah, yes, I did make some modifications to the INI, but perhaps I missed a few essential components... Thank you for the heads up. I will go over it again and make sure I didn't miss anything- I have a feeling this is probably my issue. Thanks.

As I mentioned I am purposely loading my Bashed Patch after some mods. This is due to some very strange errors I am getting in regards to rebuilding my patch. It's difficult to explain and rather odd.

Thanks for the heads up about the compatibility patches there, I forgot I missed those.

Yes, nGCD and Progress are compatible, as far as I know. I seem to remember reading that they were.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:10 pm

Yes, nGCD and Progress are compatible. Sorry for the "no brainer", but you'd be surprised so always a good idea to be as detailed as possible. Not much help otherwise, though, as my "no brainer" tips have been covered.

» Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:28 pm

Oh, it's fine- I sometimes miss or forget 'no brainer' steps so it's always good to be prepared- I just felt I should mention that so that you'd understand why I didn't initially explain why I didn't mention OBSE in my original post. I have missed a few no-brainer things before, so it's always nice to have all your bases covered.

Also, I believe it was in fact my ini settings that were causing the program. When I follow instructions I tend to follow it explicitally, word for word, and when the Realistic Fatigue readme said to replace tags with values, I thought it literally meant tags when in reality... it was just a generic term to describe multiple different settings. :facepalm: Double-checking my INI led me to find the most-likely problematic settings. I will launch the game and see if it fixes it.

Thanks, you two.

I think it'll work now.