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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:01 pm

What do you guys think of the voices for redgaurds in oblivion and what do you think they should sound like in skyrim.

Michael Mack is rumoured to be back, so at least some will sound familiar. I hope they use Gayle Jessup again, won't be so jarring if everyone does just a few characters.
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 2:40 pm

They have a very interesting culture, an awesome pantheon, and, in general, I don't think I've ever met a Redguard that I didn't like. Also, Cyrus the Restless is the best character in TES.


100% agree.
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:42 am

The Redguard females, if you actually look, are not "darker" than the males. Yes, the lightest preset was a male, but that's only one guy--they pretty much average out the same. There are real-life black women who are darker than other real-life black men and vice-versa. Besides, you don't see people nitpicking over the relative skin tones of the other human races. They're not Africans or people of African descent anyway, so they can look however Bethesda wants them to look. I think they look amazing.

Anyway, I want my first character to be a Dunmer/Redguard hybrid female (don't care if the lore says that's impossible, psh!) with pointy ears and dark blue-ish brown skin, if they give some leeway with the RGB of the skin tones. And warpaint. And scars. Awesome.

Probably a stealth character, but maybe some mage-type stuff mixed in.

I thought the voice actors of the male and female Redguards in Oblivion were ok. I hope there's more variety there.
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:11 pm

Anyway, I want my first character to be a Dunmer/Redguard hybrid female (don't care if the lore says that's impossible, psh!) with pointy ears and dark blue-ish brown skin, if they give some leeway with the RGB of the skin tones. And warpaint. And scars. Awesome.


Lore states that any combination of men and mer can result in children, the kids take after the mother but with a few traits of the father.

So, to make sure you can have the pointed ears, start with a dunmer and work the rest of the sliders to get a redguard-ish result.
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:14 am



Anyway, I want my first character to be a Dunmer/Redguard hybrid female (don't care if the lore says that's impossible, psh!)

Not impossible even in the lore. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Notes_on_Racial_Phylogeny actually say :
"Generally the offspring bear the racial traits of the mother, though some traces of the father's race may also be present."
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:40 pm

Lore states that any combination of men and mer can result in children, the kids take after the mother but with a few traits of the father.

So, to make sure you can have the pointed ears, start with a dunmer and work the rest of the sliders to get a redguard-ish result.


Cool! Yeah, I was gonna start with a Dunmer for the ears, eyes, and forehead, and have a Redguard's nose, mouth, and hair. I hope Orcs and Redguards aren't the only races that can have afro-textured hair. I want my girl to have the "lock-hawk".

I usually play a stealth Khajiit, but when they took away acrobatics/athletics there really wasn't any incentive. It helps that all the races look fantastic in Skyrim. Can't wait!
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:52 pm

i have one question what the hell is a redgaurd??????? i know redguards though!
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 6:08 pm

I like that they can have blue, yellow, white, and green eyes. Really brings out their skin tone. I think it's hot. ;)
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:45 am

Anyway, I want my first character to be a Dunmer/Redguard hybrid female (don't care if the lore says that's impossible, psh!) with pointy ears and dark blue-ish brown skin, if they give some leeway with the RGB of the skin tones. And warpaint. And scars. Awesome.

Lore states that any combination of men and mer can result in children, the kids take after the mother but with a few traits of the father.

So, to make sure you can have the pointed ears, start with a dunmer and work the rest of the sliders to get a redguard-ish result.

Those "few traits of the father" are not part of the physical appearance. Things like a magical aptitude or things like that might be carried over, but that's about it. Look at Bretons, they are the result of years of men and mer breeding together, and yet it's still hard to distinguish a Breton from an Imperial. The child takes on the appearance of the race of the mother completely, so any Dunmer that mysteriously has a Redguard-like physical appearance would be against the lore, and you'll be hard-pressed to find a way to make them look very similar.
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:22 am

If Skyrim has quality voice acting and dialogue like in Redguard; like the first video between 6:28-8:18. The second video between 0:02-2:32. The third video 0:42-4:38, I'll be happy. This is just an example, Redguard has more quality dialogue which are believable and well written.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGLscqybcUU&feature=channel_video_title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8RDULb3XDc&feature=channel_video_title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSBmSzMa0yc&feature=relmfu
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:29 am

Those "few traits of the father" are not part of the physical appearance. Things like a magical aptitude or things like that might be carried over, but that's about it. Look at Bretons, they are the result of years of men and mer breeding together, and yet it's still hard to distinguish a Breton from an Imperial. The child takes on the appearance of the race of the mother completely, so any Dunmer that mysteriously has a Redguard-like physical appearance would be against the lore, and you'll be hard-pressed to find a way to make them look very similar.


