Repairing the Phial Glitch

Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:20 am

WTF!? Why can't you ship a complete game Bethesda?

I am on "Repairing the Phial," and because I already had a briar heart in my inventory when I loot the NPC named "Briar Heart," and try to take his the quest does not update. Great! What a glaring mistake on your devs. This game is a poorly constructed, yet beautiful, peace of [censored]. It's like a car with a Jaguar body and a Ford engine (get it?)

I have played 96 hours of this game and have found 3 such game-breaking glitches. I charge $15/hr for my testing services. Please send me a PM so that we can arrange payment.

Edit: Ultimately resolved by performing the following fix:

From UESPwiki - http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Repairing_the_Phial

* (360,PS3,PC) When you pick up the Briarheart, the quest will not update, and no option to turn them in will appear when talking to Quintus. Unknown cause (some author had 6 already but i was removed it with console it still won't work though). they cannot be dropped as they are now quest items. The way to remove any briar hearts from your inventory is to open console and remove the briar heart with player.removeitem 3ad61 1 code. The solution to complete quest is setstage MS12b 60 code. Make sure you do not have any Briarheart in your inventory when you take this quest.
* (360,PC) After drinking the potion, you can go to your misc. items and equip the vial thus duplicating it. The extra vials obtained in this manner do not refill though.
User avatar
SEXY QUEEN
 
Posts: 3417
Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:54 pm

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:38 pm

drop and pick it up again?
User avatar
barbara belmonte
 
Posts: 3528
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2007 6:12 pm

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:43 pm

drop and pick it up again?



Doesn't work unfortunately. This is a terminally [censored] glitch. Once it is in your inventory it becomes a quest item and it can't be removed unless you write a script.

I have tried every workaround, looked online, etc. It is just plain [censored].

Which is a real [censored] because the quest reward is epic, but oh well. [censored] it.
User avatar
Emma
 
Posts: 3287
Joined: Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:51 am

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:55 pm

drop and pick it up again?



I do appreciate the help though. Do not mistake my aggression for Bethesda as aggression towards you :)
User avatar
CxvIII
 
Posts: 3329
Joined: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:35 pm

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:03 pm

bump.
User avatar
Naomi Lastname
 
Posts: 3390
Joined: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:21 am

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:23 pm

Not yet, Bethesda has lots of phail glitches to work on.
User avatar
Stacey Mason
 
Posts: 3350
Joined: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:18 am

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:36 pm

Not yet, Bethesda has lots of phail glitches to work on.



Word.
User avatar
*Chloe*
 
Posts: 3538
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:34 am

Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:29 am

Over-react much? A game breaking glitch prevents you from no longer playing the game properly. A specific quest glitch is not "game-breaking". Relax man.
User avatar
Sarah Edmunds
 
Posts: 3461
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:03 pm

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:56 pm

...
User avatar
Kira! :)))
 
Posts: 3496
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:07 pm

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:29 pm

How is it really a problem, the game autosaves so damn often you could probably:
1. Load previous game save.
2. drop briar-heart before picking his quest-related one up
3. ???
4. Profit!

and only lose as much time as you've already spent making this thread.

But yeah, bugs are bad.
User avatar
daniel royle
 
Posts: 3439
Joined: Thu May 17, 2007 8:44 am

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:39 pm

God, why is everyone using the word peace?!?!?!?!? in this context its PIECE!!!
User avatar
Andy durkan
 
Posts: 3459
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:05 pm

Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:16 am

How is it really a problem, the game autosaves so damn often you could probably:
1. Load previous game save.
2. drop briar-heart before picking his quest-related one up
3. ???
4. Profit!

and only lose as much time as you've already spent making this thread.

But yeah, bugs are bad.



Well let me explain...

1. I picked up the quest about hmm.... 12 hours before I started it. It's not uncommon to keep quests in your log while you are working on other quests. That's why there is a quest log.
2. See 1
3. ???
4. See 1 - 3

And, yeah, being obtuse is bad.

