My 10 Reasons why Oblivion was better than Skyrim : V - Skyrim

» Thu May 17, 2012 6:16 am

LOL Oblivon guilds were better?! Surely you jest! :rofl:

» Thu May 17, 2012 1:32 am

I agree on most of those.

» Thu May 17, 2012 12:17 pm

That's your opinion why Oblivion is better.. But I strongly disagree skyrim is probably one of the best elder scrolls I have played.. Not better then Morrowind but very good better then oblivion.. Now Oblivion was a great game but wasn't as good as morrowind or skyrim is.. I got Oblivion for the Ps3 and Knights of the nine was in the game when I got it.. it was still fun and felt like an elder scroll game which is good and that is what you want.. But had a lot of dull moments when going through the oblivion gates.. It felt like the same gate over and over with 1 every 4 -5 gates had something different but then back to the same old.. If I could remember I closed 21 -25 oblivion gates and nothing really changed..

The creatures in the land were fun to kill and the caves, dungeons, ruins and side quests were also good in there own right.. Overall Both games are good in there own right I just feel that skyrim is better maybe its the dragons and I'm a svcker for dragons or it just can be the area's.towns, cities of the map are as well..

» Wed May 16, 2012 11:57 pm

Im currently lvl 37 and 43 hours into the game, I have yet to complete the main quest and have only completed one faction. This is purely my opinion.

10.No Airborn Assaults.
You can no longer jump and swing, nor can you cast while jumping. I feel as if they buffed the combat system up so much they slacked on what the original system had.
Case and point.

9.[censored] Epic Guilds.
Who would want to swing an axe or cast a spell with one of the most dominating forces in Tamriel, when you could study the art of flute playing or go to the 4-year version of hogwartz?
The mages and fighters guilds are in all games for one reason. They are badass. I feel the factions in skyrim were a little limp. The best one imo turns out to be the companions which I won't spoil.

8.HAHA MIND CONTROL.
Where the [censored] is Mysticism?

7.Immigration Rates.
Where are all the Argonians up to no good? Or those sneaky Kahjiit? Or the redguards swinging sword with their shields held high? One of the first things I noticed about skyrim is the lack of other raced npcs. Once again no spoilers, but their is a quest where you must gather the blood of every single race in the game. I wasn't able to complete it for almost 10 hours.

6.Nothing but a sprained ankle.
Okay, theirs a 10 foot drop from this rock, to the bank of the river? No problem. *jumps* *Death on impact*
Fun times.

5&4. Going Pro.
Athletics and Acrobatics have been removed from the elder scrolls game. That svcks, superbly.

3.Flying to new lows.
Dragons! [censored] yea! Oh wait, uhmm........only 3 swings from my ebony battle axe and a dual casted ice storm killed you? Heh, giants are more of a challenge, now I know why you went extinct.

2.Who needs a whole book just take this scroll, you'll be fine.
There is a serious lack of spells in this game, their is also a serious lack of spell creation system. This is a big let down considering how epic those things were....and to see them go is doodoo.

1.DUBYA TEE EFF WUR IZ MAH CONZTRUZION KEHTZ!
Lol, thats just me raging. RELEASE THE CONSTRUCTION KIT NOOOOOOW!

1. No comment
2. Spells feel much more physical, that allow justifies that
3. Kinda I guess it was balancing for the sneak types, but that's like 30-50 hits though, what difficulty are you playing on?
4 and 5. Flying threw mid air like superman is something I will not miss from mw or ob
6. When, I never had that happen to me. Really I fell out a tower and lived
7. This one feels alone, with no one to share his sugar with... Me bro
8. It's a magic thing. I just wish it was applicable to the player to get hit by one
9. The guilds are fine. The last ones felt tacky. I really like the db one so far
10. I guess that body slam we all been hoping is out the question. The combat feels more like a melee that tag. It's the same as slowing back peddling
if ob is so much better then why are you playing Skyrim as we speak. I know you are don't lie to me.

» Thu May 17, 2012 9:40 am

agree on custom spellmaking, it need to be in, and more racial diversity in the biggest cities at least

I don't think there should be racial diversity, Nords have always kept to themselves, they don't like outsiders, it makes sense to see mostly Nords. Morrowind was mostly Dunmer for the same reason. Its like if you go to Africa, most of the people are going to be African. I don't get why people don't get this.

