Remember Tycho? He was a Npc that came from Nevada. Tycho's grandfather was a Desert Ranger (the Desert Rangers are a reference to Wasteland, a 1980s game which is considered to be Fallout's predecessor. Tycho also makes a mentions the "fat freak" from Las Vegas, which is a reference to Fat Freddy from Wasteland. I think a antagonist based about "Fat Freddy" would be appropriate.
A better Idea being Las Vegas and all would be one of the Mobster Families from New Reno taking over Las Vegas. I go for the wright Family. In fallout 2 you can help them take control over a pre-war storge facility of weapons and more (biological weapons). So having them be the bad guys for New Vegas would be awesome. They could have moved in and killed off Fat Freddy and now have a mini empire from New Reno to New Vegas with an army of mercenaries armed with pre-war mint weapons and biological weapons. That would be awesome! Who's with me?

I don't know if you heard, but New Reno was not the most well-liked portion of Fallout 2. I doubt New Vegas is going to be an extension of it. Not to mention the fact that half of New Reno's content would be unacceptable to Bethesda, considering their reluctance to deal with sixual themes in F3.

Also connections to Wasteland would be unlikely since that's still Interplay property, as far as I know.

I thought Bethesda bought all rights to Fallout, Including fallout 1 and 2 as well as tactics and anything else Fallout. I enjoyed New Reno I don't see anything bad with it. Bethesda needs to grow a pair and make their games more like Black Isle studios did. What was wrong with having six in the other fallout games. What in the future there will be no prostitution no six at all? In a world were people will do anything it survive they will not go to the extreme of prostitution? Bethesda will have cannibalism but not six?! Bethesda is not helping the fallout universe by changing all that it was built on.

Though it would be great to have "Fat Freddy" in charge of Vegas, it's unlikely that he'd be still alive, since I believe that "New Vegas" takes place post Fallout 2, which would put Fat Freddy in around his 90's/100's. Also, as per Van Buren, the Wright Family wins the mob war, so it would be likely that they branched out into Vegas(since by then they also had some of their wiseguys at the Hoover Dam).

Really!!?!

I loved New Reno! It inspired me to go to Old Reno!

Though it wan't quite the same. :sadvaultboy:

The Judge was also very uncool.

From memory from FO 2, I think the families in New Reno had connections to mob families in Vegas which I'm fairly sure was mentioned by someone in New Reno.

I've been playing FO2 recently and not read anything like that. Anyone else remember any Vegas references?

Only Fallout 1 had any Vegas references, though we do know that the Wright's and their wiseguys were active at Hoover Dam and probably even in Vegas.

I think theres some great parts of New Reno.... But I thinkts its a case of they did go a bit far in some parts....

Can you explain how they went to far with New Reno? I don't see anything wrong with It. In a real wasteland there will be places like that, hell there are places like that in real life. It is just reality. Fallout is an RPG and you are playing the role of a person in a world gone mad people doing anything and everything to live including six, crime and gambling. Gambling is another things missing from F3. If they have New Vegas with no gambling I will be very unhappy with Bethesda. Seems to me people are happy with killing and eating human flesh, SLAVERY, but having gambling and six goes to far? Fallout is M Rated so they can have those things. I am not talking about making a advlt game or anything. in the other fallouts they never showed six but it was implied greatly. Why do people want to play the role of a Ken doll or to be fair barbie doll?

The biggest problem with New Reno in relation to the rest of Fallout 2, was that it felt a bit over-the-top as compared to the rest of settlements. Now as per gambling, six, violence and drug use, those are normal human vices, and honestly I had no qualms with that, though the biggest thing that felt odd, was that multiple large scale casinos still existed.

Well I think the reason that so many Large scale casinos still existing is because a City Like Reno would not be high on the list of cities to Nuke during the war. Pittsburgh is a City that would be on that Nuke list being a center of industry & business. On a personal not if you have no qualms with gambling, six, violence and drug use. I am speaking to all not just to RAmerica here then why not speak out to Bethesda tell them that you would buy a game with that kinda content.

