Resistance vs Security

Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:59 pm

saying it like that sounds like war IS the sollution since it will decrease the population a lot.

Of course it's a possible solution.

Similar to what happens all over Africa right now, where the Western countries would not change anything if people wouldn't basicly start a civil war.
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Karine laverre
 
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:10 pm

No. It is always true. Only opinions and emotions dictate otherwise.


If you are able to support yourself yet you refuse to do so, you do not deserve to eat.

And news flash: your statement is also an opinion.
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Julie Serebrekoff
 
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 4:07 pm

well i think resistance is better they just want the ark back
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:14 am

The resistance has every right to resist. The story is, the founders have more food than they need. Isn't it?


But you don't KNOW this, and if they aren't, and the Resistance kill off all the founders, and then find out that they have no more food than they did, then the leaders are dead and there's still no food.

The Security is simply trying to retain order, not kill off the Resistance. The Founders have a good reason to have more resources anyway, the Resistance are basically guests on the Founder's ship
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:56 pm

well i think resistance is better they just want the ark back

Well they never had ownership in the first pace, they want to spread resources fairly and free themselves, not take over.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:55 pm

well i think resistance is better they just want the ark back


They never had the Ark. The Ark was built FOR the Founders, the Founders are being generous by taking everyone in, now they're getting greedy.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:15 am

well i think resistance is better they just want the ark back


The Ark back from whom? It was never theirs to begin with.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:21 am

well i think resistance is better they just want the ark back

i disagree with you. nobody is right, both sides only look at themselves.
its like that developer guy said in one of the videos
"its one of those times when humanity had to stay together and cooperate to survive but doesnt do that." (i probably quoted wrong, but it was something like that)
well, its going to be a war and both sides are wrong.
i like the resistance more because they are less equiped and less trained, thus less likely to win.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:16 pm

i disagree with you. nobody is right, both sides only look at themselves.
its like that developer guy said in one of the videos
"its one of those times when humanity had to stay together and cooperate to survive but doesnt do that." (i probably quoted wrong, but it was something like that)
well, its going to be a war and both sides are wrong.
i like the resistance more because they are less equiped and less trained, thus less likely to win.


Not true, untrained guerilla forces with passion and zeal, and a cause dear to their hearts are still a highly capable fighting force. Just because they dont ahve as much training does not mean they are lesss likely to win but it i still a factor.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:44 pm

Personally, I'm for the Security. After all, the Ark was intended for 5,000 people, and the Resistance are overcrowding that and causing it to fail. The Security are trying to help maintain the Ark and Humanity, and the Resistance are just trying to maintain themselves.

The way I see it, the Security is the good guys.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:08 pm

Not true, untrained guerilla forces with passion and zeal, and a cause dear to their hearts are still a highly capable fighting force. Just because they dont ahve as much training does not mean they are lesss likely to win but it i still a factor.


Yes. Look at the American Revolution for a prime example. The British forces were extremely well trained and were feared all over the globe, and the rebels were everyday workers, but they had a cause and were more familiar with their surroundings (The Resistance is both of these). I'm personally for Security myself, but I enjoy a good debate
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:30 pm

Not true, untrained guerilla forces with passion and zeal, and a cause dear to their hearts are still a highly capable fighting force.

THAT is why i choose the resistance.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:40 pm

both sides are at a home field advantage so the players will decide the game and I dont think either side is the "good guys" neither is working towards common good but thats why it should make a great game
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 11:16 pm

Either the 5000 people who the arc was intended to sustain live ok and the resistance people live a little below ok or every one is between the two.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:03 pm

Either the 5000 people who the arc was intended to sustain live ok and the resistance people live a little below ok or every one is between the two.

there are 50000 people on the ark. there would not be enough food even if each person eats a single sandwich a day.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 1:06 am

I choose both
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:48 pm

there are 50000 people on the ark. there would not be enough food even if each person eats a single sandwich a day.

