Resistance vs Security 6

Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:11 am

Well take this into considerationg: what f their is radio contact and the founders srnt telling us? and Wraith i think we should put this to rest. we'll find out for when the game comes out, and tehn we can start this ack up :goodjob:


http://www.criticalgamer.co.uk/2009/12/21/brink-interview-with-richard-ham-and-edward-stern/

Found my link.

However I agree its rather pointless I just want to see how the story all plays out when Brink finally gets here.
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:34 am

Agreed. :foodndrink:
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:45 am

Agreed. :foodndrink:


Ok :celebration:


Also I can and will find you even in oblivion :obliviongate:
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:38 am

Yes you will find me. but then all will go black
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Dan Wright
 
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:48 am

For some reason, I don't think that there's a "higher hand" that knows more than others. If there is, the security will probably realise it near the end or the resistance will do something bout it. I wouldn't be surprised if they work together in the final mission to kill that "higher hand"'if there is one.
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:28 am

For some reason, I don't think that there's a "higher hand" that knows more than others. If there is, the security will probably realise it near the end or the resistance will do something bout it. I wouldn't be surprised if they work together in the final mission to kill that "higher hand"'if there is one.


.. My [censored], aliens?!
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 10:10 am

1) can you pleaasse tell me where you have read no radio contact? and its a Catch 22. Use what little resources they have and try to find land or sty the way they are and let their resources diminish... i believe this the real story.

Uh, can't remember where I read or heard that, but it's pretty much the security/founders' stance : We've been isolated for 20 years (wasn't it 20, not 10?) and haven't heard from anyone since the icecaps melted...
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:10 am

.. My [censored], aliens?!

No. Space Russians.
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:42 am

Catch 22
Those who are insane do not say they're insane, they just do their missions, becuase they've lost their senses and therefore wont leave, becuase they can't/don't want to
Those who are'nt insane tells the doc they're insane, but if they do that, then they got sense in their head and are not insane, and they will have to do their missions

It's a good book, really x)
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:57 pm

No. Space Russians.


Are you [censored] kidding me? The Spacenatz are attacking again?

Man the [censored] Proton cannons
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 9:54 am

Ya, well .. no ... it was more like ... http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/unskippable/2586-Vanquish-Part-1.
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:22 am

Ya, well .. no ... it was more like ... http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/unskippable/2586-Vanquish-Part-1.


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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:37 pm

What I don't get is why the Resistance guys haven't tried improving their lives from the bottom up. Build additional water processing plants instead of blowing things up, that sort of stuff. There's plenty of usable materials laying around, and at least some of them should have the required engineering abilities. :wink_smile:

This whole civil war could have been avoided if people just worked hard at improving the general situation on the Ark. But a seasteading version of Harvest Moon wouldn't be much fun, I suppose. :frog:
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:32 am

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Space Russians! (the commetary was funny)
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 3:02 am

Before the war everything flowed, sorta, all were getting rations, nobody died in vain

Then something sparked, and someone tossed a stone

Then the war started, and people died

Who tossed the stone?

That's like asking who fired the first shot of the American Revolution.

Rations are low, resources are dwindling, conditions are dangerous. Options for refugees are few and extreme: continue to live in squalor and poverty or try to emigrate back to the mainland. Some refugees wonder how it's going back at the mainland. Security forces crack down on those pushing to escape, arousing sympathy from other refugees. They unite and form the Resistance. Tensions are high on all sides. Standoffs occured. Someone got jumpy. Panicked. Cut a few rounds loose. Instant civil war.

What I don't get is why the Resistance guys haven't tried improving their lives from the bottom up. Build additional water processing plants instead of blowing things up, that sort of stuff. There's plenty of usable materials laying around, and at least some of them should have the required engineering abilities. :wink_smile:

This whole civil war could have been avoided if people just worked hard at improving the general situation on the Ark. But a seasteading version of Harvest Moon wouldn't be much fun, I suppose. :frog:

I don't think there is a way to improve a situation when the available resources can only support a tenth of the actual population. As you said, why didn't someone build more water processing plants? That shouldn't have been the job of the refugees (although they could've helped in constructing it, sure); it really should have been the job of those in charge of the Ark to at least organize and direct the effort. But that didn't happen. Someone decided to take advantage of the refugees. Someone is controlling what information gets out to the populace, and someone wants to be sure the refugees stay under control, to advance whatever agenda he/she may have. The Resistance is having none of it; they want to see the truth, and they want out of the mess the Ark leadership has locked them into and make better lives for themselves and their fellows. This shadowy Ark mastermind needs to crush the Resistance to keep the refugees in line. Hence, the Security is brought in for "population/crowd control".

