Religion

Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:53 am

What faith would you follow in the wastes?

Edit: Fixed Poll, my apologies.
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Schel[Anne]FTL
 
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Post » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:27 pm

Followers. Due to the fact they are closest to my real religion.
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noa zarfati
 
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Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:03 am

From what I know about them? Pfffft, None. Even in real life, I don't follow any organized religion-I'm agnostic. And I'd continue to follow that philosophy in the situation of the Fallout series'(is that grammatically correct?) setting. Plus, with the Children of Adam, they are worshiping an extremely dangerous bomb leaking radiation....yeah. Not to say religions don't do weird crap in real life, and we often just accept it as the norm, but most don't worship being (essentially) destroyed. With exception to some who believe (and, in my opinion sadly/frustratingly, hope for) Armageddon, or things like Hell(only they're not really worshiping the idea of actually wanting to go there).
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Alycia Leann grace
 
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Post » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:44 pm

Based solely on Fallout 1 or Fallout in general?

In Fallout 1 I'd go with Children of the Cathedral and try to find a cure for super mutant sterility.

In general I'd go with Treeminders in order to protect Harold.
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Kat Lehmann
 
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Post » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:54 pm

I'm not even sure The Brotherhood of Steel are a religion.
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Kate Murrell
 
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Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:36 am

Why no choice of Hubology?

The Followers of the Apocolypse aren't really a faith.
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Jaki Birch
 
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Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:15 am

Maybe it should be "Religion and Ideology".
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Red Sauce
 
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Post » Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:14 pm

The Saint Monica's church if I had to, mainly because it's normal :P
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Aliish Sheldonn
 
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Post » Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:58 pm

The Saint Monica's church if I had to, mainly because it's normal :P

Normal?
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Stacy Hope
 
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Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:49 am

Normal?


I think he means that its normal in the sense that its the only religion that seems to be recognizable as a real life religion. Saint Monica's church seems to be representative of a variety of Christian faiths but more or less represents the remnants of the Catholic church, (given that in Point Lookout Marcella mentions "breaking bread" with Father Cliford and that she herself is from an Abbey). So its clear that St. Monica's church at least is hinted at being a christian church and therefore the most "normal".
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Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:51 am

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Reaver_Movement :mohawk:
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Alan Cutler
 
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Post » Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:29 pm

Abbey of the Road- A Christian abbey located somewhere in the east.
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Miranda Taylor
 
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Post » Thu Apr 07, 2011 5:25 pm

I think he means that its normal in the sense that its the only religion that seems to be recognizable as a real life religion. Saint Monica's church seems to be representative of a variety of Christian faiths but more or less represents the remnants of the Catholic church, (given that in Point Lookout Marcella mentions "breaking bread" with Father Cliford and that she herself is from an Abbey). So its clear that St. Monica's church at least is hinted at being a christian church and therefore the most "normal".


Pretty much this along with the facts that they don't worship an unexploded bomb, follow the master, believe we are plagued with neurodynes, etc. :P
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Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:45 am

Pretty much this along with the facts that they don't worship an unexploded bomb, follow the master, believe we are plagued with neurodynes, etc. :P

I'd point out a few "Silly/abnormal things" with Christianity, but that would be against the rules... but as their book says "Judge not..."
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Post » Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:51 pm

Frankly, I find it ridiculous that we can't discuss real-life religion here. Threads like that would just need heavy-duty moderation. But that's just my (correct) opinion.

I voted BoS, even though they're not a religion. :confused: If I had to join a faction in the Wastes, I'd join them. As far as actual religions go, I'd go with the Saint Monica's Church as well, seeing as it's the only religion in the Wastes that makes any sense whatsoever.
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Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:27 am

Frankly, I find it ridiculous that we can't discuss real-life religion here. Threads like that would just need heavy-duty moderation. But that's just my (correct) opinion.

Exaclty. Heavy duty moderation by Mods who are complete volunteers and cant be counted on to provide 24/7 coverage. I've seen a few threads on banned topics go out of hand simply because the mods aren't awake, or are playing that "Real World" game that I've never understood the attraction of.
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Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:57 am

Hermetic Order of the Atomic Dawn. We have LSD magic!

I wouldn't be a Christian, in the Fallout universe. Unless Harold is Jesus.
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Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:25 am

I'd point out a few "Silly/abnormal things" with Christianity, but that would be against the rules... but as their book says "Judge not..."


