Am I the only one who is actually enjoying this game?

I mean no offense to Bethesda while the F3 game engine is pretty solid (in spite of the reams of bugs with F3) the storyline and writing and voice acting svckED. In FNV it seems to be a massive improvement in that sense.
The storyline and quests I have encountered so far have been very well written and worked/went off as planned/supposed.

Okay it has bugs but I have encountered far less bugs that I found in the 1.0 version of Fallout 3 so far and only one of them are potentially serious (getting stuck/falling through the world bugs). I havent encountered any bugs with the new features as yet; and I feel the game is significantly more balanced than Fallout 3 was at launch/is now without mods. All I need to do is point at our dear modding mainstay Arwen and her mod for F3 and the same mod she has done for for NV. There is significantly less changes/work in the NV version of her Tweaks mod than in the F3 version and I feel that a good part of this is there is less crap requiring sorted out in NV than there was in F3.

A lot of people seem to have expected a totally perfect game here and I think this is a bit of an unrealistic expectation. I mean firstly we are talking about the Bethesda version of the Havok engine which has a great deal of bugs on its own before its even been handed to Obsidian. And then on top of that we have the changes to it Obsidian have made. Of COURSE its going to have bugs.
Secondly we have the fact that Obsidians reputation for releasing buggy on release games is almost as bad as Bethesda's own (as a development studio) but fortunately we can all rest easy in the knowledge that Obsidian actually has a good reputation for SUPPORTING their games and patching out the bugs (unlike Bethesda). I mean they have KotOR 2 which was a mess on release (cos they got it forced out by Lucasarts before it was ready) and they supported it as much as they were allowed (LucasArts nixed a content patch to finish the game); they moved on and did NWN 2 which was also a buggy mess on release but fortunately they were allowed the time and money to actually fix it and now its widely considered one of the better RPGs of recent times.

I dont understand where a lot of the vitriol is coming from. Were it Bethesda themselves I could maybe understand, but with Obsidian I cant help but feel its unfair and jumping the gun just a little.

The only dissapointment I have with F:NV is the fact that it looks just as Bad as Fallout 3. Which I dont get. The graphics in Fallout 3 looked dated in 2008 when it was released (fortunately mods fixed the worst of it) it looks even shabbier now. How couldnt they update the graphics? I mean seriously what were they doing the past 2 years?

Thats my only big gripe wi the game so far.

Love the game. It's superior to Fallout 3 in every way that matters, and much closer to the feel of Fallout 1 and 2.

Graphics mean very little to me, so I can't really comment. They work, though.

I love the game so far.. im about 13 hours into it and i'm already thinking of my next character and how to tweak stats and such. The only glitch i've run into so far is bugs dropped into the flour near mountains which is a free kill for me and some frame drops for a couple of seconds every now and then (Xbox 360) which isn't game breaking cuz a lot of games have glitches, especially on the first 3-4 months of release. I agree that people have unrealistic expectations, but those expectations is what drives game developers to come up with better sh1t.

Graphics? I guess im the only person in the whole world that could live without HD+++ realistic graphics, i still play super mario on the super nintendo and i love it. To me it's about gameplay and story, graphics is just a bonus. Plus, i would assume if they upgraded the graphics it would be a two disk thing like final fantasy and super super lag issues cuz we all know... obsidian isn't the greatest coders in the world.. or in a country at that lol.

No. This game has gripped me a lot more than FO3 ever did. It is rougher around the edges and I like it that way. I've never played the first two Fallouts btw.




It is launch week. That is usually when the trolls come out. Official forums are always flame territory really.

I am loving this game. I find it to be far superior to Fallout in every way, and I like how a lot of Fallout 1/2 elements are back.

I am absolutely infatuated with this game. :fallout:

Much better than Fallout 3 in every way conceivable and, dare I say, almost rivals the originals in story and various other aspects.

This, despite the way it plays, is a true Fallout game in my eyes.

Only hate I see is from PC community of tech issues with Steam an or bugs that are on all platforms

But besides that everyone is still playing and enjoying the game for the most part

Thats probably because a good few members of Obsidian are formerly Black Isle Studios, the F1/2 creators. So I am totally not surprised at the fact that its got a good storyline, well written quests, and a deep immerssive world. What I am loving is you are allowed to swing whichever way you like too. Woo.
The tongue in cheek humour is back, the universality of it the writing and dialogue. The lack of blatant sixism, and homophobia except in a ha ha sort of way. Brilliant.

