Richard Ham on bots

Post » Sat May 14, 2011 2:34 pm

okay so i have some good news for all the complaints about bots.

Richard Ham was just on a live stream from Machinima and he got asked a few questions, one of the big ones was about bots.
Basically what he said is:
-the bots are not stupid
-the hold back and wait for you to do the objective, even say for example a bot soldier is at the objective he will not complete it in the first few minutes.
-they get more intelligent and aggressive as the time ticks down and they realise your aren't going to get the object done
-they act more intelligent when there is more humans on the opposite team.

he also said splashdamage will change their settings to full out if thats what community wants so the bots wont hold back at all.

hopefully this will calm the bot haters for now :)
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luke trodden
 
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Post » Sun May 15, 2011 12:34 am

he also said splashdamage will change their settings to full out if thats what community wants so the bots wont hold back at all.


That almost sounds like a threat. I'm ready! :toughninja:
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Charlotte Henderson
 
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Post » Sat May 14, 2011 6:10 pm

Awesome news.

Oh and is there a link to go back and watch this?
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Manuela Ribeiro Pereira
 
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Post » Sat May 14, 2011 1:45 pm

It does sound almost like a threat... INTRIGUING!!! I love it.

It the words of a wise man, "Just Do IT!"
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Gisela Amaya
 
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Post » Sun May 15, 2011 3:14 am

Will have to do some playing around tonight but really my only gripe is with the bots fairly consistently playing this back and forth over the neutral buff station battle rather than having any recognition for the need to regroup to escort.

Either a "come to me" command or a division of teams (one working on neutral stations and the other on the primary objective) would be huuuge in confronting this.

Though tonight I might have some more friends on and a bit of luck with the server joining so that I need not worry about allied AI so much.
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Dean Brown
 
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Post » Sat May 14, 2011 3:22 pm

challenge accepted
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Nichola Haynes
 
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Post » Sat May 14, 2011 3:23 pm

Maybe their amazing reactions can be slowed a bit in turn for being smarter...
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Robert Jackson
 
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Post » Sat May 14, 2011 1:36 pm

Interesting.... I have yet to play it (will get to do so today or tomorrow, I hope!) but I've heard the teammate bots were a little....dumb and the opponent bots (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFy9_4fucos, I guess, lol!) are somewhat relentless and aim really good.

A "come to me"/"regroup" command like your main commando guy in the Star Wars: Republic Commando would be welcome, I would think. :)
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Nicole Mark
 
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Post » Sat May 14, 2011 4:05 pm

Thats the real AI fault you cant interact with them command wise. The bots pick up the pace at the 2min mark. They go from passive to super aim bot. It's like they cant really help until the end of the match. DO NOT PLAY without someone covering your ass,If the bots could just do that I would be happy. I'am at 80% hack mr medic bot,so why did you run off to revive a guy 120 feet away.
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Post » Sat May 14, 2011 5:33 pm

Richard Ham laying down the law again. http://oi51.tinypic.com/2lntklk.jpg

Good to hear, I did have fears that bots were a little on the dim side.
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Post » Sun May 15, 2011 3:19 am

Try bringing up console (ctrl+alt+`)

Then:
net_allowCheats 1
bot_fakeOverTime 1
bot_aimSkill 0 (or up to three for aimbot aiming)

Don't know if it will work because of the odd way it seems to work. Somebody give it a go.
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Post » Sat May 14, 2011 2:45 pm

As human Team VS team the game is great. Bots are not so much on the dim side. They just need some way for you to say "hey I need you over here to watch my ass".
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Post » Sat May 14, 2011 3:02 pm

The medic AI will risk life and limb to get you that diabetes pen. The game is pretty cool certainly played worse.
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Post » Sun May 15, 2011 1:40 am

Yes, yes the bots are stupid.. they don't defend objectives. They run in, clear out an enemy or two, then the entire team of bots just spread out and start running throughout the map aimlessly.I also have a problem with objectives being directly in enemy spawns, creating horrible choke points thereby ruining all fun altogether. He can kiss my ass for the 2 1/2 hours I spent trying to get that damn data key in security mission 2 on easy. That was not fun, that was miserable.

