Regarding Worldviews

Post » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:00 am

Why is it that most discussion surrounding the Aedra and Lorkhan assume an Elven worldview? That the Aedra were tricked by Lorkhan? What's so wrong about the Imperial view? I mean sure, it's an Alessian political ass-pull, but what's so wrong about the idea of the Aedra willingly going along with Lorkhan's Creation even knowing it would kill/weaken them?

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Post » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:26 pm

I assume it is mostly out of respect for chronology. Elves had writing and such prior to Men, so the earlier account is probably closer to being correct. That said, history being correct doesn't count for much when you can disbelieve it out of existence.

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Post » Tue Jan 14, 2014 2:42 pm

I'd wager that Aldmeri accounts may not exactly mesh now with the current Altmeri world view, as they themselves went under a religious mutation that actually can be traced back thanks the (Now destroyed) Crystal Tower.

Lorkhan as a trickster deity may still be present, its wholly possible that he isn't as vilified as present day Altmeri society would have you believe. Funny how the modern Thalmor decided to creep in when the last testament to who the Aldmer were as a people finally crumbled.

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Post » Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:40 pm

Funny how the Altmer are so caught up in the past. I'd say that's probably the most divisive issue in the Aurbis: Should we reach for the final subgradient, or should we aspire to return to a higher subgradient? The Thalmor are all about the latter, and Lorkhan is the whole reason for the former. Therefore he has to die once and for all for them to win.

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Post » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:16 pm

I don't know that we insist that Lorkhan tricked the Aedra, but as far as I know it's pretty much certain that (regardless of why they took Lorkhan up on his offer) the Aedra changed their minds after the deed was done. We don't really care how they came to be in that position, but we are definitely aware that they did not like the position they were in when they turned on Lorkhan. I don't remember any post that specifically states that Lorkhan tricked the Aedra as opposed to the other options, unless the post is specifically discussing the Aldmeri worldview.

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Post » Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:42 pm

To be quite honest there's too much vilification of Lorkhan overall in my opinion. You would think the being whose actions led to the coming of man would be a really big part of the pantheons of the human races, but at least from what I've seen, Lorkhan is very underappreciated by humanity.
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Post » Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:32 pm

What I'm wondering is, why do we insist that the Aedra changed their minds? I'm not so sure that we actually know that happened, I just see a lot of assuming that it happened that way.

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Post » Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:36 pm

Humans don't recognize "Lorkhan". They recognize Shezzar and Shor, who fill similar roles, and are quite appreciated... Shor especially, though Shezzar not as much (thanks, Talos).
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Post » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:15 pm

Shor/Lorkhan/Shezzar are dead gods anyway, hence why Talos is around in the first place. All mortals remember the Space Gods role/death in creation, but by virtue of being dead, is not actively exalted because of it.

Except for that Priestess of Lorkhan in Whiterun mentioned by the 3rd PGE. Man I would've liked to see where that could've went.

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