It looks like sector lighting because it takes the closest 8 lights to render each subsection/tile of interiors, I think caves have the largest sections. Due to the fully dynamic lighting, it can use the wrong statically placed lights sometimes. The falloff option can make it worse if there are multiple floors, because then lights from other floors intersect and some get turned off. The option can also make torches not show up on the large sections. I never really can test this properly, but screwing up torches is worse than the seam reduction it only sometimes manages.



It sets overflow noises to zero volume. Do you get silence instead? Did you note the registry settings thing from the previous thread?

heh, they just seem more visible in my game than in some screenies i see posted. so as not to get too off topic, would you mind PMing me a link to those ini tweaks, or the relivant information itself? much appreciated.

Most likely. The only way I've ever got this problem is my machine-gunning the sell button, so it's pretty hard to distinguish a missing "OMG I'M SELLING [censored]" sound from lag. Unless I counted. Counting svcks



No, but since you asked, it's 95.

Ahh, one of the bugs I find the most irksome. It's so frustrating how close to good and atmospheric the lighting gets with TLM + MCP light falloff + decent light attenuation settings... then along pops a huge seam. My understanding is because it takes the 8 closest lights, not the 8 brightest (radius/distance) lights - is that right?
Can MGE XE and MCP possibly interact to fix this?

Okay, one last time thing. Does it return if you turn off that loud sound bug detection option?



It's a DirectX limitation to start with, and the seam occurs at the edge of the mesh rather than the centre, so a distance measure isn't going to make the best decision. I don't really know what to do with it.

Well, I was having the problem before installing that option, yes. Are you asking me to pull up the original .exe file to see if it goes back to being loud again?

EDIT: just did some more checking and, yes, there is definite mutage happening here. At *least* every third item sell sound is gone.

I have noticed an issue related to how the game displays information related to (modified?) birthsigns.

When using a birthsign editing mod, if a given birthsign has any combination of spells, powers, and abilties (Ex. the WGI version of "The Ritual") then everything conferred by the birthsign will be listed under the heading for "Powers" instead of in the proper category. This is present in the (for lack of a better descriptive term) birthsign summary screen viewable from the character summary screen, and in the stat menu accessible from the inventory screen. As an aside, there are some missing punctuation marks as well, there is no " : " mark after "powers" in said menu for instance. Of course, the related spells/powers/abilities conferred still function correctly, these are only visual bugs.

I am unsure if this is present in the base executable as well, or if it's some combination of my installation and the MPP code I have applied to my particular executable.

Any ideas?

Tizzo

Odd... I have never seen this happen.

In case anyone uses the Improved Teleport mod and it's not functioning:




Using WGI myself, a fresh Nord with The Ritual has Mara's Gift + two Nord racials under powers, and two Blessed spells in the spells section. It appears correct. The : is missing from after "Powers" too, that can be fixed with a GMST edit.

Could it be done by editing the NIF files... what if someone broke down the large tilesets into smaller sections, but did in a way that was dimensionally identical to the original when rendered. E.g. take a large external square floor tile and make it 16 smaller sections that are exactly aligned to fit the original.

You can split the nodes within the nif in Blender. I don't think it would take more than breaking the largest tiles into 4-6 pieces since lighting scales with area.

Demonstration Screenshot: http://i56.tinypic.com/1hwdqf.jpg

As you can see in the example, the "Fay" ability is listed along with the "Wizard's Brand" power instead of in the correct section.

This screenshot was taken with no other mods active but WGI and the "SkipTutorial" mod.

edit - nm, am idiot. Carry on!

By the way.

Shouldn't there be Encumbrance% instead of normalized fatigue? This doesn't make any sense.

.....
I am idiot too.

What are people thinking about the potion weights and pickpocketing at the moment?



Ah, figured this out. The UI programmer decided to align some of the spell text along the bottom of the frame instead of just adding it like everything else.

Looks good so far. By the way, is there any checks for stealing items from the world while sneaking? Or you only need a sneak indicator?

Trying to test that for you, but the debugger keeps crashing when it stops in the activate function.

What do people think of potion restrictions? Something like when you drink a potion, removeeffects is run to remove effects from similar potions you've drunk earlier. It's may be complicated to make though, since potion effects aren't activated until you leave menu mode. I already believe it's more about player restraint than anything else, but is there a way to penalize potion stacking that makes sense in-game?

I guess it's fine. The lightest hand-made potions are heavier than the exclusive ones which is good as I may finally begin to consider buying and using them.

A (cumulative) 1 second paralysis effect on all potions.
Makes sense as while drink a potion you shouldn't be able fight, cast a spell, jump, run, dodge...

I'd never turn on the potion change with that restriction.

I vote for restrictions, because potions stacking is one of the main exploits. The best restriction is the effect cooldown, I think. (for example - if used potion contained "fortify athletic" effect, no new potion can be equipped with the "fortify athletic effect" before first potion lasts + possibly some cooldown). It is the best restriction I can think of, but it can be hard to implement.

If it's impossible, I vote for "1 potion at time" restriction. Have mercy for Nerevarine's stomach!!!!

Never had a problem with potion stacking. I don't see it as needing to be adjusted.

Can't say I really care much about potion weights either. Alchemy name bug is fixed (thank you so much!).

I haven't really had a chance to test pickpocketing yet.

I have not had any noticeable problems using any of the beta options.

Is there another way?


I'd say we have two separate problems here.
1. No cooldown. You may use them instantly without any animation or restriction. This affects combat. Logically there should be no way to use potion in combat - you should drink before or after. Healing or restoring mana in the middle of fight is bad. To fix this we need some restrictions. Best way would be to add some animation like casting, if it's possible. If not, then cumulative paralyzing is the next best option, maybe even for >1 sec. To fight the menu problem you can force menu closing each time potion is activated. This may be somewhat harsh, but why would you activate such an option if you don't want a good restriction?
2. Effect stacking. Easiest solution woul be to remove any similar effects before applying potion, yes.

Great idea, mym. Poor execution, though. Notwithstanding the fact that it's entirely possible to avoid the paralysis effect, it just seems a bit too... contrived. Let me try.

Let's say that an animation was attached to potion consumption - an animation that takes about 2-4 second to complete. This will prevent you from attacking or blocking during a quaffing, but not necessarily from moving at all. Seems reasonable.

And say you chug nine potions in the inventory at once. That would be, well, nine animations you have to sit through once you exit. While this won't necessarily stop the most heinous applications of stacking, it *will* make it a lot harder to do in situations that can't be easily fixed by modding. Combine BTB's Game Improvements with a setup like that, and you've got balance.

Of course, this could be taken one step further (or not, I don't know - we're way outside my realm of expertise right now) by disallowing the player from drinking more than one potion at a time in the inventory by running a check to see if the animation is running (or supposed to be). Or, if that's not possible, then wait to have the potion effects apply until *after* the animation plays.

Granted, I have no clue how within the realm of possibility *any* of this is, but my job here is to come up with wild and crazy ideas - not implement them

Please no. I have more self control than a toddler with ADD, I can keep myself from drinking 1,000 potions at any one time.