I don't really care, not religious in real life and wouldn't be in the wasteland either :P
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Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:54 am

Not to try and discuss religion or anything, but are the Followers of the Apocalypse meant to be descendants of the religion from which their fort in Freeside takes its name?
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Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:28 am

I don't really care, not religious in real life and wouldn't be in the wasteland either :P


Ah, but have you ever been in a post apocalyptic world, or been born into one? ;)

we'd all like to think we'd stay high and mighty or sensible, but somehow I feel my knowledge of classical civilisation I possess in real life would be slightly non-exsistant If I lived in a world of death and barbarity.
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Post » Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:12 pm

St Monicas, normailist religion in game also I get good karma for donating and I like good karma.
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Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:08 am

Frankly, I find it ridiculous that we can't discuss real-life religion here. Threads like that would just need heavy-duty moderation. But that's just my (correct) opinion.

Yep. You answered your own question, there. We don't allow real-world religious discussion here because
  • Nothing is guaranteed to start a flame war of epic proportions like religion is.
  • We don't want to have to spend that much time playing hall-monitor to something like that one what is still a videogame forum.


I don't see any particular issue with having a thread like this, however. So long as it stays on-topic and doesn't verge into making value judgments about real-world beliefs. This is a thread about discussing in-game religions, and not a soap-box for people to further their own agendas. (Haven't seen any of that, yet, but I'm putting it out there so that I can say "I told you so" later on...)
I'd point out a few "Silly/abnormal things" with Christianity, but that would be against the rules... but as their book says "Judge not..."

This I'm keeping as an example of where things cross the line. Clearly, you're saying that you find there to be some "silly/abnormal things" with "Christianity." Now, that's not unheard of, there's nothing wrong with feeling that way, and I'm even sure a number of Christians would agree with you, there. But there's also no reason to bring that up, here. All it takes is for one person to see that post; take it as bait, for this whole thread to get de-railed into people flaming about different beliefs.
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Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:21 am

Not to try and discuss religion or anything, but are the Followers of the Apocalypse meant to be descendants of the religion from which their fort in Freeside takes its name?

No, they're an organisation that grew out of some of the decendants of the LA demonstration vault.
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Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:14 am

No, they're an organisation that grew out of some of the decendants of the LA demonstration vault.

Ah, thanks for the clarification.
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Post » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:31 am

Pretty much this along with the facts that they don't worship an unexploded bomb, follow the master, believe we are plagued with neurodynes, etc. :P


You're saying the beliefs/practices are weird, or abnormal, in certain (or sometimes, I'm guessing, all) ways. And this was one point where I think I'd maintain my own current beliefs and absence of organized religion-because I'd agree, some of the stuff is far out there(and, in at least some of the cases I know of, a tad too destructive/hopeful for destruction for my tastes). But don't forget that in society all religions/ideologies/beliefs, organized or not, tend to have "quirks" or "abnormalities" of some sort-we just accept them as the norm. Likely people born into a situation would act similarly-sure some would genuinely find it all very stupid and/or pointless, but it would be likely there'd also be some who were completely fine with it/agreed with it. Plus, ignorance would be more predominant in society most of the time, so common sense would be less likely to enter the picture as often as you'd think it ought to. (Not trying to talk about actual religions here, just making a point on beliefs existent in the wasteland and how people might look at it in their current situations and environments, based on human behavior and such. =])

Though I always thought many of the religions sprouted up in the Fallout universe were sort of mock-religions for comedic effect alone, and weren't really meant to be taken seriously. Not enough to even consider having a character of a player's worship those ones. Though I don't really know the ones from Fallout 1 or 2, aside from that their names are vaguely familiar to me. =\

And the Master wasn't entirely insane in his actions, from the little I know about the original Fallouts. His idea had SOME reasoning/logic behind them, he just didn't know mutants are sterile and such. And was, to say the least, a bit extreme.

If I was born into the wasteland, rather than just surviving the Great War(in which I doubt I'd have the logic of "becoming spiritual= guaranteed to save my soul/rump," as I'm a bit of a skeptical person), I'm not really sure what I'd be. Probably whatever I was brought up to believe-and if that was nothing in particular, I'd probably either go with whatever seemed to be the most productive, or be totally atheist. It seems, often, people go to the extremes of spirituality in really tough situations-usually resorting to no or crap loads of religious dedication. I really doubt I'd be so special as to not fall in with the typical crowd, unless my hypothetical parent(s)/guardian(s) encouraged being open-minded about the possibilities or somethin'. xd I guess in the case of religion, then, I'd go with the Followers of the Apocalypse? Again, don't really know much about them, but they seem a hell of a lot more productive/sensible than, say, the Children of Atom. Who most, I think, would agree is a bit too crazy for even the more desperate of people.
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