» Thu May 17, 2012 11:07 am

Reasons why Skyrim is worse than Oblivion.
1. Console port with a buggy UI for the pc.
2. Magic was really trimmed down in this game, in fact a little too much. Where are spells like Feather Fall, Water Walking, Absorb attributes, Unlock, Charm, Shield Spells etc..
3. Pretty shallow guild quests.

Reasons why The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is the greatest game in the history of the universe. compared to skyrim:
1. Skyrim's graphics are a hell of alot better.
2. The Music in this game is just awesome, and a hell of alot better than Oblivions.
3. The world in Skyrim feels much more alive. For example in Skyrim you can walk past a farm and see a person working on his garden with tools, or pass a blacksmith and see him smithing. Where as in Oblivion everyone just stood their looking stupid.
4. Dragons......
5. Character development system is much better in Skyrim in my opinion than in Oblivion.
6. And for all intents and purposes I like the magic system here better, with the exception of the mechanics on how to cast a spell... i.e click, hold, releases versus just click.

» Thu May 17, 2012 7:43 am

meh

i miss all the jumping spellcasting , now i get buttraqed everytime i try to do that

» Thu May 17, 2012 4:03 am

I don't remember anything epic about Oblivion's Fighters/Mages guild quests. Especially the Mages Guild. The Arcane University and Mannimarco were 2 big disappointing jokes.

» Thu May 17, 2012 3:39 am

Don't get me wrong, I loved Oblivion when it came out but Skyrim >>>>> Oblivion

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» Wed May 16, 2012 10:06 pm

What do people not get about certain races not being in Skyrim? I play an Argonian and actually expected to be the only one due to the fact that they are cold-blooded. Meaning the frigid temperatures would kill them. I was pleasantly surprised however to see others. Bear in mind that some of the races look and sound identical now as opposed to Morrowind having certain voice actors.

Who cares though? If I'm the only Argonian in the game so what? I'm a badass. And marriage issues? If I want to stick my lizard "situation" into a Nord woman's "particular area" I'll do so.

Play the game and quit complaining. There is seriously too much right with this game to moan as much as as people are.

By the way is it neccessary to quote the OP then make your own list? Just skip to step 2 it was a nightmare navigating this thread.

» Wed May 16, 2012 9:45 pm

9.[censored] Epic Guilds.
Who would want to swing an axe or cast a spell with one of the most dominating forces in Tamriel, when you could study the art of flute playing or go to the 4-year version of hogwartz?
The mages and fighters guilds are in all games for one reason. They are badass. I feel the factions in skyrim were a little limp. The best one imo turns out to be the companions which I won't spoil.

3.Flying to new lows.
Dragons! [censored] yea! Oh wait, uhmm........only 3 swings from my ebony battle axe and a dual casted ice storm killed you? Heh, giants are more of a challenge, now I know why you went extinct.

9. I hated the Mage's Guild and Fighter's Guild. Why? Cause they're named [censored] Mage's and Fighter's Guild, they're also so very... Boring... In Oblivion they just sort of appeared in every city like it was mandatory, I like Skyrim's way of handling it more, though I would have preffered if there were like 3 different "warrior" guilds to choose from and once you pick one the other ones lock off as you compete with the other guilds and ultimately crush them by the end of those storylines.

3. I just spent 4 minutes with an Ice Dragon as Lydia glitched through the sky cause I used TLC on her so uh, yeah.

» Thu May 17, 2012 7:23 am

This game blows Oblivion out of the water and stomps it's face in. If you want to focus on things you wish it had while ignoring the great new things, it's thy loss, knave.

» Thu May 17, 2012 2:56 am

The guild quests in Oblivion svcked.

They were all go here kill this, or go here talk to them quests. And some how that qualified you to be the king foobah after about a weeks worth of work (game time).
At least Skyrim's has stories to them, even if they are short.

» Wed May 16, 2012 11:47 pm

The only things that really bother me about Skyrim is the limitations that did not exist in prior games, and dont really need to exist. For example, Sprint+Jump, Jump+Attack, Water-Walking, and more.

When it comes to spells, honestly the spellmaking system in oblivion was just way too statsy for me. Magick is supposed to be a mystical art, not the art of crunching numbers to make the best spell...all spellmaking in oblivion did for me is continually make me think that i wasn't using a good enough one. It was only when i used the store bought spells that i actually felt like i was doing okay.

However, if it were implemented in a way more lore-appropriate, i would be all for it. For example, in order to cast a spell you first need to gather all the ingredients for it, and the more powerful the spell, the more ingredients needed. A low level frost spell might take 10 thistle seeds, while a high level frost spell might take 20 frost salts, y'know?