Until now, I thought your avatar was a hand dragging a shuriken through fabric. Just saying. :laugh:
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 3:52 pm

Until now, I thought your avatar was a hand dragging a shuriken through fabric. Just saying. :laugh:


Heh, I couldn't see it clearly until this post made me take a second look either. I knew it was a face, I just couldn't make it out correctly. I thought the shuriken was hair and it was one of those japanime guys that seem to be so trendy around here.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:23 pm

Heh, I couldn't see it clearly until this post made me take a second look either. I knew it was a face, I just couldn't make it out correctly. I thought the shuriken was hair and it was one of those japanime guys that seem to be so trendy around here.

actually, thats my face.
and it wasnt supposed to be a shuriken, it is a sort of black sun.
but anyway, it is in a small resolution, and i barely know photoshop.
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Post » Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:44 am

resitance has a more free and crazy lifestyle i dont wanna be police!!!
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 5:59 pm

resitance has a more free and crazy lifestyle i dont wanna be police!!!

not true. we know they dress as badass but we cant be sure of their lifestyle.
also, its not police, its "security"
(actualy, only half is security, the other half is a bunch of psychos with badass masks.)
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:12 pm

actually, thats my face.
and it wasnt supposed to be a shuriken, it is a sort of black sun.
but anyway, it is in a small resolution, and i barely know photoshop.


I can see it now. Before, the background was just throwing me off. It sort of distorted the image i guess.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:06 pm

The ark belongs to the resistance. They built with there tax money now they are getting screwed out of their right to live there by some bureaucratic political security smacks. I think it's time to bring some pain down on these greedy bastards are you ready brothers?
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:26 pm

The ark belongs to the resistance. They built with there tax money now they are getting screwed out of their right to live there by some bureaucratic political security smacks. I think it's time to bring some pain down on these greedy bastards are you ready brothers?


It was built by private investors, not tax dollars.
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Post » Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:23 pm

There is enough foor for just about 5.000 people. If you split it to equal rations for 50.000 people, everyone starves to death sooner than later.
Fishing the waters around the ARK empty is a not very thought through option, because it will as well only be a temporary solution. Plus it will probably be already part of the 5.000-people supply.


The subgoal you're talking about is -basicly- already known. Though there is no actual number (and depending on seasons, there will probably be different ressources available), it is clearly not enough. Hence why there is an upcoming Civil War.
Also the original 5.000 people (which, I guess, are mostly members and or supporters of the Security-Faction) will have slightly more ressources, but they still have only enough to survive for a longer time than the Resistance-People.

If 50.000 people stay on the ARK, it boils down to a breakdown of the system.


Probably because over 20 years there will not much generation-change be going on.


Again, its the responsibility of everyone to keep everyone live. Both from a basic moral perspective and the perspective of genetic diversity being PIVOTAL to a species longevity against basic things like plagues and disasters. The amount of food is not known, or they wouldnt be fighting. Taking 5000 peoples food so 5000 people starve to death and 5000 other people out of 50000 eat is ridiculously [censored]. Therefore, i seriously doubt theyd know how much food there is. All the status-quo talk implies its just a institution handed statistic anyway. Also, again, it was a 5 star eco resort. So the diets were probably lavish, and if cut down and stripped could probably supply a much larger amount of people. Obviously there is much more food then needed to ONLY support 5000 people or the 45000 would be starving to death or emaciated, but the resistance are all super fit soldiers, which requires a lil protein. The gripe is the guest descendents are on ration and the founder descendents are not. So if anyone is starving why wouldnt everyone optimize their diet/lifestyle to help those in need?

Of course it's a possible solution.

Similar to what happens all over Africa right now, where the Western countries would not change anything if people wouldn't basicly start a civil war.



Thats a bit off actually. The only thing the people in those countries needed to do was express their feelings in the face of their repressive govts, Libya's the only all out civil war. The reason westerners arent involved isnt because we couldnt help, but because we've proven ourselves to be notoriously untrustworthy with intervention policies, and many americans still furious about the iraq as well as many middle easterners have been watching the US very carefully. Being the only clearly justified revolution and something people were able to form an opinion before US involvement (due to the tech revolution) we're just being careful about homeland PR and moving very slowly in a situation we did not ever anticipate.
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