Im currently lvl 37 and 43 hours into the game, I have yet to complete the main quest and have only completed one faction. This is purely my opinion.


10.No Airborn Assaults.
You can no longer jump and swing, nor can you cast while jumping. I feel as if they buffed the combat system up so much they slacked on what the original system had.
Case and point.

9.[censored] Epic Guilds.
Who would want to swing an axe or cast a spell with one of the most dominating forces in Tamriel, when you could study the art of flute playing or go to the 4-year version of hogwartz?
The mages and fighters guilds are in all games for one reason. They are badass. I feel the factions in skyrim were a little limp. The best one imo turns out to be the companions which I won't spoil.

8.HAHA MIND CONTROL.
Where the [censored] is Mysticism?

7.Immigration Rates.
Where are all the Argonians up to no good? Or those sneaky Kahjiit? Or the redguards swinging sword with their shields held high? One of the first things I noticed about skyrim is the lack of other raced npcs. Once again no spoilers, but their is a quest where you must gather the blood of every single race in the game. I wasn't able to complete it for almost 10 hours.

6.Nothing but a sprained ankle.
Okay, theirs a 10 foot drop from this rock, to the bank of the river? No problem. *jumps* *Death on impact*
Fun times.

5&4. Going Pro.
Athletics and Acrobatics have been removed from the elder scrolls game. That svcks, superbly.

3.Flying to new lows.
Dragons! [censored] yea! Oh wait, uhmm........only 3 swings from my ebony battle axe and a dual casted ice storm killed you? Heh, giants are more of a challenge, now I know why you went extinct.

2.Who needs a whole book just take this scroll, you'll be fine.
There is a serious lack of spells in this game, their is also a serious lack of spell creation system. This is a big let down considering how epic those things were....and to see them go is doodoo.

1.DUBYA TEE EFF WUR IZ MAH CONZTRUZION KEHTZ!
Lol, thats just me raging. RELEASE THE CONSTRUCTION KIT NOOOOOOW!

agree on custom spellmaking, it need to be in, and more racial diversity in the biggest cities at least

Those are all worthy criticisms but pretty weak compared to a list of 10 reasons why skyrim was better than oblivion.

Biggest one that resonates with me is not being able to swing while jumping. DFA was very fun in Oblivion.

Oblivion dos a few things better, not being able to run and jump or jump and attack - idiotic. Lack of races in towns is bad. But skyrim is still infiniely better then Oblivion which is easily the worst TES game and most overrated RPG this gen.

When I saw 10 reasons why Oblivion was better than Skyrim I came here to read 10 jokes.

Agree partly, but Skyrim's a much better game than Oblivion, without a shadow of a doubt.

The immigration point is a good one. I can't say I have seen many Orcs or Argonians.

I would have liked to see a bit more diversity with the shops in Skyrim. I loved how Morrowind & Oblivion had some very specialised shops, i.e. Just shields or Staffs etc. Shops are a tad lame, although I like the Khajit caravans.

richo

You actually make some good points, especially with the Guilds. I was expecting so much more.

I prefer a fully modded Morrowind to both actually.
And im not saying Skyrim is bad by no means. It is definitely an epic game, worthy of GOTY and will most likely get it. I just think the game could have been alot better than it is.

Just no. Oblivion was very average. Morrowind on the other hand......

Also have you ever jumped down 10 feet? Its a lot higher than you'd think..

Agree with a few of them... i felt the guilds storyline on Oblivion were better than Skyrim. Haven't completed every guild yet so my opinion is subject to change

I completed that Quest in ten to fifteen minutes. I'm assuming you mean the one ending with a book. Just look for Bandits and go to a dungeon or two.

Skyrim's character customization is very lacking too. I understand Oblivion was very "playdough", however, Skyrim's customization was just choosing a bunch of presets. It didn't go beyond that. Skyrim's customization should have been the hybrid baby of Oblivion and Fallout 3. But no. Instead it was lackluster and frustrating.

I was stuck on the wood elf blood for the longest, I ended up catching a bounty just because I found one, hah.

10. Jumping and swinging is a non issue for me really.

9. Personally disagree, the guilds in Oblivion were pretty lame other than the Dark Brotherhood which had fun quests.

8. The spells are in different schools now, check illusion for mind controlling spells. Actually, mind control spells were illusion in Oblivion as well, so....

7. The game is lore-friendly, there wouldn't be very many Argonians or Khajiit in a place like Skyrim......so they didn't include many in Skyrim.

6. Fall damage hasn't bothered me yet, but I haven't made a habit of jumping of tall things I'll admit.

5&4. Don't miss them at all.

