Redo FO 1&2?

Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:00 pm

:nono: No never, ever, ever. It is blasphemous and wrong. They can't be remade and they shouldn't. Tampering with something that doesn't need it is pointless. " If it ain't broke don't fix it. "

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/forum/34-fallout-series-discussion/
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Dalley hussain
 
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 10:47 am

Told you. :)


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Paul Rice
 
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:56 pm

Why people keep asking these questions? Are they intentionally seeking flame war or what? Everyone knows that these discussions won't end well.
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aisha jamil
 
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 7:25 pm

I've never played the first two games and would love to play them but I have no PC! I would love to see them on the PS3, XBOX or smart phone as a straight port! No changes at all!! Is this even possible?
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 11:18 am

I've never played the first two games and would love to play them but I have no PC! I would love to see them on the PS3, XBOX or smart phone as a straight port! No changes at all!! Is this even possible?
No PC at all? (MAC?) Fallout 1 shipped http://www.macintoshgarden.org/games/fallout-mac-os-7-9-demo* (OS7 PPC), FO2 eventually did as well; but you'd be better off with the http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/fallout-2 (even on a MAC) I think.

The system requirements are so miniscule, that any form of PC emulation on a MAC should be enough to play them, and any PC from the last 15 years should be able to run them just fine.


*The link, while it might work, is only for reference sake. I have not downloaded and tested it myself.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 11:24 am

no, no redo please. Anytime they've ever tried to redo a classic, and i'm not talking about Bethesda but anyone, they've managed to destroy everything that made them great. The great thing about fo3 was they took the series and expanded on it into something better and did so with New vegas as well...they didn't try and go back to 1 and 2 and change everything about the world and redo them to make them 'better'.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 12:20 pm

First.. NO!

Why does everything have to be First Person these days, I'm yearning for something Isometric just because I'm sick to death of every game right now being an FPS.

Second...^^this. I ask myself the same thing, C&C, Warcraft III, Civilization, Diablo I & II are all isometric and those games are a lot of fun to play.

Even the new Diablo III will have isometric view, although the graphics will be 3D.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 4:00 pm

First.. NO!



Second...^^this. I ask myself the same thing, C&C, Warcraft III, Civilization, Diablo I & II are all isometric and those games are a lot of fun to play.

Even the new Diablo III will have isometric view, although the graphics will be 3D.
Witcher (1) had two functional 3d-Isometric modes in addition to the OTS mode; A big disappointment that this was omitted in Witcher 2. (Marred the game IMO).
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 1:54 pm

I see no advantage in spending time and money on remaking Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 if they could be spending that time and money on making Fallout 4 and Fallout 5 instead. FO1 and FO2 are still perfectly playable, no need to remake them.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:30 pm

Why people keep asking these questions? Are they intentionally seeking flame war or what? Everyone knows that these discussions won't end well.

Not my intentions what-so-ever. I was just curious to see if there were any others out there that would be interested in this. (although it will never happen)
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:59 pm

i have never played 1 and 2 want to would love to see on consoles but if the only thing they changed was the controls ok and better graph not gonna happen i've seen to many games and tv shows butchered from remakes
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 4:45 pm

I would like it. I found both F1 and F2 were more fallout than F3 and NV. I mean, in F3 and NV, wearing power armor does not mean anything, and it does not change your size either. I love F3 and NV but the way the armor system is just svcks. I think the DT-Dmg resis should return, having different DT and resistances for each weapon type on a armor. F3 had the Resist and NV had the DT, I think the should combine the two as it would make wearing Combat armor or power armor a whole lot more real. Id love to see the DT-Dmg resis for T-45D armor
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:18 pm

I would like it. I found both F1 and F2 were more fallout than F3 and NV. I mean, in F3 and NV, wearing power armor does not mean anything, and it does not change your size either. I love F3 and NV but the way the armor system is just svcks. I think the DT-Dmg resis should return, having different DT and resistances for each weapon type on a armor. F3 had the Resist and NV had the DT, I think the should combine the two as it would make wearing Combat armor or power armor a whole lot more real. Id love to see the DT-Dmg resis for T-45D armor
The problem is, you wouldn't get it. Any remake would cater to the mass-market crowd and be heavily watered down. A lot of the humor would go too, since those games laughed at the mere notion of 'Political Correctness', and had a lot of comments that no current developer would ever consider allowing.