This entire launch has shown me how much [censored] Splash Damage are full of and I refuse to support their company further.
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Post » Sat May 14, 2011 5:32 pm

Well if they are planning to "release the lions" as it were I suggest we all enjoy
the easy bot exp while we can. :frog:
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Post » Sun May 15, 2011 12:14 am

This entire launch has shown me how much [censored] Splash Damage are full of and I refuse to support their company further.


Don't let the door hit you on the way out..... :wavey:
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Post » Sat May 14, 2011 4:26 pm

Yes, yes the bots are stupid.. they don't defend objectives. They run in, clear out an enemy or two, then the entire team of bots just spread out and start running throughout the map aimlessly.I also have a problem with objectives being directly in enemy spawns, creating horrible choke points thereby ruining all fun altogether. He can kiss my ass for the 2 1/2 hours I spent trying to get that damn data key in security mission 2 on easy. That was not fun, that was miserable.

This entire launch has shown me how much [censored] Splash Damage are full of and I refuse to support their company further.

Haters gonna hate, Bethesda=God and Splash Damage=Jesus and I will not
suffer blasphemers, REPENT YOUR SINS!!!



:bowdown: :tes:
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Post » Sun May 15, 2011 1:39 am

Don't let the door hit you on the way out..... :wavey:



The manager gave me full retail price upon return because he agreed the game was crap. I'd say the door opened itself for me and then proceeded to wax its hinges.
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Post » Sun May 15, 2011 12:00 am

The manager gave me full retail price upon return because he agreed the game was crap. I'd say the door opened itself for me and then proceeded to wax its hinges.


Oh. I guess the game must be crap if he said so as well.
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Post » Sat May 14, 2011 11:46 pm

IwouldlikegeniusAIkthxbye
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Post » Sat May 14, 2011 8:47 pm

Lol i can see it now...

Richard Ham asking everyone one last time "Is this what you really want?" And upon a unified "Yes!" He cranks the AI up to 11 and they become complete geniuses and masters of the game, leaving you, the player, looking like a 4-year-old.
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Post » Sun May 15, 2011 4:30 am


-the bots are not stupid

Just programmed poorly.

-the hold back and wait for you to do the objective, even say for example a bot soldier is at the objective he will not complete it in the first few minutes.

In the meantime they get mowed down.. See first reply.

-they get more intelligent and aggressive as the time ticks down and they realise your aren't going to get the object done

Not that I have seen.

-they act more intelligent when there is more humans on the opposite team.

Not that I have seen.



I played some games on Easy -> Normal -> Hard.. I didnt see much of a difference.

Maybe their amazing reactions can be slowed a bit in turn for being smarter...


No kidding.

I almost had Mission 2 of Security completed.. I had the data key with only 1 enemy AI back at the upload point - > I saw him run a certain direction so I figured I could come up from behind to get him. I run up and slide around a corner only for him to instantly turn around and headshot me before I could get a single shot off.
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Post » Sun May 15, 2011 2:23 am

Yes that makes sense. Lost my first game (PS3=No Online) and nobody did anything. Won my second game in 3 minutes, changed to Assault Heavy.
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Post » Sat May 14, 2011 8:06 pm

it already seems like the bot on the other team is all out, they keep swarming me with full force lol
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Post » Sat May 14, 2011 8:13 pm

Having played only a few hours tonight (single-player, normal mode on PS3), I feel that the teammate AI need some tweaking for real.
The enemy AI is much more smarter than my teammates by a lot. I'm dying a lot because sometimes my teammates are wandering around
instead of defending/attacking whatever objectives we need to win.

Not that they don't help, they do. Sometimes. It's just they are just not smart enough to go anywhere toe to toe with the enemy.
Even I who's still new to FPS'es can do better than them, but I still need their support, lol!

(Dear teammate AI, don't go rushing into rooms full enemies. And, find cover, please? And, Medic AI, stay NEAR your teammates, please, lol.)
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