(Relz) Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul 1.33 : IV - Oblivion

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:46 am

Wow - just started a pure mage. I'm having a really hard time with it in Vilverin and even on the roads. One NPC enemy is a challenge. Two and I'm dead. Any tips? Is this simply a job for the difficulty slider?

http://http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1088301-beginners-tips-for-ooo/

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:38 am

i've seen that this has been told before, but without any answer so i try again. I'm doing the Slavers and Smugglers quest and i sided with the slavers. But once i killed the 3 captains of the Black Marsh faction nothing change. No one want to trade with me or give me a new mission or do something else. Do i have to give up and leave the quest incomplete?

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:04 pm

i've seen that this has been told before, but without any answer so i try again. I'm doing the Slavers and Smugglers quest and i sided with the slavers. But once i killed the 3 captains of the Black Marsh faction nothing change. No one want to trade with me or give me a new mission or do something else. Do i have to give up and leave the quest incomplete?

That's the OOO questline I know least about as I've only done it once - the very first time I played OOO. So I'm no help at all with questions/issues regarding it. Hopefully someone else knows more. Checking the OOO Spoilers page I noticed that you can only trade with the leader of the Blackmarsh Smugglers if choosing that path, so perhaps it's the same with the slavers - that you only can trade with their leader?

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:45 pm

That's the OOO questline I know least about as I've only done it once - the very first time I played OOO. So I'm no help at all with questions/issues regarding it. Hopefully someone else knows more. Checking the OOO Spoilers page I noticed that you can only trade with the leader of the Blackmarsh Smugglers if choosing that path, so perhaps it's the same with the slavers - that you only can trade with their leader?

i can trade with no one xD and the quest won't update, just says that after i've killed the 3 cap. the slavers should now trust in me

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:55 pm

That quest is 'open-ended', in that there is no final resolution. I think it is quite easy to confuse it by taking actions that follow both paths, and so end up without either faction being friendly enough to trade with you. In at least one of my games, in attempting to rescue/support the Argonians, the ingrates attacked me the instant they saw me; and even though I released their prisoners, the Slavers still trade with me. :shrug: So I think it may be an excellent candidate for Shadowborn to look at, at some point.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:05 pm

That quest is 'open-ended', in that there is no final resolution. I think it is quite easy to confuse it by taking actions that follow both paths, and so end up without either faction being friendly enough to trade with you. In at least one of my games, in attempting to rescue/support the Argonians, the ingrates attacked me the instant they saw me; and even though I released their prisoners, the Slavers still trade with me. :shrug: So I think it may be an excellent candidate for Shadowborn to look at, at some point.

ok i agree but...i have 100% disposition with any of them (includind the leader) so there isn't any reason that doesn't let them trade with me.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:14 pm

Hi,

I am using OOO 1.34b5, Cobl, and Alternate Start Arrive By Ship. It's been a while since I last played, so I might be wrong here, but should there be options for OOO in the Cobl options in-game menu? I can't find the lockpicking/lockbashing options (that let you choose if you can pick or bash locks in combat) in there. I assume it's got to do with my Alternate Start mod, so I was wondering if there's a console command available that will perform OOO's startup options dealie for me.

I'm using the LITE install with most of the options enabled, and everything else seems to be fine, just that there is no OOO options in my Cobl menu.

So if there's a console command that will add these "items", I'd appreciate the help. Thanks for reading,

Bubbinska

» Sat May 28, 2011 4:21 pm

The latest version of COBL supports OOO version 1.34, which doesn't support the lite version of the mod (see the opening post re 1.34)
Highly possible that's where your issue is coming from.
As for OOO console commands they are too numerous to list here but are all contained in the http://devnull.sweetdanger.net/OOO/OOO_133_readme.pdf also linked in the OP.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:35 am

Hi,

I am using OOO 1.34b5, Cobl, and Alternate Start Arrive By Ship. It's been a while since I last played, so I might be wrong here, but should there be options for OOO in the Cobl options in-game menu? I can't find the lockpicking/lockbashing options (that let you choose if you can pick or bash locks in combat) in there. I assume it's got to do with my Alternate Start mod, so I was wondering if there's a console command available that will perform OOO's startup options dealie for me.

