I think they look amazing and so does the majority.

Vsions isn't phased by your nitpicking, because he made the characters rugged looking on purpose. Not everyone is pretty. That's why you have sliders.

Don't think of the noble and fair Elves in D and D, think of the brutal slave masters sitting on their thrones in Cyrodiil's Ayleid ruins. Could you put one of these faces to the king of Nenalata? I know I could.

If the Dunmer didnt look so evil, I would like them. Also they seem to have lost the color variations that made them interesting. They all look kind of dead.

maybe im just misreading, but it sounds like you WANT the elves to be more human than elven...

of course the elves are going to be closer to orcs than humans, because orcs ARE elves, they're cursed, but they're still a form of elf.

dunmer used to be beautiful and golden-skinned chimer, now they're gruff blue people with fiery eyes and sound like they've been smoking volcano ash, which is awesome.

the elves now all have their own eye types... dunmer have red eyes, altmer have gold, and bosmer have those creepy jetblack bug-eyes.

atleast, those are their default eyes, im sure we can change them if we want.

im sure the character creator will allow us to do plenty with the faces, and like vsions said, there are always mods if you truly despise the new looks.

I think it's a stretch to say what Bethesda's creations should and should not be. It's all about how they want them to be, and it appears the majority of the fans agree with them.

Personally, I love all the elves' new appearance. I have only ever considered the Dunmer as the only interesting elven race, but Skyrim has changed my mind.

Thanks, I knew they reminded me of elves from some comedy series.
I think the Altmer psyche is a lot like the Disc elves and Altmer look exactly how Id imagine Disc elves

Bosmer also look like an actual woodland creature, almost like a satyr in some screenshots and this is better. Because as Y'ffre said elves are as human as Khajitt or Argonian.

Glad to see an apology. :thumbsup:

Dunmer have always had that evil look, except from Oblivion.. Atleast their not a blueberry anymore.

or the Altmer, they look kinda like they did in Daggerfall. At least I think so.

No, that still just doesn't fit. The Ayleids weren't a bunch of club swinging brutes, they were suave and sophisticated and extremely intelligent, they were just also ruthless and without compassion.


Also I think a lot of people are confusing Altmer and Ayleids.

That says nothing about their appearence.

Lions also look elegant and graceful but also unhuman.

Same here. I'm sure not every face in Skyrim will look like the presets we've seen, but out of those, they seem too rugged for High Elves. I realize this is Skyrim and that is to be expected to some extent. But when I think of an Altmer that looks down on people I think of a pretty boy Altmer mage with high cheekbones etc. (and perhaps there are several in Skyrim, again just basing on what I've seen)

All of the races seem more rugged, but I was hoping they'd tone it down just a bit for the Altmer. :shrug:

Alyeids and Altmer are both direct descendants of the Aldmer, the only real differences where cultural and religious. If it where the high elves that lived in primordial Cyrodil and not the Ayleids, they'd be just as brutal and cruel.

I think all of the races look ridiculous in the faces grouping...maybe with the exception of the Dunmer. All of the races look dirty and it looks like it's bad lighting on all of them. I think it was a rush job making the faces screens.

I've noticed, however, that the journalists' character screens look incredible, so it leads me to think that the faces they released aren't a good example of what we'll be seeing in the game. I think when the game comes out we'll be much more pleased with the way they look.

I do have an issue with Altmer having facial hair though, and that's something I don't anticipate changing.

Those came with the 3rd PGE, and are really quite generic (no sense of culture, essentially human faces with pointy ears). http://www.imperial-library.info/sites/default/files/pge01_aldmeri_art_01.jpg http://imperial-library.info/sites/default/files/imagecache/node-gallery-display/gallery_files/mw_TAoM_p03.jpg on for http://imperial-library.info/sites/default/files/gallery_files/mw_TAoM_p26.jpg.

I read your entire post and it seems like the reason you don't like the elves is because they don't resemble humans enough. But the truth is that elves are not humans, they are as different from humans as Argonians and Khajiit and should look the part. I personally don't like to see elves that just look like pretty humans with pointy ears because it doesn't make any sense for them to look that way. At the end of the day, there cannot be a defined look for elves because they don't exist. And I feel like it makes a lot more sense for the elves to look vastly different from humans because they are not humans.

Is it wrong that everything you described as bad, I found incredibly awesome?

I think elves in Skyrim look great. Especially the Altmer. Best videogame elves i've seen.

All elves come from the same stock. Probably reasonable to assume the Ayleids resembled the Altmer and Bosmer. And neanderthals weren't club swinging brutes either. True sapiens had a more developed society, but they were perhaps painted in an unfair way on discovery of their remains, for the very same reasons you are applying here.

THIS.
These look just like Skyrim Altmer and Dunmer. These are great. OP proven wrong, IMO.

Also, the OP needs to realize that Altmer, Bosmer, and Dunmer ARE NOT MEN OR HUMANS. They are ES Elves. They look however the artist decides they look.
And Vsions did great.

I think the altmer have well-refined looks. Strong chins, high cheekbones, and that look that says yes I am better than you. I automatically get a refined, snobbish feel from them. I think the elves look great and am really glad that they don't look like humans with pointy ears. The bosmer look like creepy little cannibals and dark elves just look pissed off which is the fee I gotl from them from Oblivion.

I personally can see the resemblance to Morrowind esque elven features in relation to the new presets. To me it's the natural curve in order to make elves seem a different genus than that of humans etc etc and I really dig it.

True, but like I've said before in the other thread, there is a visual language to character design, and not using it doesn't score you any points in my book.

Show a kid who's never seen Pinky and the Brain a picture of them and ask which one is Pinky and which one is the Brain. Good character design communicates what a character is about without needing any exposition.




Yea, those are great. Where are the big honking brow ridges? Where are the wide set eyes?

What's your point? You're showing me a bunch of good designs for elves that don't look too human and that is somehow supposed to convince me that the Skyrim designs don't look weird?

My only real complaints about the Elves:
Altmer: Those huge noses look lame and don't suit them at all in my opinion.
Dunmer: Those pronounced eyebrows look terrible in my opinion, it's like they have tumours on their faces.

And in general, although this one is just a problem with the presets and probably won't be present in actual gameplay; they all look so damn pissed off.

Other than that they look great.

And the current presets do that just fine and to the letter. They give off the feel of their respective elves.