I breathed a sigh of relief there guys.

From all the hater posts I was beginning to think that this game was being universally hated and I was its one lonely fan lol.

This isnt Civ 5 people! Its not over hyped, stripped down to "no duh?" gameplay, and buggy to distraction! LOL.

I love the game. I haven't had any problems with mine on 360. I'm over 30 hours in!

I'm loving this game. The role play opportunities alone blow #3 out of the water. I'm a little sad a lot of people simply can't handle anything other than powergamingwhen playing thanks to Bethesda's binary and patronising writing, dialogue and questing in Oblivion and Fallout 3, but hey, that's RPGs these days.

I agree completely. Oblivion was the first major culprit, in my eyes. It ended up breeding an entire generation of gamers who believe that it was the absolute best an RPG could offer.

Now now Oblivion wasnt completely awful story wise.

Morrowind had a great story. With a rich lore, background, and extensive dialogue and many many many quests. But unfortunately wasnt the best game gameplay wise; the biggest faults were the fact that you could die in the time it took you to switch from casting magic to fighting with a weapon. So it quite literally rendered magic classes near useless; save perhaps Restoration.

Oblivion didnt have as good a storyline/dialogue/quests as Morrowind; and it retconned a lot of the lore to be a bit more bland and simplistic (the Mages Guild for example) but it didnt completely lose the feel of the TES universe. The storyline and writing were sorta middling; not awful not great. Also the game play again was sort of middling. The engine/game was buggy as hell but there were many things it did a LOT better than Morrowind. In Oblivion you could not play as a mage or battlemage and give every bit as good as you get; You could have your sword/stave out and toss off a spell with your offhand as you back pedal as a boss level character charges you allowing you to get a bit of damage in before you get into it melee style. It made magic and magic classes viable.

Fallout 3 was still a buggy mess (the Unofficial patch project was tracking upwards of 800 individual bugs rangin CTDs to minor typos last time I checked) but it fixed a lot of the outstanding gameplay issues that existed in the engine in Oblivion; and as much as it pains me to say the AI is a LOT better than in Oblivions. Where Fallout 3 failed completely was the writing. The storyline, dialogue, and quests svck. I had more fun playing the side quests than I did with the main quest. For example the Brian Wilks quest; I totally wanted to adopt him. But gems like that were few and far between in Fallout 3.
Oblivion was no where near as appalling.

The Knights of the Nine and Shivering Isles quest lines were pretty fun to play, and not terribly written. The reams and reams of fun little side quests just swallow you up (Knights of the White Stallion anyone?) as a result in many many games of Oblivion I have only once completed the MQ. And it was decently done. The problem with the OB MQ was you definately got the feeling that Bethesda were going for an "EPIC FINAL BATTEL!!!!" sorta thing and it didnt really quite make it.
They tried the Epic Final Battle with the ultimate big bad in F3 (Super!Undead!ColonelAutumn) and Broken Steel (IAmNotSoEvilReallyPresidentEdenbot) and both ended up flopping about a bit like a wet trout because of the appallingly bad writing. Do you guys honestly put OB on the same level of badness?

Yeh Ob began the bad trend but F3 took it and ran away with it.

Thankfully Fallout New Vegas makes up for how bad Fallout 3 is by quite a bit; and hopefully Bethesda willl take the lesson and learn from it. Do you think thats maybe why they dont seem to currently be developing anything themselves at the moment?

Well, most of those that are busily enjoying the game are tending to do just that, right now - and are likely going to spend less time on the forums at the moment.

The guys that are having troubles playing the game (or just don't like it,) aren't. So they're more likely to post more frequently here, at the moment. Game forums tend to look a lot like this just after a game's release - it's just one of those natural progressions.

Look around the forum and you will get your answer.No your not the only one enjoying it.If you look at the post you can tell more people like it then dislike it.

Not sure on your last statement, but I hope you're correct.

And don't get me wrong, Oblivion was a decent entry into the Elder Scrolls series.

But, like we both agree on, it began the trend of RPGs for people who don't really like RPGs.

And I do agree that KOTN and The Shivering Isles were massive improvements.

Bugs and glitches aside a few (gamebreaking ones i had to jump back an hour or two to get a round). . I enjoyed the game alot. but on the same note im really disappointed with the ending. Or atleast the one i got. im replaying on hardcoe and going for a different ending to see if it changes my opinion also going from guns to mele. but the fact that in the last mission is where you get all the best guns and armor and then you cant continue just ticked me off. For the next game in the fallout series if they do that i just wont buy it. Probably the last game i buy on launch day for awhile untill the gaming industry gets there [censored] together every game ive purchased in the last few months had been a glitch fest (starcraft 2 not included) But as far as enjoying the game it was very enjoyable.

I have not had any (major) bugs yet and I've played the game for around 50 hours. I don't care about the graphics at all I mean have you seen Morrowinds graphics? The graphics in Fallout: New Vegas were exactly the way I expected them when I saw how much more content it had compared Fallout 3. There are way more locations with actual backstories, quests, guns, factions, options, just so many more things than Fallout 3 had, it would have been impossible to update the graphics and still have a game with a decent FPS rate. I mean look at GTA: San Andreas, the graphics svck but there is so much content the sacrifice was essential, where-as GTA: IV had new and shiny graphics but almost no actual content. So I just think that Fallout: New Vegas is a great game with almost no bugs (for me at least), decent graphics, excellent writing, awesome story, and tons of content. This game is just awesome in almost every way.

It's 2:30am, I have to get up 7am for work.
Ahem, yes, I am enjoying the game... Too much...
But even if I love some parts of it there will always be parts I dislike.
But the only thing I'll really [censored] about is how every enemy has a passion for killing Eddy.
That some EW has ridiculous ammo consumption.
And that it's very biased towards NCR rather than being equal with Legion.

Still, even with those complaints it's easily one of the best game I've ever played.
Not as good as the first two fallout's but a hell of a lot better than FO3.

Yeh I mean obviously it has bugs.

I am experiencing a random CTD bug that happens at odd times. No idea whats causing it but I just save often and in multiple slots to be safe. I am at New Vegas at the McCarran base and have had the CTD bug 3 times. Which considering I am about 12/15 hours into the game I reckon isnt too bad. Certainly not as bad as Falllout 3 on release. And I am yet to fall through the world into nothing (which I did the first time I hit Megaton in F3).
There are typos, and invisible walls, and the odd hole in the world (found one so far - killed a Gecko in the hills near Goodspring Source and when it did the dying cutscene thing it dissapeared down a hole in the world).
The game however seems to be less buggy than F3 was. Hell it seems to be less buggy than F3 STILL is. lol.

Bugs always always always happen in games. Always have always will. You are NEVER going to get a bug free game on release. Its just not going to happen. Its unrealistic to expect that. All you can hope for is a release that is "bugged" to a tolerable level, that it doesnt crash or freeze too often, that it remains faithful to the lore to around 90%, that you can get around any bugs you may hit. If you get that then your doing just fine; and I think that Fallout New Vegas falls into this category.
Whereas I felt F3 on release was intolerable and unplayable - and I actually feel it remains intolerable and unplayable without unofficial patches/mods fixing it. And even then the MQ still svcks.

I think NV is great so far but I'm not going to say better then FO3. Right now I barely have 12 hrs put into it and I played FO3 for years so until I've completed and understand everything to it's entirety I'm sticking with FO3 > NV.

Pretty sure Bethesda has said they are working on something.

*cough* TES V *cough*

I pray it's an Elder Scrolls title.

Much closer and truer to fallout than FO3, probably has to do with the fact that Obsidian(back when they were black isle) wrote the book FO/FO2. So yes, I'm enjoying it. Ever so much more.

Not the only fan. My Real Ghostbusters Egon Spengler clone just helped save Ringo and is cautiously making his way toward Vegas right about now and I'm eager to see the rest of this new setting. I know it's gonna take awhile before I'm ready to leave the roads, though. My only gameplay problems (so far) has been the occasional freeze, a gecko that got stuck in a rock and disappeared when I shot it (no hide or meat, damn.) and a bark radscorpion that fell through the world - that was a major WTF? moment. Only the freezes have really pissed me off and restarts take care of those. Minor problems overall compared to seeing this new place and playing these new adventures.