I'm using the LITE install with most of the options enabled, and everything else seems to be fine, just that there is no OOO options in my Cobl menu.

So if there's a console command that will add these "items", I'd appreciate the help. Thanks for reading,

Bubbinska

What Shikishima said about the LITE version. Also, you need OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp to get access to the OOO options via the Cobl menu.

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:28 am

... you need OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp to get access to the OOO options via the Cobl menu.

Thanks, that was the problem. I enabled that .esp (which I had for some reason forgot to add), BOSS'd, rebuilt my bashed patch and it's now working. I don't seem to have any compatibility issues between Cobl 1.72 and OOO 1.34 b5 LITE, but maybe I just haven't noticed them. Thanks for the help

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:01 pm

Thanks, that was the problem. I enabled that .esp (which I had for some reason forgot to add), BOSS'd, rebuilt my bashed patch and it's now working. I don't seem to have any compatibility issues between Cobl 1.72 and OOO 1.34 b5 LITE, but maybe I just haven't noticed them. Thanks for the help

When was the 1.34b5 LITE version released? What???

Edit: Wow, Shikishima made sure no one would miss the downloads, haha. ^____^

Edit: ...or the ReadMe ^____^

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:09 pm

Thanks, that was the problem. I enabled that .esp (which I had for some reason forgot to add), BOSS'd, rebuilt my bashed patch and it's now working. I don't seem to have any compatibility issues between Cobl 1.72 and OOO 1.34 b5 LITE, but maybe I just haven't noticed them. Thanks for the help

Nice that you got it working but not sure what you mean with "OOO 1.34 b5 LITE" as there is no lite variant of it. The last lite variant came bundled with OOO 1.33, which means that those who want to play OOO with the latest MMM or UFCOM can't use OOO lite - as both MMM and FCOM requires OOO 1.34 b5. Hm, that sounded more complicated than it is.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:53 pm

I'm having a problem with one of the OOO quest dungeons. The dungeon is Narind, the one that is used for the quest to get the Braided Armor. When I try to enter the second level (I think it's called Narind Vin-something) I crash after 5 seconds. This crash does not happen anywhere else in the game, and it happens no matter which door I use to get the the second level (The second door is only accessible when I TCL through a gate).

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:18 pm

I'm having a problem with one of the OOO quest dungeons. The dungeon is Narind, the one that is used for the quest to get the Braided Armor. When I try to enter the second level (I think it's called Narind Vin-something) I crash after 5 seconds. This crash does not happen anywhere else in the game, and it happens no matter which door I use to get the the second level (The second door is only accessible when I TCL through a gate).

Post your load order via Wrye Bash. I've done Narind several times with both OOO 1.33 and 1.34 Beta 5 w/o issues, so it might be something else affecting it perhaps.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:02 pm

Spoiler

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I use BOSS with the most recent Masterlist, so it's probably a problem with incompatible mods and not load order.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:13 pm

++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]

remove MMM more passive wildlife buggy

Update Item Interchange to version .78

rebuild patch and see if happens once again.

i do not see anything in your load order that could affect Narind itself. (nothing from FCOM touches it all either)

» Sat May 28, 2011 5:36 pm

i do not see anything in your load order that could affect Narind itself. (nothing from FCOM touches it all either)

Not me either. All enemies are from OOO, as well as the added items there. Weird. I'd follow Corepc's advice and you might also double check the OOO install, although you probably should have noticed something earlier if it wasn't correctly installed. In short, no idea what's going on.

EDIT: Just tried it and it loads fine in my game. And we have rather similar mod lists as well. Hm.

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:05 am

I just started playing Oblivion again and when I have this mod enabled I have an issue with opening outside containers. When I click on one, the animation to open it starts and does not complete. I had this problem before, I do not remember what the work around was to resolve it. I tried researching this forum to see if the answer was still available and was unable to find it.

Also, when I was re-downloading 000, I attempted to access the online readme several times. Each and every time, I got load error messages from Adobe Acrobat reader. The readme included in the download works just fine.

I don't have wrye bash, I do have BOSS and OBMM. I am still figuring out how to find a load order that I can copy and paste.

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:33 pm

I don't have wrye bash, I do have BOSS and OBMM. I am still figuring out how to find a load order that I can copy and paste.

