Nah the Dwemer should not come back, better and more interesting that they remain a mystery than come back to Tamriel

Should the dwemer race return? : No

Should we be given a hint to their dissaperance. That doesnt conflict with the other 3 possibilities?: Maybe

should a player be able to contact another Dwemer: hell yes

Should there be a playable race: HELL NO!!!!

The dwemer have beem in the games since Morrowind. I think daggerfall and arena as well, But not sure. Get over yourself.

Holy [censored]. Yes. I also had a thought that if for some reason they made a TES movie. That should be the setting

If the Dwemer did return, they had better have lost their knowledge. Nothing Bethesda came up with for them could match my preconceptions or theories on them and what they did to the Falmer makes me cynical.

In Daggerfall there were Dwarven weapons and armour and Fang Lair is said to be a Dwarven ruin in Arena.

-shrug- Read the hows and whys a few times, I dont get it at all.

But then, is a knowledge-less Dwemer really a Dwemer at all? That's the whole appeal for me. If they were being brought back, I'd prefer at least an attempt to make them the super-geniuses they were, ones the player can't really learn that much from. And MK should write all of their dialogue, and in crazy metaphysical pseudobabble.

But, again, I don't think it's reasonably possible to do the Dwemer justice in-game.

100000% agree

I think they should return, but in a quest of some kind...
no, they shouldn't be a playable race...maybe in the next next elder scrolls but if they returned in the next it would be a kind getting the feet wet experiment thing before diving in.

T.T you just crushed my dreams... Then where did they goooo!!!!! Oh my goodness this is driving me crazy!

Again, this is why the Dwemer are so interesting.

Actually, this fact is still up for debate. Neither side is 100% due to contradicting evidence. Isn't this exciting!?!

But Vivec lies. All the time. The whole of the sermons is (sort of) a lie. What if he was just trying to keep the Dwemer hidden?

I've long felt this to be more of a case of Vivec pretending to be far more powerful than he actually is/was. Or at least thinking himself to be more powerful. When I read that bit about him not being able to sense the Dwemer in the realm outside of time or whatever, I just thought to myself: "Umm... maybe that's because you're senses aren't as sharp as you think they are? What do you think of that Mr. Floater?"

Then again I've never held a high opinion of any of the Living Gods, mainly since they weren't real gods like the Daedra, who couldn't be killed by whacking a disembodied heart with a pair of weapons made almost four thousand years ago by a mortal.

I believe that they escaped all of reality, that they achieved through technology what a buddhist wants to do through meditation. To escape the cycle entirely, to reach a new state of being transcending gods and the dimensions as we know them. Whether it was their plan or not, their physical bodies were reduced to ash and their being was sapped out of the very fabric of reality to a place that is simply somewhere else.

They didn't just simply jump over to the Dreamsleeve and stay there, nor did they set up shop somewhere in Oblivion, they transended to a higher plane of existence to use a semi-accurate term. From my basic understanding of Elder Scrolls Metaphysics, they achieved CHIM through technology and understanding of the true nature of the universe.

If any of this violates already known lore, please, please tell me.

Vivec is a poet. Poets use lies to tell the truth. The sermons are a prime example. They may have plenty of lies, but they are lies that guide you to the truth. You can even find two hidden messages in the sermons that blatantly admit to murdering Nerevar. And most of your direction conversations with him are truthful. I also see no reason why Vivec would lie about the Dwemer. And considering that his is the only word from a god, I think it'd be too presumptuous not to listen.

There's plenty of debate as to whether or not the Tribunal and Dagoth Ur are actually dead. After all, Vivec explains how he exists in two separate states, the "mortal" aspect that is there, talking to the player, and the "god" aspect that is outside of time and space and is everywhere. While the Heart was still active, those two aspects were one. When the Heart was disenchanted, they split. Thus, the "mortal" aspect could be killed, but the "god" aspect lives on. Can you ever truly kill a god?
It's similar to the case of Mannimarco after the Warp in the West. There was the mortal aspect, which we encounter in Oblivion as the Altmer necromancer, and the god aspect, which we see as the Necromancer's Moon.

Bleh. I destroyed the Heart of Lorkhan, Dagoth Ur disappeared and the Tribunal got de-powered. Until Loincloth Man shows his ugly three-eyed face again in an ES game, I don't care about whatever "aspect" of him is floating out in the cosmos.

This is also why I don't like messing with time travel. It's a can of worms best left unopened.

Maybe we will find out at the end of the elder scrolls 6 . We will be in the Summberset isle and the Thalmor got their hands on the heart of lorkhan .The same thing will happen. All the members of the Thalmor elite (not the highelves but only those high elf nobility that were involved with the Thalmor) will either disapear without reason(like the dwarves) or maybe something will happen that will completely explain what happend the dwemer and the same will happen to the Thalmor. Or they might disturb the Dwemer's realm and awaken them.

The dwemer shoud totally return. In the form of an reconstructed walking brass numidium. That is about it though. Numidium would be cool to look at imo. Would also be hilarious forthe Dunmer to attain it and in a totally unheard move just wipe out the Aldmeri Dominion...again. That would make me laugh so effing hard!

But real living breathing dwemer? Nah they should stay as much a mystery as possible.

How in the Nine Hells is anyone who makes their home in the Mundus supposed to acquire the Heart of Lorkhan, let alone the Thalmor?

Reforged Mantella. Find another Shezarrine. Put Shezarrines soul into Numidium. Boot it up. Daggerfall style! Really it could have any number of explanations. It would not be easy and idk what even happened to the original numidium but it could be possible.

I'm talking about the Heart of Lorkhan, not the Numidium (which was either destroyed or permanently deactivated). The Mantella was basically a stand-in for the Heart, and though it worked in that application, but it is not the same thing in the least.

Of course it isn't? I was just assuming you thought the Heart of Lorkhan was the only way the Numidium could be reactivated. The Heart of Lorkhan is probably off limits for good though.

I would think so, given that it was destroyed, or at least the physical manifestation of it in the Mundus was. The way ES lore works, that doesn't necessarily mean that it couldn't return to the Mundus, though I can only imagine what it would take for that to happen.

Not much given the past of TES lore tbh. It could manifest itself in any number of ways. Lorkhan's bodies and spirit affect so much on Nirn anyways that it is entirely possible the heart could manifest itself in any number of ways now that I think on it. That however is a question that deserves a thread in the Lore forum or at least the search for one.

It was not destroyed. It was disenchanted and then disappeared. Destroying the Heart of the World would kill the world. The Heart of Lorkhan is somewhere, we just don't know where.