Just stumbled upon http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8294...

It got uploaded! YES! Thanks abot

cool! those can replace some of those nord and dunmer armor parts which don't fit as well into the mod.

Thats what i was thinking.

Also i was thinking of changing the wise-woman to a white argonian. to enhance here unique role and importance.

White Argonian would look great as the wise woman. That would help and make her stand out too.

I was thinking of giving the Fisherman Argonian some of Quorn's Crab armor. Or perhaps it would look good on the Watchers? Anything apart from the Glass they already have.

No need, the watchers are going to have Firstguard armor.

It doesnt state in the readme that it can or cannot be used. I have tried to e-mail the author but the e-mail gets bounced back. I am going to go on a leap of faith and use the armor, giving full credit and including a copy of his readme plus a link to the origonal mod.

I have changed all existing faction ranks with those that you have suggested here. I was unable to add new ones as a faction can only have 10 ranks.

Now, as to dialogue when the they say their class, that is diffrent from their faction rank. With the new faction naming in place the player isnt going to know wht faction rank means what. But by asking for class background ect... they get a sense of their faction status in a way. Make sense? So i wont be changing dialogue.


Heres the new changes coming up in the next update:

-Removed the quest related item in Muck_sack_01
-Added Owner ship tags to item's inside a14 Crater's bed and Tidy's Thing's shack.
-Added some items to the SS Deliverance ship, and added ownership tags to the items in the captain's room.
-Added two New NPC's to the SS Deliverance ship, and removed a table and two bracers.
- Fixed Vissed bounding box
- Fixed Stalks-in-muck's dialogue
- Fixed start and finish journal entries for ambassador quest
- Added a script to the hist door to make the player remove all boots/shoes before entering
- Added waterwalking script to Hiraaji
- Fixed scaring fish quest
- Added journal entries for scaring fish quest
- Added Vissed Meat quest to Stalks-the-Muck
- Changed Slather-Mar faction ranks to Argonian equivilants
- Changed Ladeesa from a wise women to a healer
- Changed Rattler-sithyorn's dialogue to match book refrences about her name for consistancy
- Changed Rattler-sithyorn's dialogue on "my trade" getting rid of ashlander refrences
- Fixed typo in book "Slather-Mar Clan"
- Fixed typo in book "An apologetic correction"
- Fixed typo in book "expansion plans"
- Changed Watcher dialogue to reflect the new Argonian ranks


still to do:

- Remove siltstrider and replace with mages guild + quests ( %10 done)
- Add new Leaf and crab armor's by Quorn
- Remove Galss armor from watchers and replace with Firstguard armor
- add swamp sound effects to Riller-Mosh

i noticed a few drowned watchers in my last playthrough, one by the temple, one in town. i'm assuming they aren't quest related as they aren't unique-id. maybe the watchers need water breathing?

Hey midget, i don't suppose you have any screens of the vissed in game?

Hey Midge, do you think you could post up the New Beta? I could work on some of the thing's you're planning, such as the sounds and Quorns armors. It would help speed thing's up.

you might want to beef up the hist guardians since they carry a lot of valuable items and are fairly easy to dispatch.

Ah, thanks for the Suggestion!

I am working on the sounds and armors as i type this lol. I will get the next version of the BETA up within the next few hours, however it wont have the mages guild. (i have kept that in a seperate esp) as its taking a lot longer to sort out.



Thats an idea, i will let Krovosos handle that while i work on the armors.

I am also putting together the ideas for a main qquest that could be done. The basics of it atm include a fake twin lamps memeber, the stealing of hist sap and the recovery of a young hist plant. Nut this is a long way off from coming into being as i need to fine tune the story and i first want to ensure that riller-mosh has as many problems fixed as is possible before a radically introduced new questline is implemented.

Avery small contribution to this excellent mod:

http://rapidshare.com/files/360405026/DRRillMap.zip.html

For Midgetalien, or anyone else who may find it useful.

DARoot

awesome got the pm - will check it out

Hmmmm.....

Tried to send you this by PM (learned a long time ago that sending links to beta-type files in open forum was a bad idea) but the Bethesda Forum software (?) kept giving me error messages and not showing the PM as "Sent." Maybe I'm just stupid, and don't know how PMs work here; maybe I'm not allowed to send PMs to Forum Administrators; I dunno...

So, gave up and posted on the Forum Thread.

Nonetheless, Good to hear you got the PM (and, you may get several, since I kept trying. If so, just ignore the extras. One lives and learns).

Feel free to modify anything I give you as you think best (the BIG change in my latest effort deals with the relative ranking of "Listener" and "Whisperer" -- seems like a "Listener" would be a lower-ranking type who can hear the Hist's whispers, while a "Whisperer" not only hears and understands the Hist's whispers, but can actually talk back to Her (and ask for guidance/wisdom/spiritual assistance, etc.))