There's nothing that says it can't influence the look at least a little bit. Morgiah has her mother's (Barenziah) red eyes but her father's (Symmachus) light skin. I also doubt the Gray Prince's mother had gray skin.

Actually, you can't even mix and match racial traits/powers in game to cover half-bloods. Appearance is the ONLY way to indicate mixed parentage in the creator.

Considering some of the things you could come up with in Oblivion, I highly doubt that sliders wouldn't allow at least a somewhat redguardish skin coloring along with thickiening the features a bit.

I consider in-game examples as having precedence over the PR director when it comes to lore canon, but you are welcome to disagree.
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:47 pm

Hard pressed? I doubt it. I'm sure the sliders allow us a wide range of appearances for each race, regardless of the lore. It's not far fetched to imagine a Dunmer with a wide nose or large lips, for example, or a Redguard with a think nose and straight hair. Worth a shot either way, right?
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:49 pm

How can you not like a race who's pantheon includes a God of "we have too many Gods" ? :lmao:
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:32 pm

What do you guys think of the voices for redgaurds in oblivion and what do you think they should sound like in skyrim.


While I think it might get repetative for every NPC to have a nord accent, i think it would add depth if the native born ones did, regardless of race.

Btw, the sixiest voice I've ever heard was a native born black girl in Denmark. A throaty combination of british english, lilting yet glotal scandinavian, and sultry west african vocal chords. Damn.
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:51 am

my main will be a redguard....the warpaint is so badass, especially the one on that female with the yellow skull, hopefully its also available to males
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:20 pm

are the redgaurds the black guys in oblivion?
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:23 pm

I think I may take a Redguard wife. If she's a mage at least.
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Post » Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:13 am

Sangria - a Redguard - female - a rare Redguard who does not distrust things mystic. Known among her people as a medicine woman.

A cool, sassy lady, named after a cool, sassy drink.

The starting preset to build this character is Redguard female #5.

Playing this character should prove very interesting for me.
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:25 pm

I can't I on my phone.
But what I meant was that females have a lighter skin tone in real life so that they can make extra vitamin k for a baby when pregnant.


Uh, no. Not sure where you heard that from, but thats not at all true.
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:26 pm

I can't I on my phone.
But what I meant was that females have a lighter skin tone in real life so that they can make extra vitamin k for a baby when pregnant.


Lighter skin helps with production of vitamin D, not vitamin K. Vitamin K is produced by intestinal bacteria.

As for gender differences, remember that folate is also critical in fetal development and ultraviolet light destroys folate reserves, so lighter skin might not help much overall.

Besides, humans on Nirn didn't evolve over millions of years, and redguards are a seagoing people with plenty of access to fish as a source of vitamin D.

Uh, no. Not sure where you heard that from, but thats not at all true.


I'm guessing he got it from a study by Nina Jablonski and George Chaplin: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/07/3/text_pop/l_073_04.html but its about vitamin D, not K. The difference is only 3-4% though, so not really noticeable visually.
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 5:50 pm

Stop bringing Earth Science into my Fantasy world. :violin:
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:44 pm

I don't like how the females have darker skin than the male which is the complete reverse in real life.

are there redguards in real life? :confusedturtle:
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 10:00 pm

What is the difference between a redguard and a nord and an imperial? Gameplay wise, i mean. Not lore wise.

I wanna play a warrior/stealth character. Sword, board, bows and some stealth to dwindle the number of enemies before i go melee (with an occasiobal magic here and there). Is redguard my race of choise or is it an imperial or nord?


this is my doubt: i'm starting a new oblivion adventure (waiting for skyrim so much) and I want a pure warrior. I'm very waver between a nord and a redguard. why should I choose a redguard??? thanks!
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:46 am

Anyone notice how the voice actor for male redguards sounds almost identical to Freddie Coleman of ESPN radio?
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Post » Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:17 am

Wow. Some of these comments. Just wow.

I swear i've seen more racial sensitivity in TES Redgaurd discussions on 4 chan. I kid you not.
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