3. Agree, level scaling made Dragons lackluster. Oblivion didn't have dragons at all though.

2. I think excluding spell creation was a good choice. I agree that they could have more spell variety in some schools however, part of this is also due to certain spells(looking at you, ward and turn undead) being worthless or just very rarely practical or worth using(Oblivion had similar issues, though). However, magic actually feels and looks much better in Skyrim, the spells aren't all basically the same like they were in previous games.

1. Yeah it would be nice to have the construction kit out. This isn't really an argument that Oblivion>Skyrim however, as Skyrim still has a construction set it's release is just delayed. This is like complaining there aren't any expansions or DLC yet for Skyrim.

i totally agree on that one.

I don't mind at all that some races are more rare in Skyrim. From a regional point of view that makes sense. Also, generally I think the physics in Skyrim are MUCH better than Oblivion. I love that you can't just run backwards away from enemies at the same speed you'd run forward, casting spells until they're dead. I also love that enemies actually react when you drive an axe into their forehead. And I don't think I need to mention the dual-wielding/spellcasting.

Don't get me wrong, I love Oblivion but overall I think I now prefer Skyrim.

Well i was wondering that too, but every new games esp from Bethesda will change over the years, some will and some will not like the ideas. Infact Skyrim is really good, but needed extra tune up to correct things. Still alot of minor bugs and still alot of work to improve it. Be patient, im sure there will be mods to increase the realism gameplay, not sure if other platform can use it tho, it meant for PC only.

Alright, go back to your generated dungeons and landscapes, [censored] leveling system, inferior graphics and inferior combat system. The only thing I wish were back are attributes.

This is really a big deal to you? I'm not sure I can agree that this is a bad thing, because it doesn't make much sense to be freefalling and winding up a power attack at the same time. Have you ever tried jumping and swinging a weapon? In the real world, that's not very practical. Even more so while wearing some heavy armor.


The guilds could definitely use some work, I agree. I've been thinking of things to add to the game with the Set to make the guilds a bit better.


A lot of those spells were merged with other spell groups. Soul trap, for instance, is in Conjuration now.


I would expect to see more Nords than anything in Skyrim. It seems to me that Khajit and Argonians are more of a "second-class" citizen. If you look outside of Whiterun, there are quite a few that weren't allowed in. I can also see Argonians not liking cold weather as much (ever notice they are constantly slimy? They live in a swamp, and I imagine they like it more than snow). Khajits probably don't care, though.


Wear some 60-100lbs armor and make the same jump - let's see what happens. This is also an exaggeration.


Maybe, maybe not. You can sprint in this game, which you couldn't in the others, so it made sense to have something increase your walk speed in previous games. The skill itself was worthless, though. Acrobatics could maybe have made a reappearence, but I don't see it as a big deal that it's not in the game either... unless jumping 20ft and gliding along rooftops is something you really need. Skyrim went a lot more to the side of realism than any of the others, what with stamina and all that.


Acceptable concern. The problem most people have with this is that they try so hard to break the game by powerleveling skills they should not conceivably have that high by that point and then complain that everything is to easy for them because of level-scaling. This is just as much a problem with certain players as it is with the game. In my game, and at level 21, Giants and Dragons take roughly the same amount of time to kill. The only real difference is that giants hit harder. This can easily be changed, and probably will, in future patches.


There are plenty of spells, you just can't learn/use them until you have the appropriate perk. It's doubtful you would be able to cast those spells anyway with how the health/mana/stamina system works. I do miss the spellmaker, though.


Unwarranted. It's not like the Construction Set will never be released. So, in other words, this point will be lost completely in a couple weeks and is by no means a meaningful complaint.

Haha I totally am digging the difference in opinions here.
I definitely love the duel hands system. And in my first reason i hint towards how amazing they really did up the combat system. Stamina can be a [censored] sometimes, but I should probably just turn the difficulty down to expert rather than complain about that.

Assuming this isn't a troll/joke topic, is Oblivion becoming the golden standard for Skyrim players who never played Morrowind? Kind of like how Oblivion was compared unfavorably by many Morrowind players to Oblivion....and Morrowind to Daggerfall, etc, etc.

The GUILDS in Oblivion were pointless. Everyone said the same thing. It constantly felt like you weren't apart of them. Skyrim's may be shorter but it's a hell of a lot more detailed.

1) FCOM
2) Better LANDSCAPE graphics even without mods
3) Better graphics with mods
4) Melee fights look x10 times more beautiful
5) perfomance

+1 Why give us less options? This is the only thing that really bugs me about this game. I want attributes I want primary and secondary skills.