new vegas had no random encounters, no random events, very few enemies on the map to fight, hardly any good battlezones, no dungeons, mostly all desert with a few shacks here and there, FO3 had tons of good battlesones. la enfant plaza, takoma industrial, both sides of the capitol building, georgetown and we can go on and on, so you're saying whats true to the fallout series is. not many enemies to fight, no dungeons or large buildings to explore, no random events and encounters, no high tech factions, if you're saying thats how the game should be made i totally am glad bethesda owns the franchise.

Yes im pretty sure that there would be enemies out there and not ones like every hour to. It sounds like to me that FNV's not very realistic.

Hey I'm not some classic-fan (even though I've played and prefer them) who wants Turn-Based back and such, I loved exploration and fighting [censored] every now and then, random encounters, I used the Mechanists Building as my one base too and nowhere in NV seems to accodate my tastes (not without an owned bed or Brotherhood of Steel anyway); what I ask is that the enemies I fight make sense, I certainly wasn't questioning just how the [censored] I was expected to believe that Legion or NCR had large numbers unlike... other factions in F3 is all I'm saying for example; or how what was supposedly a "high-tech" US Army just let Liberty Prime destroy them when any number of things they had already demonstrated could have been used to defeat the Brotherhood in five minutes flat.

the enemies in new vegas don't make sense to me, ceasers legion live in tents, their main base is all tents, they use spears and macheties yet the fiends use energy weapons, there is supposedly a war going on and yet you don't find any battles or skirmeshes happening hardly at all, only at nelson, there's hardly any ceasers legion on the map, none of the factions patrol anywhere, like they stay exactly where they are at 24/7. none of the factions ever bump into each other cause they don't go anyhwere, why aren'y any boomers ever cruising around near rauls shack or north las vegas, thats their area, why aren't the great khans ever cruising around near goodsprings or near where the fiends base is , thats not far from their area, why isn't ncr patrolling the map area?, why does the same 2 or 3 barkscoprions spawn in hidden valley and nipton every single time you go there, is it suppose to be realistic that no factions or other enemies every go to nipton ? and it doesn't make sense the supermutants stay on black mountain and never go anywhere else, they would be in some different areas cruising around, so all this "believable" business you and others talk about is really just arbitrary.

Yah really its not even beliable the factions would move around and not stay in one place all the damn time. If you look at it like this F3 was more believable.

Yeah I actually made a thread on the whole Fiends thing, people said that they just raid caravans so obvious but I don't buy that, only the Van Graffs pack that much gear and then aren't the type to let their caravans get [censored], at the least they would use a different route and they attack the Gun Runners without anyone suspecting apartently; on top of that EW's are supposed to require serious maintainence.



Well the Boomers are isolationists but that's the only one I can really defend. Nipton I feel is like the new Kavatch. But the rest seem more like gameplay related problems, even if you don't see them it is at least mentioned that the NCR patrol the major travel highways and such, a pissy excuse and I know you want more gameplay which is fair if your judging the game but I'm really judging canon here gameplay aside. It at least makes reference's to such things if nothing else which F3 does not.

@Epicness, well it really isn't is it. There are plot inconsistancies and holes up the [censored] about many things.

^ Thats believable.

obsidian knows how to do certain stuff really good, like weapons, the reputation system, the skill/perk/special system, npcs were good, the factions were ok but ceasers legion wasn't all that great, the final battle is epic, but thats the only epic moment on the map, i don't need as much action as in FO3, but its like in new vegas its really sparse, so much so its not a lot of fun to play the game once you played it a couple times, its agood game to play for a month or two but after that it just gets too predictable, i liked running into uncle leo in FO3, or the fireplance event, and some of the other random encounters that may or may not happen in any given playthru, i still never ran into amata being killed by the enclave and i've played FO3 since it came out, new vegas was missing stuff like that. i also liked how all the factions cruised around the map in FO3, even raiders sometimes would be on patrol, the outcast always were, the enclave always were, hunters, mercs, slavers, new vegas was missing all of that.

Not to mention the BOS also patrolled to.

not sure if anyone touched on this, but thats not LARPing at all.

and.. how did my fallout three replay love fest thread turn into a FNV thread?
This is about stillb eing albe to come back and play F3. not the vangraffs, boomer and fiends. you fiends!

LARPing stands for Live Action Role Playing, which means it's not at all LARPing in any sense... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw

OMFG that video was just ughh....

WHO DOES THAT KIND OF STUFF. i dont know if i shouldve laughed or felt sorry for them.

I dunno, I would totally be down for smacking people with a war hammer. Of course mine wouldn't be made out of foam...

This- :facepalm:

Check yourself before you WRECK yourself.

Seriously? Can't the NV stuff stay in the NV Forum? It has its own Forum for a reason. This should be a sacred place for :wub: of FO3 and how fun it is to bask in the wonderfulness of the CW. :celebration:

Then why can't the Fallout 3 stuff stay in the Fallout 3 forum??!! :crazy:

Maybe because all the NV fan boys keep bringing up how much they hate Fallout 3?

Oh come on! Every other day in the F:NV board I see a topic with the same gist "this game svcks, Fallout 3 is better".

This. I don't spend any time over there because everyone is so crabby and contentious. This particular forum has always tried to be a friendly place. I don't see any reason why the unfriendly NV atmosphere has to invade it. I say let's keep it nice and FO3 friendly and if cranky people want to be cranky they can do it elsewhere.




Whatever. This is a pointless argument that doesn't deserve attention. Either you want to be friendly and be here because you see something of value in FO3 and are here to talk about it with FO3 fans or you come here to poke fun at it and stir the pot. Decide which it is and I've seen your posts in NV and know you prefer it and I've seen your posts here and it seems you don't like FO3 much. I think if you want to post here you shouldn't try to bicker and battle so much. If you want to do that go back to the NV forums where that is an acceptable pasttime and have your fun.

*sigh* sorry, I get fed up with the series boards "debates" (notice the quotes) and I tend to get a little... Ah, angry. Back on topic.

So, after a good solid playthrough of NV I decided to play Fallout 3, mostly for [censored] 'n' giggles. With this time, a twist. I slaughter everyone who isn't labeled "essential". It didn't take me too long to clear Vault 101...

I really like the radio in F3 a lot too. i think thats one of the things that keeps me coming back.

that and the metro's.. even if its a slow day i can feel great about a metro crawl with the terrible shotgun and 'Let's go sunning' playing in the BG.

For me it's wandering around outside in the Wasteland. I just get caught up in what I'm doing and the next thing I know I've lost an hour or two wandering around looting and shooting stuff listening to Charon take off after something or pvssyr occasionally behind me and just having a generally great time. I love it.

Oh, i def like trying to walk in different directions outside, or taking my build with trudging from megaton to the satcomm towers. trying to guestimate where a town or location is just by looking at the horizon. was definately miassing the tunnels though... . like after my NV game.. it was just great to have that back again. nostalgia as much as genuine replay.

Yes! I missed the urban stuff after my first run through NV and went and visited a bunch of Muties around DC for fun.

So... I just got to Megaton... God I hate this town... And the gun sounds... I do find the screams to be very cathartic though...