BTW...it took me less than 12 hours to make this thread, Hawking.
User avatar
Kieren Thomson
 
Posts: 3454
Joined: Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:28 am

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:14 pm

Well let me explain...

1. I picked up the quest about hmm.... 12 hours before I started it. It's not uncommon to keep quests in your log while you are working on other quests. That's why there is a quest log.
2. See 1
3. ???
4. See 1 - 3

And, yeah, being obtuse is bad.

BTW...it took me less than 12 hours to make this thread, Hawking.


why does 1 invalidate 2 as you surely need to drop your "non-quest heart" on the floor and then loot the quest one so you didn't have one in your inventory?
which would be solved by reloading to a save previous to when you looted quest item not when you accepted quest.
User avatar
Kit Marsden
 
Posts: 3467
Joined: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:19 pm

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:09 pm

Not sure if you are playing on PC or a console but have you tried using the command to force the quest to update to a certain stage?
User avatar
Sharra Llenos
 
Posts: 3399
Joined: Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:09 pm

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:30 pm

Use the console and action the quest to the next stage.
User avatar
Alexandra walker
 
Posts: 3441
Joined: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:50 am

Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:07 am

Weird I didn't get it from the designated quest location but it worked fine for me. Guess you're screwed! These are minor bugs though, this isn't what anyone but you would consider game-breaking. With the amount of quests and content there's bound to be some conflict somewhere. 3 bugs of this kind in 90 hours is nothing.

People with PS3 issues or constant CTD's are the ones that rightfully complain about gamebreaking issues.
User avatar
Ells
 
Posts: 3430
Joined: Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:03 pm

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:12 pm

Use the console and action the quest to the next stage.


maybe he's on console.
User avatar
Joe Alvarado
 
Posts: 3467
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:13 pm

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:00 pm

why does 1 invalidate 2 as you surely need to drop your "non-quest heart" on the floor and then loot the quest one so you didn't have one in your inventory?
which would be solved by reloading to a save previous to when you looted quest item not when you accepted quest.


You can't drop the heart once you have it in your inventory even if it is not the quest heart. It recognizes the briar heart in your inventory as a quest item. Even when you use a command to get rid of the heart and pick up the new heart it still doesn't update. Even if you try to use a command to roll back the quest stages it fails. I have been around this bug every which way and there is no way around it.
User avatar
Cartoon
 
Posts: 3350
Joined: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:31 pm

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 11:38 pm

Use the console and action the quest to the next stage.

Drama queen.



Tried it. Doesn't work.
User avatar
Claire Jackson
 
Posts: 3422
Joined: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:38 pm

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:33 pm

maybe he's on console.


On PC. Even so I have input every script that I could find on the internet to no avail.
User avatar
Charles Mckinna
 
Posts: 3511
Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:51 am

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:49 pm

On PC. Even so I have input every script that I could find on the internet to no avail.

What have you tried exactly?
Did you try the workarounds on the uesp/wikia wikis?
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Repairing_the_Phial
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Repairing_the_Phial
User avatar
Chad Holloway
 
Posts: 3388
Joined: Wed Nov 21, 2007 5:21 am

Post » Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:23 am

WTF!? Why can't you ship a complete game Bethesda?

I am on "Repairing the Phial," and because I already had a briar heart in my inventory when I loot the NPC named "Briar Heart," and try to take his the quest does not update. Great! What a glaring mistake on your devs. This game is a poorly constructed, yet beautiful, peace of [censored]. It's like a car with a Jaguar body and a Ford engine (get it?)

I have played 96 hours of this game and have found 3 such game-breaking glitches. I charge $15/hr for my testing services. Please send me a PM so that we can arrange payment.