I'm struggling to find the quotes, but I'm sure Chris Avalone gives the Golden Globes as an example of it going over the top.

Don't get me wrong I actually liked Reno, but I think it could have been tighter and better.


Its not really the Game dev companies you need to convince here, its the Wall-Marts.

yeah it has nothing to do with bethesda being PRUDES or whatever at all. videogames aren't this goofy little thing that only nerds play anymore - compare things like CUSTER'S REVENGE or even Daggerfall (which is pretty much packed to the brim with nudity) to the "outcry" caused by the Hot Coffee thing with San Andreas, or the rerating of Oblivion because there was a texture of nipbles in an archive completely inaccessible without third-party software, or Australia threatening to ban Fallout 3 because it had "morphine". there's games like Dragon Age that have straight up six in them, but everybody's completely clothed and it looks hilarious as a result.

games cost a hell of a lot more money to develop today than they did in 1996. developers can't afford to take risks lwith high-profile titles; at the very least they need to break even, which is really hard to do if Walmart or Best Buy refuses to carry your game because it's got a lady's naughty bits in it, or an entire country refuses to even RATE your game because the game contains a word that's on a blacklist somewhere or because people have red blood instead of green.

Game makers should take risks, if they don't all games will be just the samething different story. Wal-mart will sell the latest Unrated "teen-six" Movie Like the American Pie movies. I think Wal-mart will sell anything as long as it is not out right pormographic. If the game is rated right and has a parental advisory so parents can desided if they should to let their young teens play it or not. As other post have stated some teens are more mature then others. So as long as parents know what is in the game Wal-mart and others will sell it. If alot of people want the game Wal-mart and other will not want to miss out on a Cash Cow video game. Game Publishers need to step up their advertising, the more "controversial" a game the more advertising they should have so the fans can desided what the stores should sell. Money Speaks louder then any protester "Prude Parental" group.

Wall mart have a well known policy not to stock "advlt Only" game titles.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_40/241-Wal-Mart-Rules

I have been saying all over this Forum that it DOES NOT have to be advlt ONLY! M Rated Covers six Gambling and Drugs. I have not once said that the next Fallout should be advlt. I am not talking about having hardcoe porm in the damn games. Have you even played the other Fallouts! That Level in the others is Fine by me and I would like to see it again in other Fallouts, M Rated would be enough to cover that level of six. F3 you are just playing as a KEN DOLL or a Barbie DOLL!

Not trying to make waves or anything but wouldn't you say that's a matter of opinion? New Reno was by far my favorite city in FO2. I was all excited about FO: NV but I forgot about Bethesda's lack of sixual content. I love FO 3 but it does lack the sixual and comical parts that made the previous games so much fun. Jet was everywhere, so was all kinds of alcohol, why not throw the six in there? We arent asking for porm, rigght?

I could not agree more with you. I hope Bethesda will take a good hard look at New Reno and learn from it. I think Most people want Fallout New Vegas to be like New Reno. From what I have been seeing on this forum, is that people want six in the game but only if it Fade to Black.
Gambling would have to be in it as well.

This Topic was about having "Fat Freddy In New Vegas" or his family. That or One of the 5 families from New Reno.
I think a antagonist based about "Fat Freddy" would be appropriate.
A better Idea being Las Vegas and all would be one of the Mobster Families from New Reno taking over Las Vegas. I go for the wright Family. In fallout 2 you can help them take control over a pre-war storge facility of weapons and more (biological weapons). So having them be the bad guys for New Vegas would be awesome. They could have moved in and killed off Fat Freddy and now have a mini empire from New Reno to New Vegas with an army of mercenaries armed with pre-war mint weapons and biological weapons. That would be awesome! Who's with me?
I think most people would want the Wright Family to run New Reno.



There is a post about having six, drugs and Gambling in Future fallouts.

Hey there - I'm going to lock this one down because we have a New Vegas thread already. Feel free to contribute in that thread.