Why does the Ark leadership need the refugees to stay? Why doesn't the Ark leadership understand and work to alleviate the plight of the refugees? If the leadership cooperated and helped the refugees, the Resistance would have no reason to exist. So to say this situation is the fault of the Resistance, I think is false. There is something much bigger at work than mere rebels and police skirmishes. I'd bet a good amount of money on it.
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 7:15 am

Play the game have fun. It's really that simple.
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:11 am

Play the game have fun. It's really that simple.

I plan to, no worries on that. I just really like immersing myself into a story and figuring out all the details. For me, that's where a good portion of the fun is.

But then, for a geek, I'm REALLY geeky. I'm a huge fan of Halo; I know more about the expanded universe storyline of Halo than any of my friends online (they often ask me about stuff that confuses them in the universe, I can straighten them out and point them to the resources where they can learn more). I'm a svcker for a good story. Brink looks like it has a good story (and really fun gameplay too).
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:22 am

The path to revolution is seldom without blood. Even a relatively harmless overthrow (by this I mean Egypt's recent protests) saw some people get beaten, and others died. Not as much as other rebellions and revolutions, to be sure. But in Brink's case, I'll bet that Security forces are as innocent as the Nazi soldiers who "were just following orders".



That is the saddest excuse for that piece of human excrement I have ever heard. You're making sound as if the innocent dead were just casualties rather than murder victims.
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 6:05 am

whoa whoa whoa!......why has every res vs sec thread ended up this way? Its just a game guys.
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:49 am

That is the saddest excuse for that piece of human excrement I have ever heard. You're making sound as if the innocent dead were just casualties rather than murder victims.

I'm not condoning it. But when two sides refuse to speak with anything else but force, innocents are going to get caught in the crossfire. It's a simple fact, supported by thousands of years of human conflict. If you believe anything else, you're delusional. War is murder; it's not nearly as glorified as popular culture and media make it out to be. It's messy, traumatic, and not something to be idealized.

And, in case you missed it, Che Guervara also taught his followers, who in turn taught the simple villagers around them, making sure they learned things like how to read and write. He wasn't a psychopathic murderer as you are making him out to be. Innocent, no he is not. Does his educational activities make up for his bloody engagements? I wouldn't say so. But he made a hell of a difference, and it wasn't because he racked up a body count. He isn't viewed as a hero by a lot of people because he was a master killer. He's a controverisal figure, and I doubt his role in history will ever be settled as a hero or a villain.
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:26 pm

whoa whoa whoa!......why has every res vs sec thread ended up this way? Its just a game guys.


No this is war, :toughninja:
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:16 am

And, in case you missed it, Che Guervara [...] He's a controverisal figure, and I doubt his role in history will ever be settled as a hero or a villain.

Well, he helped build a communist/socialist like regime in place, so will keep on being viewed as a villain for a while, of course... Until maybe one day China has more political influence worldwide than the States, at which point maybe the widespread image people have of him will have changed?
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:30 am

Well, he helped build a communist/socialist like regime in place, so will keep on being viewed as a villain for a while, of course... Until maybe one day China has more political influence worldwide than the States, at which point maybe the widespread image people have of him will have changed?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara#Legacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_of_Che_Guevara#In_Latin_America(and unlike in Cuba, they aren't forced too). It's a http://video.advltswim.com/robot-chicken/a-certain-point-of-view.html.
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 5:58 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che_Guevara#Legacy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legacy_of_Che_Guevara#In_Latin_America(and unlike in Cuba, they aren't forced too). It's a http://video.advltswim.com/robot-chicken/a-certain-point-of-view.html.

I didn't mean that noone praises him for his accomplishments, I was just saying that as a whole, his image is being tarnished by the ongoing american view on communism which tends to be very prejudiced against everything related to communism (unless, in the case of china produced goods, it can help lessen the strain on their wallet <_<)...
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Post » Sun Jan 02, 2011 2:19 am

I didn't mean that noone praises him for his accomplishments, I was just saying that as a whole, his image is being tarnished by the ongoing american view on communism which tends to be very prejudiced against everything related to communism (unless, in the case of china produced goods, it can help lessen the strain on their wallet <_<)...

LOL qft.

Anyways, we've deviated well beyond far enough from the original topic. ...What was it again?
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