I get where you are coming from, but the Jag body and Ford engine comparison really shouldn't be made. Most care manufacturers use parts from other companies. Many times high end cars use engines from lower end companies and tweak them. So it's kinda like the modding community once the CK is released. Just saying
User avatar
Mr. Ray
 
Posts: 3459
Joined: Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:08 am

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:12 pm

If its really THAT big of a deal too you, you can either

1. Reload a save game before you started it ( yaya 12 hours w/e)

2. Keep searching for a fix to this one little quest instead of playing the game.

3. Deal with it and do the quest your next time through the game.

4. Wait for a patch either by Bethesda or the community.

or my favorite

5. Get over it and continue enjoying your current game.
User avatar
Len swann
 
Posts: 3466
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2007 5:02 pm

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:59 pm

Met the same bug, already had a briarheart in my inventory so getting the other one never registered with the quest but the quest insisted that I needed to collect one from that specific dude's corpse. Putting "setstage MS12b 60" into the console advanced me past that section of the quest and I could successfully turn the components in and finish it (despite the quest's progress check box not filling for the briarheart it still worked). This is the sort of bug that a year one comp-sci student with even the most remote idea of what test cases are and why they're a good idea would have anticipated while writing the quest code, this isn't the first time a quest has annoyingly interfered with my inventory in an undesirable way either. (anyone else rack up a large stock of non-removable giant's toes while ignoring that wild night quest?)

Ah well, at least we have the console to get past these small irks in an otherwise phenomenal game.
User avatar
Emma-Jane Merrin
 
Posts: 3477
Joined: Fri Aug 08, 2008 1:52 am

Post » Wed Dec 14, 2011 5:04 pm

What have you tried exactly?
Did you try the workarounds on the uesp/wikia wikis?
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Repairing_the_Phial
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Repairing_the_Phial



* (360,PS3,PC) When you pick up the Briarheart, the quest will not update, and no option to turn them in will appear when talking to Quintus. Unknown cause (some author had 6 already but i was removed it with console it still won't work though). they cannot be dropped as they are now quest items. The way to remove any briar hearts from your inventory is to open console and remove the briar heart with player.removeitem 3ad61 1 code. The solution to complete quest is setstage MS12b 60 code. Make sure you do not have any Briarheart in your inventory when you take this quest.
* (360,PC) After drinking the potion, you can go to your misc. items and equip the vial thus duplicating it. The extra vials obtained in this manner do not refill though.

1) Well, let me detail how the quest broke in the first place. I had a briarheart in my inventory when I picked up the quest from Quintus which I did about 12 hours ago. When I picked up the briarheart nothing happened and it did not update the quest. When I returned to Quintus I couldn't turn the quest in since one of my objectives was incomplete. Now that that is out of the way.

2) My first attempt to fix was to go back and just try to reacquire the briarheart thinking that it was just a fluke. Again it didn't update the quest.

3) I tried to clear my inventory of the original briarheart before I picked up the quest briarheart but I couldn't remove it.

4) At that point I consulted the UESPwiki above like you suggested and input the following command (setstage MS12b 60). The command resulted in a prompt to "return to Quintus," and when I got there he had an arrow on his head but I could not turn in, or reacquire, the quest (I was a little unclear on whether or not I was backing the quest up or moving it forward). In any case it did not advance the quest.

5) I reloaded a save and removed the existing briarheart with (player.removeitem 3ad61 1) but, again, it didn't update when I picked up the new briarheart.

6) Another site suggested that I use the following commands to scale the quest back

a. (setstage MS12b 50)
b. (setstage MS12b 40)
c. (setstage MS12b 30)
d. (setstage MS12b 20)

None of them were recognized. I have yet to try going forward with (setstage MS12b 70) but I suspect that this will not work.

In short I have done everything that an end-user could be expected to do/know to resolve this problem to no avail so I moved on and continued playing the game without the awesome White Phial reward. Though everytime I use a Vigorous Healing Potion the glitch sticks in my craw.

TY for genuinely trying to be helpful though and not just telling me I ought to get over it like some retards.
User avatar
Jah Allen
 
Posts: 3444
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:09 am

Next

Return to V - Skyrim