I personally haven't noticed any real slowdown with all the objects moved - a blacklist of sorts could be useful for keeping certain objects (like rocks) from clipping into interior spaces. It also wouldn't be too hard to set up.

Most interiors in Bruma. That's all I went to.

I'm not a noob. Been playing modded Oblivion since 2006. Tried all kinds of mods. I just think that if a mod is released, it should work half-way correctly. With version 0.92 I tested in Bruma, and every single interior I went into was screwed up. Random meshes floating in the air, the inability to walk throughout the interior cell, etc.

There are warnings in the opening post, in the mod's ReadMe and on TES Nexus that clearly state that this mod, in its current form, will not always work correctly. It's called a work in progress. If you don't like how it functions right now - don't use it.

I know, I read the readme. I meant no offense by what I typed. And you're right: if the mod doesn't do what I want it to, don't use it. Which is exactly what I'm doing -- not using it. I still have it packaged up in my BAIN directory, in hopes that a future version will not be fooked.

I'm hoping that 0.93 will drastically reduce the amount of mesh clipping - I've devised a rather ingenious (if I do say so myself) system for determining if an object is inside the interior mesh or not. It's not perfect, but it's pretty close.

I hope you do get it working correctly. This is shaping up to be a must-have mod for me. Once it gets squared away.

I have been wanting this mod to exist for several years now and it is finally happening. When I asked about something like this being possible it was impossible at the time and now the impossible is becoming reality.

Thank you Reneer.

you're neglecting to take into account that some WIPs really do NEED as many people to test them as possible and report back to the modder. If a mod is announced as fully functioning and just needing a few tweaks, then you should expect it to work half-way correctly. In this case, Reneer wants your help to get the mod to that stage, so if you're willing to keep trying new releases and report back, please do so rather than wait for a fully working release - otherwise there may never be a fully working release if nobody is willing to offer assistance.

Good point.

Reneer's Interiors Mod Update 0.93 Released!

0.93 – Most issues regarding meshes being improperly placed inside interior spaces should be fixed – one issue that still remains is landscape sometimes poking into interior meshes.

Vast improvement. Most of the interiors I checked looked ok. There's still some issues with rocks and trees that are outside near the exterior being copied inside.

It would still be nice to have some way to skip the process if the interior has no windows. I know that's not easy to detect, but in the case of the manor for AFK_Weye, it was putting stuff in the basemant, some of which is still blocking paths. It also placed things on the second and third floors where no windows exist. I don't really know of any other way to check that besides a giant array of meshes with windows, or to do climate detection since AN knows which ones are used in places with windows. I have yet to see what happens when you go into a cave or something that clearly shouldn't be covered.

There's also a curious issue with trees: http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9022/screenshot807p.jpg

It seems to be totally random as to whether you'll see leaves or just bare branches, much like the one outside that window, and the one next to it on the right. If you TCL outside the interior mesh, the leaves are often only viewable from one angle and from the rest all you see are branches.

I have no clue what is up with the trees - I'll look into it.

The basemant issue should be pretty easy to fix - I'll just check to see if the cell's name includes "basemant", though I doubt it will be that easy.

I may be able to figure out which cell is a cave by checking the meshes / the cell name.

Edit: Basemant issue is fixed (checking cell names) for 0.94. Still trying to figure out tree issue. Looking into some possible CS setting values... but the Wiki has no info on them. :/

The one major issue I'm still puzzled about is what to do about buildings that go underground (like the Mages Guild in Bruma) - obviously the landscape mesh will overlap any area that is underground and I may have to figure out if NifSE can properly deal with it, or try to find some other way.

Interiors are much better now with version 0.93. Like you said in the post and readme, exterior meshes are showing up in the interiors. Another thing I noticed: Looking out through windows, sometimes the data and meshes are not what they are supposed to be. I'm still in Bruma, but, for example, looking out through the window in the Fighter's Guild, I saw the castle meshes, not the building meshes that they are supposed to be.

Reneer i have a quick question for ya, how does this work with dungeons and those type interiors? also is anything like weather all natural required? thx

Mind posting a screenshot? When I just went to the Bruma Fighter's Guild I did not see the castle when looking out through any of the windows.

Maybe a bit soon to be asking, but I am curious: will you be implementing anything modders can do to flag their own interiors as having windows or not, without creating any dependencies? For example, checking to see if a particularly obscure vanilla object at a particularly specific scale exists in the cell, or some other such trick?

Since this mod uses OBSE, there are lots of ways this could be accomplished - like placing an invisible item in the interior and naming it "thisinteriorhaswindows"

Well yeah, that's true! Is that a yes? :hubbahubba:

That's a yes.

The only outstanding issue right now is how to deal with third-party mods that modify the landscape - this mod unfortunately has the issue of making the landscape into NIF meshes and adding it into interiors, so any changes to the landscape made by a third-party mod won't appear (yet).

:wub:

I was thinking about something like that too. So if that's easier, and doesn't require the 3rd party mod to have OBSE, that sounds like a good way to handle it assuming one can get enough modders on board. Obviously I'd be on board for that in my own stuff and I'm sure with a bit of nudging Vorians and I could get the ULs in line where applicable.

If you're going to use cell name detection, might I also offer up "cellar" in addition to "basemant" as things to scan for?

Already done.

Does your mod work with the foreign versions of Oblivion? :rolleyes:

I saw a big mesh in the Tiber Septim hotel in the Talos Plaza district, but I was also using the Better Cities mod.
Also, and this may be unrelated, I am unable to travel to other cells of the city from that district; the game crashes to desktop when i attempt to go to the other IC districts or leave the IC.