As such I have to say

NO! :flame: :swear:

To any possible remake as the games would be horribly butchered in the process.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 1:03 pm

Some people must be masochist asking questions such as this. That's like asking Hollywood to do a remake of Citizen Kane or the Wizard of Oz. You just can't. Leave the classics alone.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 10:17 am

Since the thread is already rife with sacrilege and blasphemy shall we talk about FOBOS ?

* Runs and dives into foxhole *

*Whispering *

But seriously, if you're going to do a remake why not remake the worst one ?
It's not like a remake of FOBOS could be any worse than the original.
Ya know ? Like maybe it could be redeemed.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 8:06 pm

Since the thread is already rife with sacrilege and blasphemy shall we talk about FOBOS ?

* Runs and dives into foxhole *

*Whispering *

But seriously, if you're going to do a remake why not remake the worst one ?
It's not like a remake of FOBOS could be any worse than the original.
Ya know ? Like maybe it could be redeemed.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 5:50 am

Oh for the love of all these sacred, will you people grow the hell up? Seriously, if the only change was updated graphics, the only issue would be your nostalgic childhood, and you HAVE the 'original' Fallouts if you're whining about it. I have, played, and love the old Fallouts, but I'm mature enough to know that if they don't change the story or settings, that the game itself is not ruined. :shakehead:
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 2:17 pm

Oh for the love of all these sacred, will you people grow the hell up? Seriously, if the only change was updated graphics, the only issue would be your nostalgic childhood, and you HAVE the 'original' Fallouts if you're whining about it. I have, played, and love the old Fallouts, but I'm mature enough to know that if they don't change the story or settings, that the game itself is not ruined. :shakehead:
I don't really agree with that... I think several things would be lost, including some of the more intangible effects on the player as they play. Even just swapping out the voice actors would do this. :shrug:
While I'm sure the original team could make a good follow-up game, I'm not sure even they could replicate the original from scratch... Flukes and mistakes contributed to its feel and even charm, you can't fake that or call it up on demand. Even the guys that made Fallout 2 could not exactly match the style with their new assets, and they stick out rather obviously.

Better to leave it untinkered with IMO; and as we know... current day market concerns would trump fidelity, intent, and gameplay in such a way as to ruin aspects of it utterly. (IMO)
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:17 am

I don't understand the extent of rage it's not like he said we should have anew jesus when should we start auditioning,ohh i like the mexican.If it was third person then say goodbye to the old combmat system.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 5:58 pm

I don't understand the extent of rage it's not like he said we should have anew jesus when should we start auditioning,ohh i like the mexican.If it was third person then say goodbye to the old combmat system.
How do you mean? The old combat system was third person; I mean... not OTS, but it was TPP. :shrug:
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 2:44 pm

i would like it remastered, not remade. and fo2 would have to have what was included in the restoration pack. if the graphics were cleaner, and the combat system a little tighter (i love turn based combat, but some battles took forever waiting for every character to move and due to the view angle, some enemies were near impossible to see) that would be ok, but the major caveat is this: don't ever touch the story, dialogue, environment, or the quests...they are perfect as they are. and i would not like it in first person or on this horrid game engine called gamebryo.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 6:52 am

How do you mean? The old combat system was third person; I mean... not OTS, but it was TPP. :shrug:
Well i suppose but it would be a bit more valkiyra chronicles then fallout. As in over the shoulder then birds eye veiw.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 9:31 am

Witcher (1) had two functional 3d-Isometric modes in addition to the OTS mode; A big disappointment that this was omitted in Witcher 2. (Marred the game IMO).

Dragon age 2 got rid of Origins optional ISO view as well, but that was only one thing in a long list of problems that made DAII awful.

I dont understand why developers are using ISO view less and less, especially in an RPG like DA where Area Effect abilities are abundant.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 7:40 pm

Dragon age 2 got rid of Origins optional ISO view as well, but that was only one thing in a long list of problems that made DAII awful.

I dont understand why developers are using ISO view less and less, especially in an RPG like DA where Area Effect abilities are abundant.
If I were to guess... Its a want of the competitor's customers, but in an irrational way. It would appear to me that its not too unlike a "Pizza by the slice" vendor selling next to a Baskin Robbins, and seeing the crowds their neighbor get's selling Ice Cream, has them adding sherbet and pineapple bits to their deluxe pizza with sprinkles.
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Post » Tue May 08, 2012 10:48 am

Bethesda remaking the Holy Original Interplay Fallouts?

The exploding-head index over at Duck & Cover would be off the freaking charts...
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