I am a roleplayer through and through, at least in this kind of game. If I come upon something that would my character would never participate in then I usually won't do it, I'll keep it in mind for another character. I do tend to make characters that are fairly flexible in that way as a result though, characters with little to no moral guidelines but rather people that do the what's efficient and benefits them the most.

Agreed

I'm a re-player for sure. Just doesn't seem logical for my stealth character with no real magic skills to complete the Mage's Guild quest line so I make a new character more suited to the task.

I would like to have the ability to do about 80% the first time through, but I don’t want it to belatedly obvious.

Like the first time through Morrowind I did maybe 20% of the game, even though you can pretty much do anything, except some guilds and the great houses. Even now I will once in while find something new to do….. apparently there’s a mean fish quest that I never new about.

Anyhow I would like to play Skyrim more then 1.5 times without giving up half way through the second time, saying to myself, “guess I did most of this the first time through”!

Depends. In Morrowind, I just did whatever came along on my one character. But in Oblivion, I was certainly a replayer.

Hmmm...

After viewing this topic from a different perspective, I began to wonder about the guilds issue.

My main character, a Nordic shamaness type, will mostly be using magic, supplemented with some alchemy. Under the new skill distribution system in Skyrim, alchemy will be in the Stealth group, and many posts in the Skyrim threads indicate the Mages Guild is now defunct.

The question I have seems to be: What do you believe will be the acquisition sources of skills, spells, potions, etc.? For example: Will my shamaness type have to join the Thieves Guild to have access to alchemy items?

The answers to these questions could impact potential need to replay with new characters.

I've poured hundreds of hours into Oblivion but I've never beaten the main quest. It just never drew me in. Hopefully the main story will be much more engaging and interesting in Skyrim. That said the main quest is only like 5-10% of the game so i suppose I'm in the 90% category, even if I don't do the main quest again.

In Oblivion I have hardly ever touched any story missions or side quests. I rebuild characters over and over in search of the perfect one for me.
So i want to be able to level my characters skills to the point I want before I really start playing.
I don't like the idea of having to restart the game with a base character again just to experience things differently.
I want to be able to experience 100% of the game in one play through UNLESS I'm given the option to keep my skill levels when I restart.
Anyhow I guess 100% is impossible because at some point you will have so much fame or infamy that some things wouldn't realistically be possible.

Good job sir you including "other" as an option. Even if you could not think of what it would cover, you realized that is part of the point of "other" to cover options you did not consider.

I noticed that the people who are voting for 100% completion in one playthrough are not leaving comments.Probly cause they know in the back of their heads how ridiculous that is,and know that they would get constant backlash from everyone else.
Like I said before,that is extremely selfish and greedy.Especially when they know how many of us are replayers. :swear:

While trying to be as realistic as possible I voted for 60-70 percent.
You'd see the majority of the game, but there would still be things to do.

Voted 41-50%. I like to get a decent chunk done in one game, but I do tend to divide certain things for good/evil characters, and I would like to give difference character builds and races a different try, so I don't really like committing to 100% completion.

Completionist. I want to be able to do everything on one playthrough if I so desire. I don't like having to start over and do 90% of everything the same way so I can get 10% new content.

I don't mind if there are some things I won't be able to do on certain playthroughs. Mostly, it's options that really define one's character that I don't mind missing out on in some playthroughs. If I make a noble knight type character who would never think of killing anyone who doesn't deserve it and would despise anyone who does not fight honorably, for example, I wouldn't join the Dark Brotherhood, even if the game let me do so. While in some games, I'll often strive to complete as much content as is possible on my first playthrough, I don't really approach the Elder Scrolls like that now, in part, perhaps, because the series always has enough content that even if I leave some parts of the game unfinished, I won't feel that I didn't get enough out of the game. Indeed, in past Elder Scrolls games, there are still many quests I have never done before. I don't want to see many areas or items only certain characters will have access to unless they're involved with quests only certain characters will do, whether as rewards or as locations or items that will only be seen during the quest. But I don't mind not being able to join every faction or do every quest with one character, I'd also like some quests to have different outcomes, depending on you're choices, and you'd have to choose one one option. I don't know about the exact percentage of the game's content you should be able to do on a single playthrough, I can just try a different approach during my next playthrough. And if I don't want to have a next playthrough in an Elder Scrolls game, then it means Bethesda did something wrong.



