What is your thoughts regarding Talos?

I believe the very thought of Talos is foolish.

And Talos happens to be three people, Wulfharth, Tiber Septim and Zurin Arctus, that ended up in the entiamorphic event which created Talos the God.

I'm pretty sure that the LDB will join with Talos, what with performing the same events and well

Thank you everybody, I now understand fully about Talos, however I do believe in what the Altmeri Society believe as for I see all races of man on Tamriel are extremely racist.

Isn't labeling entire races as racist racist in and of itself?

Talos was a Shezzarine. The points add up, Cider. There's only one letter left until Lorkhan's name is finished, then who knows.

Maybe that final shout will throw open the gates to Sovngarde and Shor will stir from the metaphysical to the immortal.

Yeah, men should all be destroyed. But I think the tiger-people of Akavir should rule, not the elves.

I think it's very significant that LDB

Personally, I'm more inclined to believe that if anything, we mantled Alduin. I see a lot more parallels between the actions of the Last Dragonborn and the Firstborn of Akatosh than I do the Last Dragonborn and Talos.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:The_Ghost_of_Old_Hroldan

later, cider.

Old Hroldan : "go talk to the ghost who is obviously confusing you with someone else".

Isn't it :

1. Wulfharth L
2. Hjalti O
3. Ysmir R
4. Talos K
5. Arctus H
6. Septim A
New Man (the Amaranth)?

You speak about Talos, Ysmir, and Lorkhan as if they're highly distinct entities. I'm not so sure about that.

Did the CoC really make Sheogorath "walk like him?" As of Skyrim, he's back to being the same old Sheogorath. And now suggesting that there's a distinction between the CoC and Sheogorath seems fallacious.

And Talos may be "missing." That is the goal of the Thalmor at least, and "they're going to win in the end" (maybe).

I just think too little is being made of this whole Alduin thing. Like he's just some monster-of-the-week who appeared in Skyrim so LDB could slay him.

The game may be light on "serious" lore, but the implications are arguably much greater than those of any previous game.

I really hope they don't just say "Alduin is dead, end of story." I suppose neither DLC really gives the LDB the same significance that the Oblivion DLC gave the CoC, but I think the main quest of Skyrim is of greater "scope" than the main quest of Oblivion.

He's a really awesome god, I really enjoy the thought of a man becoming a god. So that other men may follow him become great. Not immediatly as a god, but great as itself.

It is isn't it?

In my opinion the only races fit to rule are the Imperials and the Tsaesci. First of all, the Imperials are the least racist of all the races of Tamriel. They at least try to work with the other races. After millennia of anymosity between Men and Mer they are finally able to become friends in the third era. The fact that Ocato, an Altmer, is the leader of the Elder Council is a testimony to that. As for the Tsaesci, this is just a theory, but I believe they absorb conquered cultures in a similar fashion to the Protheans from Mass Effect. That would explain what became of the Men of Akavir. They weren't eaten, but rather conquered and absorbed into the Tsaesci culture. That would also explain why the ghost of the Tsaesci general at Pale Pass looks like a human. If my theory is true then the Tsaesci is less racist than other races because they doesn't treat conquered races as second class citizens, nor do they enslave them. They become Tsaesci, with every rights that follows.

Given that every society in Tamriel can be considered racist, be they human, elven or that of the beast races, I'd be careful to throw such accusations towards any specific group.

The third song of King Wulfharth tells of his death. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Orkey, an enemy god, had always tried to ruin the Nords, even in Atmora where he stole their years away. Seeing the strength of King Wulfharth, Orkey summoned the ghost of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Alduin Time-Eater again. Nearly every Nord was eaten down to six years old. Boy Wulfharth pleaded to Shor, the dead Chieftain of the Gods, to help his people. Shor's own ghost then fought the Time-Eater on the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Aetherius, as he did at the beginning of time, and he won, and Orkey's folk, the Orcs, were ruined. As Boy Wulfharth watched the battle in the sky he learned a new thu'um, What Happens When You Shake the Dragon Just So. He used this new magic to change his people back to normal. In his haste to save so many, though, he shook too many years out on himself. He grew older than the http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Greybeards, and died. The flames of his pyre were said to have reached the hearth of Kyne itself.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Five_Songs_of_King_Wulfharth

Altough the most recent god, he is still one and worthy of worship. The Thalmor may try to bring him down, and the Empire may have made the mistake of banning him (even though under swords edge). I reckon most in the Empire regard him a god, and worship him still in secret. When the war with the dominion start getting warm again, Talos worship would be the first to become legal again.

Lolwut.

Let me try real hard to make the sequence simple, but the long explanation can be found http://www.imperial-library.info/content/arcturian-heresy-0, which is a great read anyway.

Ysmir, the Dragon of the North, fought against Nerevar and the Tribunal in ancient times, twice. The first war was the Northmen vs. the Chimer, precursors to the Dark Elves, and the Dwemer allied. During the War of the first council he returned when the Dwemer fought against the Chimer who then became the Dark Elves, yet that is a long time for a human to live, so in my opinion someone else became Ysmir in the interim.

Some time later, Hjalti Early-Beard became Ysmir atop the Throat of the World and he, Zurin Arctus, Wulfarth and possibly Culecain became Talos by acting out the creation of the universe amongst themselves, although as this requires betrayal and violence the Imperials sanitize him much as the Dunmer sanitized ALMSIVI.

Then in Skyrim the Dragonborn became Ysmir atop the Throat of the World and he, General Tullius, Ulfric and possibly (Rikke/Galmar) become Talos by acting out the creation of the universe amongst themselves. Then in Skyrim the Dragonborn became Ysmir atop the Throat of the World and he, Alduin, Paarthurnax and possibly Odahviing become Akatosh by acting out the creation of the universe amongst themselves.

There are people who frequent the lore forum who can explain that in more detail and more clearly, and can point out any mistakes I've made. I think this thread should be there anyway.