Um...your providing examples for what I bolded....did you read my post? :confused:

Review from an Oblivion lover... Skyrim is so much better,


Not much more needs to be said.

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you haven't contributed one single remotely constructive thing to this tread - just no

some changes i like in skyrim such as nerfing some aspects of magic that were completely unbalanced. for instance in oblivion you could either pick security or alteration which along with open locks spells allowed you to have a slew of other spells at your disposal as well. why would anyone pick security except purely for RP value and also considering that oblivioins lock pick minigame was very easy. obviously magic needs some fine tuning in skyrim but im glad that if you want the really good effects you have to improve alchemy and magic is no longer a mutli-tool that does anything and everything with a simple way of the hand.

im definitely glad that they got rid of chameleon and if you want silent spells you have to put 3 of those precious perk points into the illusion tree. so that helps alot with the stealth factor.

the game is far better than obliivon in just about every respect but after 150 hours myself..........its getting rather shallow. i played morrowind vanilla for several hundred hours before i even added my first mods. oblivion i had to mod before i even finished the first playthrough. skyrim seems like its in between those two games.

im glad for my purchase though and with some FCOM or TIE like mods for skyrim i think it will be one of my all time favorite games at least until fallout 4 comes out. :sadvaultboy:

Haha ok now i feel dumb sorry about that! ;D

Yeah true i guess ^^

the content is just too repetitive. one type of cave, one type of fort, and one type of ruins.

Such a step back from morrowind. I actually wanted to find things because I knew it'd be new each time. But in skyrim it's the same as oblivion. The dungeons have different layouts sure, but they're still very short (unless you play stealth) and all have the exact same tileset and feel.

Not to mention the horrible mob variety. I remember oblivion having a larger variety of mobs

Honestly, I have not read all of you review, but I am amazed that you have played more than 200 hours already.
I know it can be done, but seriously, I am not that passionnate about the game. I mean, I love it, but even
if I have it since launch, I have 30 hours of playtime.

I think what they did to the skill system is good(perks), I like the mechanic changes, but its just overall lacking.

Edit: I always see the complaints about the lack of dungeon templates to be kind of silly, because Morrowind didnt really have many more. It was either Dwemer, Daedric, or brown cave.

And I totally agree about the storylines lacking, the factions are basically just longer generic side-quests. Honestly I wouldnt have a problem with less generic "Quest from some random NPC with no personality to fetch his family heirloom from some cave" and some more developed and expanded factions.

It's cool bro

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This forum's post limit is of 200 posts . I'm not making up stuff.

Great job to the OP, I whole heartedly agree with you're review. and it's extremely saddening to realize where the elder scroll series is heading...

dare I say are we getting a bit fableish??

Don't hate on the grottos, bro.

Having played it for 150+ hours (not even finished it yet once :hehe:) i agree. Except about skills, because i didn't read it, because i've only used quite few skills and perk trees so far. I do like the idea of the new leveling and perk system though. The base is better, but the attention to detail is missing; Oblivion did many small details better. And magic was superior in it too.

Much of that could be fixed with patches or DLC, well see how those change the game. And since they are releasing the creation kit for us PC players i've no doubt i will be playing for years to come. Until Fallout 4 atleast :hehe:

My TL;DR would be about: It is a great game, but it could have been [censored] AWESOME! with a little more work. :shrug:

Edit: And i didn't even mention the UI. Guess i'm getting used to it :lmao:

I love skyrim ^^ well i dont agree with you OP.But everybody has different opinions.
And i am a morrowind lover too.I think it is like this
Morrowind/Skyrim>Oblivion
and skyrim feels like coming home to me.i get that morrowind feeling all over again.i also love the character design,they look like morrowind characters with better graphics.And Dark elves are cool again
I have played the game for about 150 hours

I aggre with almost everything you've said.

Though I would have to say that I assume all bonuses are purposfully the same to make it more feasible to wear whatever you want, regardless of the stats. If I think my leather armour looks great, I can still use it without getting my ass handed to me repeatedly, rather than have to resort to glass, or whatever.

I would also be interested in your opinion on the voice acting. I, for one, find it to be terrible. I don't care about our own historical accuracy, I loved the old Nordic voices. I don't want my Dunmer to sound like some fancy schmancy guy and I don't like how many actors are just a standard American speaking down a mic. Wouldn't surprise me if they just picked some random guy off the streets for some of this acting. :/

I agree with most of what you said. And for the bits with which I disagree, I appreciate your well thought out comments.

Also, +1 for the binary reference at the end.

That was a well thought out review. I disagree with a few points, but only a little. I do however, disagree with your ending statement. There are perceivable effects on the world reflected in the game by what you do, what you wear and with certain choices that are made. None of this was in Oblivion (except one minor side-quest that was pointed out to me yesterday). I do think they added some better RPG elements back into the series from what I have experienced. But, when I look back on Oblivion, this game made me feel better again about the series, for want of a better expalantion. Oblivion was a total letdown for me in that nothing I did had any effect on plots or the game-world, other than my reputation. Oblivion was just amazing for the realm I could explore, outside of those repeated looks of the caves and castles. Morrowind is still better than Skyrim though, but any TES game from III to V cannot compare, even combined altogether to Daggerfall, IMO.

I agree with some of your points but....As far as the Magic: I am playing a Nord Battle Mage with an attitude and my destruction spells are getting more and more powerful as I level up in that skill. I especially love the Fire Ball Spell. First it was a weak explosion, now it is loud, massive and does significant damage.

Great review. I agree with you about 98% of it, but overall, nice job. You were constructive yet you still showed its not a bad game.

I disagree. 100%. I don't think this game is "less deep" in any way. While certain things may have been removed from previous games, even more stuff was added.

I still disagree, but that's just what it is I guess.

I too hate the term, because it implies that I am "dumb" because I like it. I also think that it's rather insulting, and quite frankly, wrong, in regards to a game like Morrowind, Oblivion, or Skyrim that has so much depth and complexity.

Haha, nice!

NPCs actually noticed your status- This happens in Skyrim as well. Unless I was totally just tripping off drugs all the times NPC's referred to me as Dragonborn and made various remarks about it, recognized my status in the College of Winterhold, made comments about the weapons that I had equipped, and recognized my proficiency in specific skills.
5x more spells and effects-I'll give you this.
4x more type of monsters (30 in skyrim, 120 in morrowind)I thought I had heard this was proven wrong. In the end, to be quite honest, I haven't really noticed.
Attributes that effected skilltrees - Not depth. Also, there's no such thing as a "skill tree" in Morrowind. Morrowind's skills are nothing more than ever increasing numbers for your stats.
No Perks - Perks actually add MORE depth to Skyrim's skill system.
No smithing, enchanting - Enchanting is in Morrowind, and Smithing is an entirely new skill, which by definition adds depth.
Mysticism, 1 handed blade, blunt 2 handed blade, blunt - All of these things are still in Skyrim. Mysticism is merged with Alteration (and Soul Trap merged with Conjuration), and weapon specializations are perks in the One Handed and Two Handed trees, as you can perk into which weapon type you want to specialize in.

I am a huge Morrowind really devoted fan, but I don't think I can agree that it's "deeper" than Skyrim.

Honestly, much of what you said is true sadly. Some points I disagree on but I don't exactly feel like striking up a conversation to discuss it. I will say that you are absolutely, 100%, indefinitely (need I go on?) spot on about the Factions and the Main Story.