Reasons for or against riding Dragons

Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:13 pm

Dragon riding looks cool and epic, but I don't think it would feel cool and epic, it would become very boring very fast.
And imagine all of the eycandy dragon riding images that would show up on TES nexus, the horror.
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:15 am

I don't particularly care if riding dragons is in or not, but I defiately don't think it devalues or demeans them. Put it this way - do you think it's demeaning for a pilot to fly passengers somewhere? No? Because he gets paid. If the dragon got paid in some way (perhaps in some form of exotic food or other item), or did so as you had a close relationship with it, I don't see a problem with it. They may be all-powerful beasts, but that doesn't mean they'd necessarily refuse to take you somewhere. In fact they may think it demeans you, as they'll see that you are inferior to them, much like a human carrying a kitten.


There's a bit of a difference here as the pilot doesn't carry you on his shoulders, he pilots a vehicle that you ride on, so rather than the pilot putting himself in the role of a horse, his role is more like that of the driver of a carriage, whereas if dragons let you ride them they'd be like horses, very large, scaly flying and intelligent horses mind you, but horses onetheless.

And the comparison to a human carrying a kitten isn't really accurate as humans aren't told by kittens to carry them, in fact, humans can carry kittens whether they want it or not, whereas in the case of dragon riding, what people who ask for it usually want is probably more along the lines of riding a horse, you mount the dragon when you wish, and control where it goes, and get off when you want, thus the dragon is following your will. This doesn't mean the dragon is doing so unwillingly, after all, you wouldn't want to ride on the back of a flying creature high above the ground if said creature does not want you there, seeing as it could drop you if it wished, the question is, would dragons be willing to do that? The kitten anology only really applies if it's dragons picking you up whether you want it or not, which would most likely be done so they can do to you what the one in the demo did to the giant, not because they want to help you travel more quickly.

Alduin is the Big Bad, and so are dragons. We probably won't find any dragons willing to become taxi's any time soon.


While the dragons as a whole are enemies, it has been implied that we may encounter dragons that are not your enemies, but without knowing what the relationship those dragons will have with the player, if any, it's not relevant to the discussion. Just because they don't want you dead doesn't mean they're willing to let you ride them, or that they'll help you at all, so the implication that not all dragons are hostile still doesn't mean we'll be able to ride them.
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:55 pm

I don't like the idea of flying on dragons, but from another point of view, I would hate to be a developer of this huge landmass with so much detail, and then have the player just fly over it never seeing the details put into the world.
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:44 am

I'm not sure that dragons have a choice in TES V. I think they are all (mostly all) following the will of Alduin. Any that are free of Alduin's will might help you but I doubt they would let you ride them. I don't know if, roleplaying-wise, I would lower dragons to the status of "mount"...no offense to horses...
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:44 am

Even though I would like to see dragon riding implemented into Skyrim, it's not going to happen... at least officially anyway. There are also no open cities in Skyrim, so having the ability to fly can have strange results when players soar over towns. I already know the direction this poll is headed, but I don't care much how the polls here turn out anyway; they shouldn't be used as solid evidence for or against features that people do or do not want because they're don't reflect the opinions of the majority of the gaming community. As for the guy saying that dragon riding is too much like "WoW", there are several other fantasy games older than "WoW" that implemented dragon riding way before it even happened in "WoW". Dragon riding does not equal "WoW".
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:44 am

i say no, being able to ride your brethren would be an absolute desecration of the dragon race, they are intelligent beings and are much more beyond being mounts.
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:01 am

this isnt world of warcraft lol dragons are held to a higher standard in this game, and i doubt your gonna go up to a deadly dragon after hitting it a couple times and say, "hey dragon, i know your a little hurt but lets make a deal, if i can make you my pet i wont kill you." yeah good luck with that
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:59 pm

Maybe for one small part of the game it could work.But without knowing the story it's really too hard to say at this stage. Riding one round skyrim when ever you wanted wouldn't be a good move at all imo.
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:33 am

Does anyone know how Alduin is controlling the other dragons (which I knew were smart but didn’t relies were as smart if not smarter than humans and the like :facepalm: ) I know it’s more than likely a main plot point but was hoping there was something in lore about it.
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:43 am