Or they know there are a lot of children on this forum who just can't accept that others can *gasp* have different opinions from them, and know these children will feel the need to flame them if they DARE to post something they don't agree with on a forum. After all, as we all know, having your own opinion on the internet is only allowed if it's the same as other people's, that's just basic common sense, right?



I'm assuming that like in past games, you'll be able to get all you need to make potions even if you don't join the Thieves Guild. I can't see why you wouldn't be. After all, you don't need to join the Mages Guild to use magic or the Fighters Guild to fight. You might lose access to services that would be useful for someone who specializes in those areas of expertise, of course. as some guild members might only provide services to guild members, but even so, you can probably find what you'll need for alchemy in the environment, and I'd expect to see some alchemists not associated with any guilds who can trade with you, much like in past games. Though I certainly haven't seen any information that says this, it's just what seems likely to me.

Then dont,and just be satified with your 90% which would probly be close to 200 hours of gameplay anyways.



Exactly,so am I not allowed to have my opinion then?.Your comment contradicts itself. :rolleyes: .......and your acting more childish than I was so.....

Replayer, with each character joining at most 3 guilds

I generally make 3 characters and play through the game in different ways to cover everything.

If the game is made properly then you won't feel like you're repeating old quests, you'll feel like you're doing them in a different way.

LOL. Probably true.



Nah. If I want to get 100% of the content I should be able to without having to play through the entire game 7 times. That was my problem with F:NV. There are four different paths, but for the most part they are extremely similar up until the point where you have to choose someone to side with, then boom, the game's over. If I'm going to have to play through the game several times to get all of the content, the different paths should be varied enough to keep it interesting.

I will do what makes sense for the character I envision myself playing, intentionally leaving some out-of-character quests and locations out to have something to look forward to in later replays. I'll likely have to replay the game numerous times to fully enjoy the various skills and perks and ways to play the game anyway, and it only makes sense that I leave a few things to see and experience with the new characters too. That makes me look like a Replayer, but it's really just a matter of wanting to get my money's worth out of the game. I want to play it and enjoy it as much as possible while seeing all that it has to offer. If I see too much in a single play-through the following play-throughs will offer very little new.

I had that problem with Dragon Age. There were some small cosmetic (but sometimes interesting) changes scattered here and there, based on a character's origin. But slogging through the approximately 98% of the game that never changed just to hear an occasional origin-based line of dialog was not worth it for me.

Anyway, I am a hard-core, dedicated, dyed-in-the-wool replayer. But a better term is roleplayer. My opinion is that, in a game as large and varied as an Elder Scrolls game, a true roleplayer will never attempt to do everything. It just goes against the very spirit of roleplaying. If I'm roleplaying a mage who disdains physical weapons I am not going to take him through the Fighters Guild quest line. If I roleplay a barbarian warrior who fears and distrusts all forms of magic I am not going to take that character through the Mages Guild quest line. Roleplaying is all about self-imposed limits. And that is contradictory to the idea of completionism.

Now there's nothing at all wrong with being a completionist. It's a perfectly valid way to play. But it isn't roleplaying, so it isn't the way I play.

I agree. If the game paths were more unique, I would be inclined to roleplay more, but as it is in Oblivion, I feel like I need to do everything at once because I get bored replaying.

I don't mean to appear as though I don't enjoy roleplaying - I definitely do. However, when put in the above situation, completing wins out for me. I hope that Skyrim will provide enough varied experiences so that I will want to keep replaying and roleplaying.

"Replaying roleplayer" describes me pretty well. There are plenty of quest lines in Morrowind and Oblivion that I still haven't done because they just didn't pertain to any of the characters I was roleplaying at the time. Maybe sometime I will go back and do them eventually, hence the replaying aspect! For games with less freedom, games-on-rails so to speak, I am closer to being a completionist just because these games don't give the freedom of exploration and roleplay that we have in Elder Scrolls. Those games I don't have the desire to play multiple times so I want to see as much as possible. But give me an open world, then experiencing everything no longer matters... its the roleplay of different characters. To be someone else and create their story... what guilds do they want to join? Do they want to do the main quest? Do they even want to do quests? Ah! Lovely freedom!

Typically I'll complete about 70-80% before starting again.

You don't have to play through the whole game 7 times.. this isn't a linear game. Just create a new character, go do what you couldn't before, and ignore everything else you've already done. In the cases where you may have to retread familiar ground, look to see what you missed (even in linear games, you may have missed stuff; open world, it's even more likely) and try playing it differently to see what effects your choices have. If the game is done right, it can feel like multiple games in one.

When you say single playthrough what do you mean? I will go with 21-31% =D