I talk to the trees, but they don't listen to me...

Not a big deal, but affects some of the ownership tags in the Sisters of Hist cell, the "Listener's Chest" (containing the key to the Ancient Guardian's area), etc.

My included "ReadMe" describes WHO gets what new dialogue (I still can't be sure Windows Vista hasn't screwed up the .esp in some way, but I assure you, I tested it on my rig and it worked OK) so perhaps you can at least use this effort as a "resource," if nothing else, if the revised dialogue doesn't show up correctly -- e.g., everybody on the Morrowind mainland has the "Tales of Blardy..." topic, instead of just the three NPCs in Riller-Mosh.

Yours in service to the Hist

DARoot

DARoot,

Looked over the files, nice! i like the idea of the map and the book

The fixing dialogue for consistancy was also nice, thanks. However i have yet to come accross that quest, does it need journal entries or has that been fixed?

Awesome list! Good luck with the next release!

thanks

the next release wont have the mages guild yet. So i can get this nice big release out the way and focus on that.

Re: Blardy Quest

No, no Journal entries as of v2.2 ESM.

[Spoiler Alert]

Simon the Liar (in Fills Your Gills Pub) gives the Player a scroll talking about Blardy and his "treasure," and hinting at the Kelp Mine.
Jakis (_RillerImperialMessy) has a key that open's Blardy's "treasure chest," but he apparently thinks it's a key to Blardy's home.
A corpse (Blardy) in the depths of the (flooded) kelp mine contains a note indicating Blardy left a "key" with Jakis for safekeeping.
However, per the CS this "key" is required to open Blardy's "treasure chest" (also hidden in the depths of the flooded kelp mine, as alluded to in the scroll from Simon) but, as noted, Jakis (who has said key) tells the Player it's for Blardy's silt strider home, and "...doesn't work..."

So, I saw an "endless loop" of pointlessness in this quest (and, believe me, I tried EVERYTHING in my arsenal to open that **** chest, once I found it, to no avail. And my test avatar has all kinds of resources...) So, how to assure that the Player a) obtained the key (from Jakis), B) understood that the key was needed to open the chest, and c) if sent on a wild-goose chase searching for Blardy's "..silt strider home..." would get some useful information/experience.

My .ESP does not include Journal entries (I leave that up to you), but I do recommend them -- Journal entries are nearly bulletproof as dialogue filters, script triggers (or stopscript triggers), and providing almost 100% assurance that quest-related things proceed as YOU, the mod-maker, want them to proceed (and, in proper order).

Just my 2 cents/shillings/euros

DARoot

Nice! I will look at the quest and apply Journal entires.

I was thinking as well that some sort of guide/website/wiki/walkthrough might be usful. Something that lists all the NPC's, what services they have. A lst of all the items, quest walkthrough's ect...

could be a usful resource.

i noticed rar-asha still has 10000 gold, seems a bit excessive for his wares.

ah-meesha's hut in the swamp is pretty glitchy due to the alpha channels. it might be my computer, but it's constantly flickering.

the ancients in the underwater chamber are drowning, they need water breathing. same with the watchers, as they eventually start drowning.

the census office papers dialog is bugged, it doesn't check if you have enough gold, and doesn't recognize if you have the papers. seems like the papers are as useless as the sadrith mora papers.

the imperfect at the bottom of the sea needs to go, and replace it with dwemer statue or daedra statue.

belladonna in the swamps seem a bit odd since it thrives in frosty solstheim.

That might be a corupt save on your half, switching between esm's - in the current ESM he only has 500 gold.



not alot we can do about that. However if it is a corupt save from the detail you gave above, it may be that the old hut is still there under the new one. So try a complete new game with the latest ESM. If not then its just alphas i am afraid.

the ancients in the underwater chamber are drowning, they need water breathing.  same with the watchers, as they eventually start drowning.

Thanks for the heads up will fix that

the census office papers dialog is bugged, it doesn't check if you have enough gold, and doesn't recognize if you have the papers.  seems like the papers are as useless as the sadrith mora papers.

yeah, i was thinking of adding a guard at the entrance to Riller-Mosh that will not let the player enter untill they have the papers.


A quick glance in the CS shows the only imperect in Sotha sil and a broken one in sotha sil. I searched the sea around Riller-Mosh. No imperfect


again did not know about this. Will remove them

the broken imperfect is in riller-mosh -43 -15. it should probably change to a daedric statue since there's a daedra ruin close.

found out that the esm i still ( beta 2.2) have has both the new and the old shack (es_s_foodhut, and sm_rm_hut).