Hello everybody!!!! Im spinat and i was working on CRI-Squad support. After many pms and positive posts in my Comments area i decided to ask you all if you whant the CRI project will be resurrected.

But first ill tell you a story=))))

. At the beginning I had no ideas of modding(my firs mod at all) ang modder ethic. Its true i took some work of other ppl without permissions but not because im a bad guy, the reason for it was my wrong thought that all mods which released here are open source and i may use them just as want it. Well thats was wron and im sorry for that.
As i started that should be only little addition to the enclave commander mod, tho only think i did was new items to the enclave guys...But i started adding more and more items.... and the actual enc. commander wasnt good enough for me....
Then i tried to script.... And i understood how to make it i got ideas and implemented them... heroes, AI, some weapons well this mod grew too quickly and i dinnt noticed how big its actually is... now i realize it and have to work more professional.

Now im trying to get all permissions i dont have or just remove work of other ppl whos permission i dont have. Yes i want bring my mod back... but it shall be legal and mature mod.....

Why im telling you all this things??? Because im only one modder who is working on this mod and its too big for me at the moment so i need some help.

There are some things i need where im not good in:

-My english svcks really, which means that i need an native speaker to make proper and correct readme file.
-I need talented photoshop gurus to make some really cool screenshots with CRI content to add them as menu screens
-I need some video gurus who could make cool CRI youtube videos

If anyone of you is good in any of this points plz pm me.

If you're going to make it completely legal in every way possible, I will respect you very much, and I will support you in every way I can.

If not, I'll ask for it to be taken down


In other words, if you're planning on asking permission for every single little mod you use, then go for it mate!

I'm going to ignore that, but seriously?

Anyway, I believe you have the right to keep modding whatever you want, but you need to know that what you did was wrong. You can't just take peoples work and deny that you did, only recently have you admitted it. I also believe that you should not be flamed like some people did, that was too far and things should have been sorted out in a more civilised manner. Now, if you are allowed by the Nexus team, which I think you should talk to them about before you 'resurrect' it, I believe you should start it up again if only for your fans. I'm also agreeing with the fact that since your mod is quite popular you need to make your mod alot more proffesional which you are aiming to do.

The main thing is that you MUST either get permission, or remove (which I see you have started) ALL content that was taken without permission. No more, 'PM me if you want credits'.

I'm glad your going to start up your mod again, and even happier that you are trying to make your mod right again. The last thing I think you should do is apologise to the modding community, especially the people you took things from.

Everyone deserves to be forgiven guys, and Spinat, even if I'm not his greatest fan, is in my opinion trying to make up for it. Don't flame him, the last thing we need is to start that up again, and this thread could already be locked anyway. The moderators don't want another flame-fest.

Things your mod should NOT do:

• override any vanilla records (e.g. last I checked there were many cases were vanilla records got overridden in very dubious ways).
  
• overwrite any vanilla models, textures or other asset files.

You should concentrate on doing one thing only, and that is adding your new characters (and items for them) and the minimum amount of change needed to glue them into the game world. So instead of e.g overwriting models/textures, there should be new models/textures with NEW item records for them. In cases where only textures have been changed, there should be NO new model file with just the texture paths changed. Instead there should be an item record using the original model and overriding the textures using MODS subrecords.

Hey hey dont close it plz!!!!!!! Im trying to recrute some help here...

Now know it but as i started i had no idea of modding... everyone need time to get better and i will take my time too. True there are some original items i changed but now im adding only new ones.

Guys thaks for constructive criticism but the point of this topic is to find the ppl who are willing to help me and not only the criticism... so plz if anybode can do it plz.

I really think you need help handling the community. You pretty much just said that your not sorry and just want to make your mod better, not make amends with us. I lost alot of respect for you then, not that I had that much to begin with.

Really, if you want to not screw yourself over I suggest you take the advice I gave earlier, and let someone else take care of being the representative of your mod because your not doing a very good job of it.

plz be civil and stop attacking me... Im not looking for stress. CRI-Squad is my project and i will represent it, plz let me make my own decision about what i shall do with my own mod. As mentioned before i ask you all politely to stop flaming me and maybe help me becouse i DO whant to make this mod right way. Plz dont close this thread.

First off just before I said I did not support the peopl who flamed you, and won't do the same. I did not attack you, I just thought you were being difficult to reason with. You seem to be misinterpreting my intentions, I don't want your mod to fail etc, I want you to continue it for the sake of your fans who deserve to be treated fairly, I just think you should take more car in the way you represent yourself, and when you decided to ignore our suggestions and just ask for people to help you, which we were trying to do, you were kind of telling us to F off. Take more care in what you say, even if you don't speak english very well, and people will take more care in the way that they say to you. In other words, be more considerate and you won't be flamed all the time. I know you want to make you own decisions but just think you need to put more though into how you communicate with the community that supports you.

And why do you keep telling me not to close this thread? Its not as if I could lol.

I don't think you understand.

This:


Sounded stupidly rude and selfish. It may not have been your intention, but that is how it sounded, and that earned you less polite and slightly annoyed answers.

And why do you keep telling me not to close this thread? Its not as if I could lol.


Im not asking YOU not cole the thread im spiaking with moderators.

