The problem is that nothing about my hunger comes up in my active effects menu of the magic folder at first i thought it might of been skyui but i checked the mcm an its all fine an i get the rumbling stomach but no messages either about been tired or hungry an it seem i cant get drunk even though ive turned it on.

also i cant refill my bottles again ive got the correct patches for pure waters an their in the correct load order according to nmm i will state that i dont use boss so their placed in just by nmm an then i move the files which need to be moved so they dont conflict.

Yet im still not getting anything so i know ive done something i just dont know if ive got everything in the right order compared to the other mods i use.

NMM doesn't arrange your mods in the correct load order - you need to use BOSS for that.

Go and grab BOSS from http://code.google.com/p/better-oblivion-sorting-software/downloads/detail?name=BOSS%20v2.1.1%20Installer.exe&can=2&q= then run BOSS and see if that helps.

RND works fine for me (albeit with the splash soft conflict with WATER).

i can always try boss but from what gopher said it does also have problems but hell if i start having probs ill just uninstall