If it were like that, I could go with it, because it's a bit more mystical, but i would never want to have a system like oblivions spellmaking again.

» Thu May 17, 2012 1:27 am

With the aerial combat i would have liked some, like in assasins creed, jumping/falling from roof/cliff (small distance) and using that momentum to drive my sword down through their shoulder.

» Wed May 16, 2012 10:45 pm

Racial Diversity is something I'd really love... I'm only rolling nords because I look so [CENSORED AS MESS] weird being a kitten among men...
I can understand why acrobatics was taken out because jumping leveled it... but they coulda made an alernative move like changing how you got it maybe?
I'd prefer an oblivion with skyrim graphics anyday since the mage guild was one of the reasons I love TES... the other being the now tiny thieves guild-.- which is so freaking small now... maybe next game... btw thats not a spoiler it's easy to find out how small they are and it'll probably ease your dissapointment

» Wed May 16, 2012 10:48 pm

Oblivion dos a few things better, not being able to run and jump or jump and attack - idiotic. Lack of races in towns is bad. But skyrim is still infiniely better then Oblivion which is easily the worst TES game and most overrated RPG this gen.

^ All of this, no need to say anything else but maybe a few more of these - ^ ^ ^.

» Thu May 17, 2012 1:39 am

I'm going to be quite frank as there is not much to say on this. Comparing them by the standards of the times they were released, Oblivion was the worst of the main 5 elder scrolls games. I am just glad Bethesda is a decent company and fixed a great many of Oblivions missteps for Skyrim.

» Thu May 17, 2012 7:55 am

While a couple of your points may be true Oblivion pales in comparison as a whole. With mods Skyrim should be epic. The base game they have given us to mod is incredible and there is so much to work with.

» Thu May 17, 2012 10:37 am

6.Nothing but a sprained ankle.
Okay, theirs a 10 foot drop from this rock, to the bank of the river? No problem. *jumps* *Death on impact*
Fun times.

[censored]. I've jumped from the roof of the mages college to the entrance walkway below & survived....barely.
Maybe armor or carry weight factors?

» Wed May 16, 2012 8:10 pm

Hey OP, you're a [censored]. Play Oblivion if you prefer Oblivion. your ten reasons are all stupid.

» Thu May 17, 2012 5:21 am

1. No Attributes - the game plays like a action adventure game

2. Lack of spells (not chameleon or open locks but others)

3. No real good outdoor combat, I miss goblins

4. Guilds are weak

Those are my reasons, i see two of them on your list. Good job. Now i DO NOT care how easy dragons are to kill

» Thu May 17, 2012 3:46 am

The main reasons why Oblivion was better than Syrim?

1- The Quest Journal

2- The Leveling-Up (everybody else hates it, I loved it)

3- Oblivion had a more "classic" feeling and did not remind me of Fallout: New Vegas.

» Thu May 17, 2012 10:32 am

Reasons why Skyrim is worse than Oblivion.
1. Console port with a buggy UI for the pc.
2. Magic was really trimmed down in this game, in fact a little too much. Where are spells like Feather Fall, Water Walking, Absorb attributes, Unlock, Charm, Shield Spells etc..
3. Pretty shallow guild quests.

Reasons why The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is the greatest game in the history of the universe. compared to skyrim:
1. Skyrim's graphics are a hell of alot better.
2. The Music in this game is just awesome, and a hell of alot better than Oblivions.
3. The world in Skyrim feels much more alive. For example in Skyrim you can walk past a farm and see a person working on his garden with tools, or pass a blacksmith and see him smithing. Where as in Oblivion everyone just stood their looking stupid.
4. Dragons......
5. Character development system is much better in Skyrim in my opinion than in Oblivion.
6. And for all intents and purposes I like the magic system here better, with the exception of the mechanics on how to cast a spell... i.e click, hold, releases versus just click.

You might wana reread your post there.

You just said Oblivion is the greatest game in the history of the universe compared to skyrim. In other words. you said Oblivion > Skyrim.

» Thu May 17, 2012 1:41 am

You might wana reread your post there.

You just said Oblivion is the greatest game in the history of the universe compared to skyrim. In other words. you said Oblivion > Skyrim.

Oblivion is a better game than Skyrim, IMO.

Referring to an earlier post - I REALLY miss all the spells like chameleon and open lock...