Hes got enough comments on what he did, If you really think the guy needs more, you don't need to post it here..


...ANYWAY...

If you want, I could translate Your poor-english (No offence, mate. ) to good-english! Thats really all the skill I have though. Suppose I could help you get permissions and credits, too, if I needed to.

Im afraid youre misunderstanding that issue. The point of it is to concentrate our selfs on the Mod not on my person. The only reason i started this thread are too many pm of my fans who asking me to upload the mod again on enother resouce or just sent it over skype. I dont have time to upload this mod individually for everyone who whants it, so i have to make it central for everybody.

No i dont whant to hear how bad im this topic is for ppl willing to help the project, PROJECT is in the middle not persens... I hope you understand my intention.
Yes Im sorry for taken content. But some guys made that "stealing" thing to big. And i tell you why!

There is only one modder who asked me to remove his content!!!! ONLY ONE!

I have almoust all permissions.

Corrections bolded

I can correct your grammer if need be; I'm anol retentive when it comes to correct use of the English language.

EDIT: I missed an error in MrHappy(s) post the first time round

This community has rules; if you want respect then you must follow them.

First and foremost, you must get the express written consent to use any other modder's work. Period. You must do this beforehand. Many modders include such permissions in their readmes; others ask for a quick message to ask for it. Some don't allow others to use their work at all. If you want respect here, you must respect other modders. That is not optional.

This is not an issue of legality, per se - the CS's EULA makes the legal status of mods rather murky, which is at least apparently partially intentional (kind of like a "don't ask so we won't have to say no" kind of deal), it's just a matter of respect and community. However, while we're on the subject of legality - using assets from any other game without the express written consent of the developers of that game is theft and that is illegal. Your mod was accused of that; I don't know if that's true, but if it is then your mods will be pulled from mod-hosts and your threads here would be locked.

While we're on the subject, I believe there was a screenshot of the Crysis power-suit in your mod entry, which spawned the complaint about copyright infringement, to which you replied that it was only in the screenshot and not in the mod. While better than actual theft, it's still a really bad idea to mis-label your mod, mis-lead your users, and lie about what's actually in the mod. If you want respect, show enough respect to your users to actually be honest with them.

After that, you have to consider functionality and compatibility. Big mash-up mods are often frowned upon because they often have bugs, often offer few options to players, and very often are compatibility nightmare. It's entirely optional, but you'll get a lot more respect if you can handle those problems.

Finally, for the love of god, this is not instant messaging. Please, please, please use at least a modicum of proper spelling and grammar. Capitalization and punctuation will go a long way to make your posts more intelligible. This will help your reputation, limit the amount of problems due to miscommunication, and generally make you look more mature and intelligent. Maturity and intelligence go a long way here.

Yeah, but where's the MrHappy(s) spirit?

Fun Off-Topic Fact- The (s) stands for small!

And you were one of them. Don't blame this on anyone else.

You don't seem to understand that you can have as many good videos and great grammar and photoshops, but lots of people will still not download your mod if you make ignorant and selfish comments like you did. You get pissed at us when we try to help you, and that means your not helping yourself. You asked if you should resurrect CRI squad and I told you my answer, which was supportive of you and could have helped you, but you decided to tell me to F off and things like that are doing nothing but hurting you and your mods reputation. Your not going to get any of the help you wanted if you are just rude to them.

I'm starting to see that you are to afraid of swallowing your pride and admitting when something you do is wrong, so I'd suggest you don't resurrect your mod, it will just end badly.

I didnt post in your other thread spinat, however i did observe it. My opinion is that you should recieve all permissions from the authors who you took work from. Once thats done its smooth sailing, if you want help from this community you need to show respect from them. You cant just ask for it and expect it. I will gladly help you out, even though my skills in the GECK are limited. Show respect to the community and the community will respect you.

Edit: Follow what DragoonWraith has said, he sums it up very well. Follow that and you will be respected and liked by most people.

thnaks a lot... I would be really happy if you could make proper readme file with ALL CREDITS and good discription of the mod.

Thank you guys!

Nah-ah, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to write the readme for you. Write it out, and I'll edit it for you

I'll write it out. :deal:

All yours

Want me to edit it afterwards, or will you be right?

Why you people not stop bashing him?
He is still young and made some mistakes. So now he try to do it better, so no need for harassment again.

@Spinat

You should start at first clean your mod up with F3Edit or TESSNIP.
Remove entries, that are not needed for your Mod -> Music etc.

Your Mod is focused on a Squad Team. So try to not change anything else of the game.
Then ask permission, normally modders are kind people and give it to you. Make a Link to their Mod.

Take out all Stuff, for that permission was denied.

Upload it again after this 3 steps and dont care about all these folks, that only consuming everything
and clutter the forums with their [censored] but dont have to give anything to the Game themselfs.

Gretz

I've got microsoft word to do that for me, but thanks anyway. :flex: One of the reasons my grammar and spelling are so sloppy. I've let computers steal my skill! Oh yeah, forgot to mention I'm not microsoft word right now. Hmm. It seems I am rambaling again. Plus I am sure I forgot to mention something important. I should really get back to work, too..

Hmm. We need a :flex: emoticon! But for now, this, will do. :mohawk: