Return of glass weponry? : V - Skyrim

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:34 pm

YES! Id be scared if this guy came charging at me with akimbo scimitars... that on top of the fact that he is shouting fire and lightning at me... WOAH

It's going to svck to be a hostile NPC in Skyrim.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:07 pm

You don't know that. And I don't actually know that it is. I think it definitely has the characteristics of glass though. It's reflecting a light source, which is why it doesn't look exactly the same as the Elven Glass in the Wraith picture.

Metal reflects light too. It's not glass.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:50 am

It's going to svck to be a hostile NPC in Skyrim.

LOL, no kidding. I mean, Not only is the NPC fighting against a crazed nord dual wielding scimitars running at you while using the force push shout to knock things out of your way like some sort of a medieval Jedi, he then starts throwing up fire and lightning while he woops yo' ass. :facepalm:

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:29 pm

Metal reflects light too. It's not glass.

Looks like glass to me. More than the color or the odd reflective properties of the blade, the construction and how the cutting edge is fit into its holding makes me believe it is, in fact, a Glass Scimitar.

I will admit though, at first I didn't believe that the Glass Elven Sword was glass. It appeared too opaque and closer to Ebony, while this scimitar is actually closer to the traditional Glass from Oblivion and Morrowind.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:34 pm

LOL, no kidding. I mean, Not only is the NPC fighting against a crazed nord dual wielding scimitars running at you while using the force push shout to knock things out of your way like some sort of a medieval Jedi, he then starts throwing up fire and lightning while he woops yo' ass. :facepalm:

at the same time, he is pushed into the field... and a dragon picks him up... (its a glass dragon to stay on topic) and throws him all the way to oblivion (hahah pun intended

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» Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:59 pm

Looks like glass to me. More than the color or the odd reflective properties of the blade, the construction and how the cutting edge is fit into its holding makes me believe it is, in fact, a Glass Scimitar.

I will admit though, at first I didn't believe that the Glass Elven Sword was glass. It appeared too opaque and closer to Ebony, while this scimitar is actually closer to the traditional Glass from Oblivion and Morrowind.

Gonna disagree. It looks absolutely nothing like glass. It has knicks in it like it's some sort of a semi-pliable or soft metal of some unknown origin, but it looks absolutely nothing like Glass.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:21 pm

[color="#9932CC"][b]I'm not that fond of glass equipment... I realize they're probably made differently so that they aren't so brittle as their names suggest, but I always wondered why I would wear glass armor when it looks like you could shatter it with a pebble! o.o

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Glass is a form of ultra-hard Volcanic glass. Its not the sand-based glass we use.

TES's "glass" is like diamond.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:23 am

Gonna disagree. It looks absolutely nothing like glass. It has knicks in it like it's some sort of a semi-pliable or soft metal of some unknown origin, but it looks absolutely nothing like Glass.

The Elven Glass Sword has nicks and pitting as well. And I disagree, I think it looks exactly like the Glass from Oblivion in particular. A grey-green base around a luminescent green blade.

The biggest counter-argument anyone can have, is that it looks so different from the already-confirmed Elven Glass Sword. I don't care about your "Real World" anolysis, TES isn't the real world, and it's glass is not the glass we are familiar with.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:27 pm

I have no problem with them adding it, won't take much of their time I don't think, but honestly I don't get it... Glass? Maybe a glass shard in a dirty brawl, but a glass claymore makes no sense to me. Glass is heavy and fragile. A glass helmet seems like a recipe for blinding yourself. That being said, it can look kinda neat being all see-through and all.

Edit: Oooh, I see, so like diamonds or something but lighter...makes more sense I guess...

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:04 pm

Glass is a material. Claymores are of Breton origin, yet there are Glass Claymores.

Er, I think claymores would be of Nord origin. The nords are like the Scots and "Claymores" are Scottish. Claymore is a modern interpretation of a Gaelic word that means "Great sword."

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:18 pm

Yeah the volcanic glass sounds better than sand glass... Say a pigment is added to the volcanic lava to give it the color... idk about the transparency... some things dont need explanations

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:06 pm

I you remember, the glass weaponry in Oblivion was the green clear weapons. Swords, armor, arrows the whole nine yards. I personally want those to come back, except perhaps in more colors. What did you guys think of Glass weapons or armor?

its been confirmed that glass and daedric items are back, hopefully they are rare this time

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:22 pm

That is not glass.

I kind of agree

I have no problem with them adding it, won't take much of their time I don't think, but honestly I don't get it... Glass? Maybe a glass shard in a dirty brawl, but a glass claymore makes no sense to me. Glass is heavy and fragile. A glass helmet seems like a recipe for blinding yourself. That being said, it can look kinda neat being all see-through and all.Edit: Oooh, I see, so like diamonds or something but lighter...makes more sense I guess...

The glass is Volcanic Glass, if you want something to compare it too, it is like the volcanic glass swords used by Aztec Warriors. The blades could cut a horses head clean off in one strike soo.... yah deadly and shiny!!

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:42 am

Actually, yeah after a certain point in Ob, it was like, every goony had either Daedric, mithril, glass or dwarven... Perhaps if they were rarer?
well I still loved them the best

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:23 pm

Dwarven IMO should be rarer, especially since the Dwarves went exrinct a long time ago.Unless people have discovered how to craft like Dwarves adn tehy call it Dwarven because its made in the same fashion,

I agree though that Glass and Daedric should be rarer, and since there is no super level scaling hopefully this will come into play.

Mithril to me seemed pretty ordinary almost as if it was just a slightly better version of steel, yah know.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:18 am

You don't know that. And I don't actually know that it is. I think it definitely has the characteristics of glass though. It's reflecting a light source, which is why it doesn't look exactly the same as the Elven Glass in the Wraith picture.

Glass is a material. Claymores are of Breton origin, yet there are Glass Claymores.

As for the Scimitar itself, what province uses Scimtars? Yah, that's right, the Dunmer of Morrowind.

Actually... the Khajiit of Elsweyr use Scimitars more. And Redguards of Hammerfell.

And Dwarven stuff is common because while it's true the dwarves disappeared millenia ago... they left lots of Dwarven stuff behind, and it doesn't stay broken.

I liked Oblivion's glass armor: The lightweight glass plates looked effective at deflecting indirect blows (Which glass's hardness and brittleness makes it particularly good at), while the metal wiring gives it the flexibility to bend under blunt trauma, as well as move freely over the wearer's body.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:27 am

They're already back, we have a screenshot of two. An Elven Glass Sword, and a Glass Scimitar.

They look much more conservative this time, which I like. I hated the borderline Jedi Consular green color they sported before. Now they look like the volcanic glass they are. I can't wait to see the armor.

Hey, anyone wanna link me that glass scimitar? If this is true I could quite possibly be rolling a Drizzt character...

Edit: Saw what Ulgy was offering and if that is the glass scimitar, I will not be rolling a Drizzt, that thing isn't nearly as sleek as I imagined Twinkle and Icingdeath to be.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:08 am

Actually... the Khajiit of Elsweyr use Scimitars more. And Redguards of Hammerfell.

And Dwarven stuff is common because while it's true the dwarves disappeared millenia ago... they left lots of Dwarven stuff behind, and it doesn't stay broken.

Redguards favor the Cutlass over the scimitar (Falchion actually). The Redguards do invoke that sense of Persian Gulf culture, though they have a distinct origin, vastly different from the Men, mer and beast-races.

Morrowind is built around sort of that Nile River middle East/Mediterranean feel, especially down in Indoril territory. The Trademark weapons of the Dunmer people, the Hopesfire and Trueflame are a Tulwar and Scimitar though. Iconic Near-Eastern(Indian in particular) weapons, though crafted by the Dwemer.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:22 pm

Redguards favor the Cutlass over the scimitar (Falchion actually). The Redguards to invoke that sense of Persian Gulf culture, though they have a distinct origin, vastly different from the Men, mer and beast-races.

Morrowind is built around sort of that Nile River middle East/Mediterranean feel, especially down in Indoril territory. The Trademark weapons of the Dunmer people, the Hopesfire and Trueflame are a Tulwar and Scimitar though. Iconic Eastern weapons, though crafted by the Dwemer.

So is northern Elsweyr... though it seems to have gone for a combo between Mongol and Turkish culture since the original Arabian Nights conception.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 7:56 pm

So is northern Elsweyr... though it seems to have gone for a combo between Mongol and Turkish culture since the original Arabian Nights conception.

See, I don't have a lot of info on Elsweyr, which Is why I'm not talking about it.

We have a lot of info on the Iliac bay region, and Stros M'kai (believed to represent greater Hammerfell), but all the info we have on Elsweyr comes from third-party sources, unless you count Arena, which I don't think effectively painted the province in an enlightening manner.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 10:07 pm

See, I don't have a lot of info on Elsweyr, which Is why I'm not talking about it.

We have a lot of info on the Iliac bay region, and Stros M'kai (believed to represent greater Hammerfell), but all the info we have on Elsweyr comes from third-party sources, unless you count Arena, which I don't think effectively painted the province in an enlightening manner.

The part of Elsweyr in the Infernal City was technically not third party information because it had to be approved by Beth as canon right?

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 5:31 pm

The part of Elsweyr in the Infernal City was technically not third party information because it had to be approved by Beth as canon right?

What I mean is, we as players haven't experienced Elsweyr in the same context as Daggerfall, Hammerfell, Morrowind, Cyrodiil, and soon, Skyrim. We only hear about it, which is third-party information.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 11:30 am

its never been confirmed that its elven glass

It actually has. By multiple Devs. And articles. And E3. 100% confirmed that it's glass.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:09 am

I never thought glass anything was practical. And I dont like the green look of it.

» Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:40 pm

I never thought glass anything was practical. And I dont like the green look of it.

Window Glass =/= Fictional Ultra-hard Volcanic glass

Once again, TES "glass" that is found in vvardenfell is similar to what Diamond is to us, except not so brittle.