Video proof that dragon mounts will be in skyrim!!!.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-WQmlUJHnk
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:11 am

this isnt world of warcraft lol dragons are held to a higher standard in this game, and i doubt your gonna go up to a deadly dragon after hitting it a couple times and say, "hey dragon, i know your a little hurt but lets make a deal, if i can make you my pet i wont kill you." yeah good luck with that


i was thinking more along the lines of a battle of mind and will with the dragon being as you have a dragon soul as well
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:52 am

[quote name='pepe silvia' timestamp='1309795057' post='18030698']
Video proof that dragon mounts will be in skyrim!!!.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-WQmlUJHnk
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never played WOW but 2 seconds of that video made me hate the very idea of riding a dragon
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:21 am

I don't particularly care if riding dragons is in or not, but I defiately don't think it devalues or demeans them. Put it this way - do you think it's demeaning for a pilot to fly passengers somewhere? No? Because he gets paid. If the dragon got paid in some way (perhaps in some form of exotic food or other item), or did so as you had a close relationship with it, I don't see a problem with it. They may be all-powerful beasts, but that doesn't mean they'd necessarily refuse to take you somewhere. In fact they may think it demeans you, as they'll see that you are inferior to them, much like a human carrying a kitten.

So, you think being paid make being mounted LESS demeaning? this is priceless.
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:44 am

I'd rather have http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI9ZgzxIfOM .

Love it :) How did they do it, appears to be on console so no mod?
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 3:52 pm

I'll say what I always say.

Only if they also include lances and aerial combat.
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:53 pm

And you can add cheesy, hackneyed, and Disneytastic to the roll of honour.
The dragons are returning in numbers, heralds of the end of time, the coming of Alduin the World Eater. Proud, powerful, and ferociously intelligent, of course one will give you a ride back to town so you can sell all that bandit armour.


This.
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:24 pm

dragon riding is a case by case basis. in Skyrim, most of these dragons want to kill you. Not all, but most.
you can summon a dragon to help you, but riding (or transforming) is a little over the top.
now, they may be a part of MQ where you ride a dragon, but it will probably be scripted or only give you limited control.
if the story was different, my answer would be different, but what with Alduin wanting to eat the world and all, i don't like the idea of dragon riding.
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:03 pm

"No"
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:32 am

Don't care. I'ts not going to happen end of story. Wait until someone makes a mod.
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:43 am

Love it :) How did they do it, appears to be on console so no mod?

I think it was a glitch they ran into :shrug:
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:13 am

Dragon mounts would have the same problem with closed cities as levitation, it would also have the same control problems as turning yourself into an dragon.
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:04 pm

Short answer, no.

Long answer, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...!



Reason:

Think of it? What are the dragons in Skyrim? Large, mythical, vicious beasts. Encountering them is the prelude to a dangerous and epic battle. Theyre wild, untamed and uncontrollable, powerful and strong.

What will being able to fly one do?

Make them feeble, weak, docile. Instill the idea that dragons can be bested, and tamed. How powerful can they really be when they can be subdued to the point of becoming a mount? All this will serve to do is ruin their image. Theyre not supposed to be docile, theyre supposed to be vicious and chaotic.

Once the player starts "riding" them, when they see another wild one, they'll go - "Hey, look... Its another dragon.". They'll loose their edge, that bit of "WOW" that should be instilled when you fight a dragon, and the epic feel when you enter visceral combat and eventually defeat one.


That all said:

Will some one make a mod? Yes. I'll certainly never touch it, but i guarantee it will be pretty popular if done right.
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:58 am

Why no dragon rides? Because mounted scorpion combat would be much more epic.;)
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:32 am

I'm so tired of seeing people try to use LORE or anything to say it's wrong, when it's in fact NOT.

In TES Lore dragons have been ridden, both with their will, and AGAINST their will.


Do you honestly not think, as an intelligent being, that the dragons that are friendly would not HELP people if they could save or help in some way by allowing the human to ride them? of course they would. If you yourself wer ea dragon, and a friend of yours was in mortal danger or was on an important vital quest that time was of the essence, you wouldn't help them however you could?

Dragons in TES lore are INTELLIGENT beings, they aren't generic "I'm gonan EAT CHO, GET IN MAH BELLY" style of dragons nor are they all goody two shoes. Just like humans, they can be good, bad, inbetween, etc.


There are accounts in TES lore of dragons helping people, of people riding them (rarely, but it has happened, in battles, etc).

Example of a dragon:
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Nafaalilargus
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Post » Tue Jul 05, 2011 2:48 pm

Where would I park it?
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