Graphically, BGS hasn't done anything really industry-pushing since Oblivion. They are leagues behind Crytek, DICE (by consequence BioWare), and CDPR. That's not to say Fallout 4 isn't still a pretty game, but it's not even on the same level as The Witcher 3, Star Wars Battlefront, or even Batman: Arkham Knight (all of which are open world).

With respect to the topic of Angry Joe, I never understood the appeal. Reviews, in general, are pretty idiotic, in my opinion. The only person who can judge whether a game is going to be good or not... is you. Having some mouthpiece try and tell you what you will like or don't like has always been perplexing to me. While I do find someone like totalbiscuit to be a bit more credible as he actually seems to understand game development, Angry Joe does not at all.

I've seen his reviews on and off since at least 2011. Never once have I truly believed he didn't run on anything besides bias and fanboyism. The only game I remotely agreed with him on was ESO, but other than that he got famous for being loud and obnoxious. He just isn't very articulate, he typically isn't very objective, and he just likes to yell and scream to get attention. He is more of an "entertainer" than an actual "reviewer," but that's just my opinion on him.

i know he reviews are funny and all but he tent to complain about some stuff and he let pass on other game. I just like to watch him and laugh but really his reviews are full with his personal opinions. After the fiasco of him giving Witcher 3 a 10/10 i lost fight on him.

And the companion part. I really need to find a game that companions dont become idiots.

One think i notice, but his game look horrible and his elevator "loadscreens" are [censored] lonnnng. Nothing compare to my experience so i think he lies when he said he have a really good rig to play the game.

He nailed most of the problems Fallout 4 have and this is more than you can expect from reviewers these days. I totally agree with him regarding the dialog, the old engine and the loading times.

It means the experience is already overly familiar and there aren't many 'wow' moments. It also means that they saved a LOT in development time and costs that really could have been used elsewhere in places that would really make a difference. Instead of devoting resources to record 13k lines of awkward protagonist dialogue that pretty much everyone agrees is far too out of place and limiting, they could have dumped it into crafting a better experience in the world, in settlements, in armor and gear, anything at all. The money they saved was spent in places that didn't make the game stronger, and certainly wasn't spent on a new engine.

In fact, the whole exercise was to port Skyrim over, right? Get ready for a quick cash-grab in the future when they release it on xbox one. This game paid for the port of that game to next gen, and they will make money on top of that.

I don't begrudge them a profit because that's how studios stay in business, but despite the rave reviews by the big names this game is the lowest rated by the players of all their titles. I think that 8/10 is more than fair and 7/10 graphically. It's a fun game, but AJ is right in that this is probably the last one that even the game sites whose objectivity and integrity were already in question will be willing to turn a blind eye to and rate highly despite flaws. It's time for some major updates.

It's always very interesting to see the reaction this forum has to any sort of criticism toward a game. We could do a case study on this. This is always one of the first one's you see: someone trying to discredit the critic who has an opinion that doesn't match up with their own.

Then you get into the "they didn't play long enough" argument.

Then the "[insert critic here] must just not like Fallout or bethesda games

Then the "[insert critic here] must just be an obsidian really devoted fan who wanted another new vegas"

Then the "[insert critic here] is afraid of change"

Then the "[insert critic here] well the world disagrees with you because so many people bought the game"

It's like clockwork.

SOOOOO u mean the new craft system is poor, new settlement is poor. Armor and gear is poor.

So what u get from a game like Witcher 3 where armor and crafting have 0 innovation from any other game.

What im getting is just ppl complain about everything this days.

IS more fallout have more "wow" moment, that Witcher 3 had. So yeah i really dont know where ppl want to get.

That was actually quite funny. I enjoyed his reaction when he completely missed firing a mini nuke at his target. "DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THOSE COST?!?"

I'm on board with him on the graphics and his reaction to Mama Murphy. I was totally blown away when I saw how muchhttps://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7330/10280492854_f96a1be23e_b.jpg. When I saw Mama Murphy I was in shock. Her face looks like it melted from all the chems.

That being said, I think this is a great game. It may not be the best looking game, but it's still great.

Games in series tend to be familiar. Oblivion and Skyrim feel similar imo and so does FO3 and New Vegas. It's the same thing people say about COD and what was said about Batman Arkham Knight. Games in a series are going to play similar. As for "wow moments" I don't remember any being in Oblivion,Skyrim, or FO3.

They tried new things with Fallout 4. If they work or not is the question.

If you find it immersive to steal a NPC's possessions in front of him and he doesn't give a crap as well as him PAYING YOU MORE MONEY for completing a quest he's give you, then that's not my problem. The game is terrible. The combat is terrible. Any game where you can block with your sword in the same place and the enemy hits it EVERY TIME is not 10/10 material, it's not even 9/10 material, sorry. The combat should be THE most important part of that game and it svcks. Anyone who doesn't understand that shouldn't be giving reviews.

Always amusing to see people complain about graphics.

Not only do they out themselves as shallow aesthetes but F2 was my first Fallout game and before that I played games that were all text or just plain stick figures.

Mostly it was awful and graphics have obviously improved since the days of my childhood which I heartily approve of.