In OBMM left click IMPORT/EXPORT, left click VIEW LOAD ORDER, select all, copy/paste

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:32 pm

I just started playing Oblivion again and when I have this mod enabled I have an issue with opening outside containers. When I click on one, the animation to open it starts and does not complete. I had this problem before, I do not remember what the work around was to resolve it. I tried researching this forum to see if the answer was still available and was unable to find it.

Also, when I was re-downloading 000, I attempted to access the online readme several times. Each and every time, I got load error messages from Adobe Acrobat reader. The readme included in the download works just fine.

I don't have wrye bash, I do have BOSS and OBMM. I am still figuring out how to find a load order that I can copy and paste.

Double check the install, i.e. that you have 1.33 Complete correctly installed - patched to 1.34 beta5.

I'd recommend installing Wrye Bash - it gives the best load order as it has version numbers as well. Plus it's more or less a necessary utility anyway when using many mods.

The online PDF works fine for me. Guess it might be related to your browser visavi Acrobat reader rather.

» Sun May 29, 2011 1:29 am

Double check the install, i.e. that you have 1.33 Complete correctly installed - patched to 1.34 beta5.

I'd recommend installing Wrye Bash - it gives the best load order as it has version numbers as well. Plus it's more or less a necessary utility anyway when using many mods.

The online PDF works fine for me. Guess it might be related to your browser visavi Acrobat reader rather.

I will double check the install Arkingt. However, since the patch is not compatible with Lite, I did not bother installing it. Unless that has changed I will not be installing it.

That last time I tried installing Wryebash I was unable to do it. I'm not sure I want to go through that again.

I'm suspecting my ISP might be the culprit with the pdf issues, I will double check now that I have had yet more trouble shooting done by them and the problem was on their end.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:02 am

I will double check the install Arkingt. That last time I tried installing Wryebash I was unable to do it. I'm not sure I want to go through that again.

OK, when you have checked - post your load order via OBMM as described by Tofolo above.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:50 pm

OK, when you have checked - post your load order via OBMM as described by Tofolo above.

The only change I made in the load order since my last posting was to move TUR gem dust lower than Shadow's merged value fixes because Shadow's price fixes conflict with the values set in the gem dust mod. I had missed the 133b patch for lite so I installed that, ran the game and that did not fix the problem.

I am running the Lite version which is not supported by the 1.34 patch. I have not installed that patch for that reason.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:48 pm

The only change I made in the load order since my last posting...

Unless I'm blind you haven't posted the load order.

Also, are you sure you're really having an issue? Containers tend to open only slightly with HC, although it of course differs between different kinds.

» Sat May 28, 2011 8:20 pm

Unless I'm blind you haven't posted the load order.

You aren't blind. I thought I had, but the computer went through an auto update that involved a restart and that didn't go through. Here it is.

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Oblivion.esm
Jog_X_Mod.esm
Children Of Rourken.esm
Cobl Main.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
CM Partners.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Book Collection.esp
SigilStonesixpanded1.5.esp
Cobl Glue.esp
Cobl Si.esp
Cobl Tweaks.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp
Artefacts of the Ancestors.esp
COR-Episode1 Secret of Enourk.esp
Gift of Kynareth.esp
JolardHome.esp
EiAmod.esp
LostSwordOfTheAylied.esp
Quest For The Elements.esp
The Ayleid Steps.esp
thievery.esp
Knights.esp
RTT.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
HeartOftheDead.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
KT_KhajEyeToggleNoEff.esp
Shadow's Balance Price Fixv2.0.esp
Shadow's Merged Value Fixesv2.0.esp
TUR_GemDust.esp
BoneGrind.esp
Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp
Kobu's 10x Slower Jack-of-All-Trades Mod.esp
Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp
DaMage's_Eye_Pack.esp
bgBalancingEVCore.esp
bgMagicEV.esp
bgIntegrationEV.esp
Illumination.esp
AlfheimrV2.esp
Forgrum's Travelogue v2.0.esp
Mirror-7984.esp
The 8 Rings of Gods.esp
Triple_magicka-7315.esp
Spirit BS.esp
Starterchest.esp
CavernsofCloudRulerTemple.esp

I am going to try switching to the full install for OOO without and then with the latest patch and see if that makes a difference.