The mainland's smoked, and a lot of argonians were killing survivors there. They went to Cyrodiil and Solstheim, where the Skaal have shown them hospitality.

they could come to sumerset isle to be slaves thats all their good for to bad they didnt all get wiped out

We don't take too kindly to your kind 'round here.

The egomaniacle Altmer can be my slaves.

altmor dont do the slave thing go ask the lizards and cats to do that. altmors rule and redguards are cool because they put the smack down on the orcs to bad they couldnt finisg the job oh well the nords can use them to show they arent the most brainless savage things around

I never get peoples hostility towards Orcs and the greater one toward Nords

Such is the beauty of fiction and virtual worlds. So many people argue against video games, saying that they're desensitizing us and making us less aware of those around us and the gravity which surrounds every action we make in the real world. But I think otherwise: I've grown so attached to so many of Bethesda's characters and locations. Not only in Morrowind, but in Daggerfall and Redguard and even Oblivion. If anything I think that open-ended games give us a greater appreciation for respecting others, as we're given greater exposure to the breadth and ken of their personality and their importance within the context of the world and its history than we ever get out of your average passerby in the real world. Certainly, I absolutely refuse to kill innocents in TES games.

These weren't just territorial holds that were eradicated, but a history and culture which the Dunmer will never be able to return to.


That's...really harsh. Sometimes I don't know where you draw the line between posting in-character and simply being happy whenever Morrowind fans have their hearts broken. Trust me, I identify with Daggerfall first and Morrowind second, but I don't think I've ever felt stronger attachment to a fictional world. This is like the time you said "down with spears", with no justification other than that Morrowind had them and you thought there'd be no way to make them balanced within the context of Skyrim's combat. And we still don't know much about just how the combat dynamics will play out in that game: I can't believe you're one to think that Bethesda has no chance of making something "work" in a game they're developing, and would be better off not trying at all. But whatever, we have our opinions. :shrug:

Hostility towards Nords?

I've never noticed anything but refreshing irritation with the omnipresent Viking fetish.

well people tend to just call them idiot savages not myself because i think the very opposite. It is true though many times have i seen people show great aggression towards those two more so orcs than nords but you will find plenty of nord hate posted

No race of people deserves such scorn and hatred - especially not those of the caliber or character and perseverance of the children of Veloth the Pilgrim. They've endured countless hardships and will continue to find a way to endure. That's their way. Haters gonna hate.

They see me chimin'
They hatin
Patrollin
And tryin to catch me zero summin
Trying to catch me zero summin
Trying to catch me zero summin
Trying to catch me zero summin

My muatra's so big
I'm swaaaangin.

Congratulations you magnificent bastard. I choked to death on turnip greens because of you.

That's a win, right there.

I know I'm curious to see where Bethesda veers from stereotypical Nord and makes them unique.

Very interestingly, it's clear that this bit of foreshadowing for TES IV was placed into the Tribunal expansion on purpose, since the writing work had already begun for Oblivion when development on Tribunal got underway (circa late 2002).



It's supposedly near the old border of Morrowind, according to the TES Wiki.

The prospect of actually getting some Dunmer architecture in the new game? Hells yes, says I.



As noted in the novel, the Dunmer had basically just gotten the living crap kicked out of them, as a result of the Ministry's fall, the eruption of Red Mountain, as well as the recent Dagoth Ur uprising and Oblivion/Nord crises. By the time the Argonians invaded southern Morrowind, they were scattered and disparate, and in no real shape to mount a coordinated defense of their homeland.



I'm busy holding out the hope that we'll be seeing some meaty in-game references to not only the Red Year and the circumstances surrounding the diaspora of the entire Dunmer civilization, but also to stuff like the Umbriel Crisis and the other events from Greg Keyes' novels.

It's extremely likely, given both the separate timeframes between his books and TES V, as well as the fact that Bethesda seem to be a pretty out-of-game-lore-friendly company. Keyes has mentioned that he worked closely with Pete Hines and Todd Howard on the books, which bodes well for reciprocal referencing within the games themselves.

:rofl: