I swear in those dungeons (the man made ones with the greyish stone) they were ALL identicle. I hope in skyrim they arent as repetitive :/

Oblivion had one dungeon designer. Skyrim has eight. There are fewer dungeons in Skyirm as well. All this means that each dungeon you go to will be unique and different.

Well that pretty much explains it Thanks. Where did you get this information?

While I do agree that a few things can be done about that, don't count on it too much.

If you want there to be more than 10 dungeons in the game there will always need to be some repetition since the dungeons are designed with kit pieces.



It's unlikely that any devs are actually reading this suggestion, but there should really be multiple texture sets for each dungeon piece, so you can change the "grey stone" texture into a black cobble texture, or liekwise turn normal cave walls from "generic grey stone" into limestone or dirt or something. I don't see why we can't have quantity AND quality in each dungeon, change up those color palletes and texture shemes! I do prefer having more dungeons even if they are repetitive, as apposed to just a couple of unique dungeons. You guys may like to spend a week tops playing the game, but I like the fact that I've logged nearly 400 hours in Oblivion and Morrowind and there's still many places I haven't seen.

I think it was in one of the mags but i don't remember exactly.

Instead of one guy making 200+ dungeons, you have 8 making 10-20 dungeons each.

Remember Skyrim is a different game?

No place with be like the other alike.
This counts for dungeons, cities, environments, everything.

Supposedly, the uniqueness and detail in level design is outstanding, even "microscopic"

Really, they were all identical? Because that's incredibly wrong. Every single dungeon was different.

Sure, not all of them had something really unique and interesting going on, but they were all designed differently, they had different traps, some of them had stories involved that weren't quest-related, some of them had little puzzles here and there. Saying they were all identical is an EXTREME exaggeration.

That said, of course I'd welcome an even bigger difference between each dungeon, and with more dungeon developers, I don't think it's something that should be a concern.

In other words...there will be more variety between the dungeons :yes:

While OP wrote identical, that's not what he originally meant I think.
I think he meant that they felt identical.

To me they did. They felt pretty much the same, more or less.
After playing Oblivion for a while, every time I saw a dungeon when exploring I was like "Nah... why would I wanna go in there, it's just like all the other dungeons. Nothing special or unique. All feels the same."
Only unique ones were quest related, which you got over pretty fast to be honest.

Yes exactly, I can't remember which of the podcasts it was where they talked specifically about this - how all of the ruins in Oblivion looked like they were made the same year, and how they have put much more work into making the ruins and dungeons much more unique, more ancient, more weathered. I think we are going to be pleasantly pleased on this count!

I agree in a way but IMO Oblivion wasn't that bad in this sense. Caves and built dungeons and buildings can be a bit samey. I hope they don't get too lost on tweaking every smallest detail

This is pretty much how I began to feel, and the leveled loot and lack of hidden unique items just made me care even less.

Oblivion's dungeon layouts were actually excellent.. better than Morrowind's (too small) or Daggerfall's (too big) for sure.

The problem with Oblivion was not the layouts, but the leveling auto-content that made dungeons identical in content and pointless.

Using OOO, dungeons feel A LOT different from each other because they shake up the spawns and treasure, etc.

If there isn't going to be anything valuable inside a treasure chest, don't have them at all. Fewer treasure chests, better loot.

Oblivion's dungeons DID look alot like one another. There have been many occasions while playing that I wondered, "Haven't I already been in this dungeon? Oh wait, no I haven't, my map is blank, which means I haven't explored this one yet." yes, I though they did look alot alike

The leveled scaling appears to have been one of the biggest gripes about Oblivion. I cannot argue this point because I agree that it was a problem...a problem that hopefully won't be repeated again.

That, and there were essentially only three kinds of dungeons; Ayleid ruins, the ruined forts, and caves. Most of which were filled with either undead, necromancers ( + more undead), or generic bandits. Then there were a few with animals/monsters, and a cave for each goblin tribe. So pretty much all your enemies had the same strategy, run at you and hit you, except for necromancers who occasionally used ranged spells, and the rare bandit archer.

Anyway, despite what I was just talking about the dull feeling was mostly due to the leveled content and lack of unique items and creatures.

Agreed. That, if anything, is what made the dungeons of Oblivion repetitive at all. The layout was good, but with no unique treasure and the fact that you'd typically clear the entire dungeon with next to nothing to show for your efforts then there isn't a lot of reason to go in.

Oblivion's dungeon's were great and fun to explore, it was just the lack of Set Items and different enemies that made it feel like huh I'm not really getting the enjoyment that I usually should get if I explore a dungeon. You only had a couple dungeons in Oblivion like Veyond Cave that were Unique. I hope to see more Veyond Cave type dungeons without the water of course :biggrin:

No I don't remember because they weren't all identical to me.

After playing Oblivion for a while it got annoying that every dungeon looked basically the same. What bothered me even more though was that only 2 or 3 dungeons acctually had a reward at the end. most dungeons were just packed with monsters and random generated treasure which almost always failed.

What do youguys think about this?

That was my biggest problem with Oblivions Dungeons. Some of them like Mingo (Censored) Cave or Boreal Stone Cave were wasted. Those locations were a joke especially Mingo (Censored) Cave. That dungeon still gets me angry every time I pass by it. :brokencomputer: :brokencomputer: :brokencomputer:

Oblivion had some unique dungeons like Veyond Cave or Echo Cave but most of them were kind of standard, fun to explore but standard in nature. I hope Skyrim changes that.

They have 8 people working on them, instead of one like with Oblivion. Also they have said due to some kind of thing that no two dungeons will be alike. They will all be crazy and unique.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/02/08/skyrim-has-a-hand-crafted-world-with-no-two-areas-alike/