I'm fine with the graphics of Fallout 1, 2, 3 and now 4 or text games if it comes to that.

Function over form, that's one of my mottos. Make it work and fix the bugs and mechanics before bothering about how pretty things look.

Actually, the most important part of any CDPR game is the story, which thankfully TW3 has an amazing story, as did TW2 and TW1. As far as the combat system, it's one of the best in the industry to date. It's more or less a mixture of AC combat and BA combat. I find your criticisms to be overly ridiculous and unwieldy as no game would live up to your standards. Whether TW3 deserves a 10/10 or a 9/10 or whatever else is irrelevant. It is a great game and it has done extremely well, as has Fallout 4. I don't know which game will receive more GotY awards, but both definitely deserve them.

Anyway, I just watched the review and AJ really doesn't say anything more than the obvious. He's outright wrong about elevators and load screens more generally. He must have a really weak CPU as none of my load screens have ever been that long. Obviously, the Creation Engine is dated, but BGS just isn't one to overhaul and constantly bolster their engine with each game like other developers. Overall, it's just nice to see he recognizes the game is fun and addicting even if it's not perfect and certainly execution wasn't perfect in every area.

So to paraphrase he disagrees with my opinion and really really likes a game I wasn't as into as him. Therefore he is invalid and struggling for controversy which is why he chose to stop covering Nintendo completely instead of simply being more careful about them.

I like AJ alright but I suggest you watch the recent jimquisition for someone who will talk about how dumb it is to try to invalidate someone based on them really liking something you don't. I likes some games AJ doesn't and didn't like some games AJ likes. That doesn't mean he is an invalid source of his opinion but instead it means we are different people.

Especially about the elevator... sometimes I get kind of a long loading screen but I have never had an elevator be that excessive. In fact, it usually feels natural. And I have an old i7 960.

Yeah. I've been playing Fallout 4 on my laptop (over 90 hours in-game), which is not a gaming PC by any stretch of the word, and load screens have always been fine for me. At most they might be ten seconds, but usually they are pretty quick. It definitely doesn't feel like Mass Effect 1 elevator rides, even though I never felt like those were as horrible as gamers made them out to be.

I'm assuming once I play Fallout 4 on my actual high-end gaming PC, load screens will be even faster. I've heard they are somewhat slow on consoles, but that's to be expected due to hardware limitations. Either way, BGS really needs to overhaul their engine and cut down on load screens. Trying to compare Fallout 4 to The Witcher 3 or Dragon Age Inquisition is comparing apples to oranges, but it doesn't look good when competitors in the same market have games that are comparatively just as big and much more efficient with less load screens.

yeah really dont know anything about combat, is the main critic about Witcher 3, is really poor and worst part is super easy to work around combat, like sprinting with your horse trow a camp and 1 shooting enemies. Plus again, u point it out, the only strong point on the Witcher game is story, and to a point. (running behind Ciri w/o reason from the pass game is weird if u didnt read the books). But really CDPR sell me the Witcher 3 as a great exploration game when it fail horrible since maps are full with NOTHING. AI on the enemies is terrible sometimes getting trap between trees and all that [censored]. So yeah i will not give the Witcher a 10 no meter how much ppl want to prize a game that was over rated. Look i didnt give Fallout 4 a 10 either but the game is more fun that Witcher is.

I like AJ. I disagree with him on some of his reviews (MGS V for starters), and he's probably a bit over-zealous with Witcher 3 (it's not a 10 for me, but it's better than Fallout 4 - narratively). With that said, if you can go around touting a thread claiming this game is game of the decade, then people can go around saying it's not.

This is a great game but it's deeply flawed and suffers from a severe identity crisis.

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Also, AJ's metric for games is different than the traditional system (like 7 = C, 8 = B, 9 = A, etc). A rating of 5 for AJ is average - it's halfway but not quite there. So, an 8 for Fallout is pretty damn good.

yeahhh, i notice that too, i have a I5 and my loading screen arent that long. Plus when he is speaking with mama, i notice his Graphics are the best either. So really AJ review is just that his opinion.

What make a Studio get fire isnt the critics, are the sells numbers a game get. Crititcs is what make player buy a game. Plus u need to see the numbers of player ratting vs the %. NV have a fraction of player ratting the game on steam while Fallout 4 have almost 26k ppl already, and 22k of those are recommending the game.

Plus metacritic reviews the players ones are philatelic with ppl giving 0 bc someone else told them. Is more is been like that for a while on metacritic in general

Good review. Too lenient if anything. What were they even thinking with the dialog...

yeah i for me is my only complain i have with the game the Dialog..

Same. And it hurts more than anything else because it is the only thing that cannot be fixed with mods.

yeahh i know i mean i love the Voice protagonist bc i love hearing him when i use chems. But thew new dialogues system make me hate it sometimes. more bc i reload to redo some conversation just to ask something different.

Its a really fair review, especially that ending, bethesda needs to take notes. He took the words right out of my mouth, this is the last game we can forgive all these problems, next time things really need to change, the next elder scrolls (or fallout again) really needs to be a generational leap.

Pretty accurate review... he shouldn't have come right out from the beginning and said that he recommends it. Kind of dilutes his points.