Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Packer's vs Vikings
Yusuke vs Kuwabara
Superman vs Lex Luthor
Goku vs Vegeta

I'm all for the world being shaped around us and what we do. However, are we really the only person who does anything around here? I mean, if we don't do anything...the world stops on a dime and waits. Isn't there anyone else doing any questing?

Now don't get me wrong. We shouldn't find emptied caves we've never been to. However...almost every hero I can think of has a rival. Someone that's always on par with them, always pushing to see who would win out in the end. With the ai quests we're getting now, do you think it could be possible to get an npc that shows up now and then and always chooses the other side of the conflict? If we choose to be the thief, have a guard always tailing after you. Or a thief that always apears before you're knight characer and always manages to slip away? Or a rival mage to dual against, one who chose to enter into the other mages guild?

I know we'll likely be the only ones that can hold our ground vs a dragon, but having a rival would make the other side of the game a little more interesting...in my mind at least.

Ps: Description is an obscure reference that got cut off...well...maybe not that obscure...but cookies for who tells me what episode its from! :cookie:

You wouldn't happen to be talking about Bulma by any chance...would you Kakarrot?

I think that would be cool. I'm not sure it would be possible though

Could work, but I would not want it as the main plot.

Ever played pokemon? Ever just had a massive fight, running to a pokemon centre, and then your rival comes out of nowhere and owns you?
That grinds my gears.

Very good point. It's somewhat disappointing to see that nobody is trying to steal your glory. A little competition would be welcome. In all that huge territory there must be at least one more person who thinks he/she's the dragonborn.

Quests from the Graybeards involving us getting lessens along with some other person whom has normal thu-um? Could be cool. But ya...there has to be someone else out there at least trying to make it as a big time thief, or mage, or warrior whom is making a larger splash than most. I mean, it always felt like we were the only one doing anything and getting anything done.


Oh no, not as the main plot. Just a side thing, so it feels like there are other people doing things out there. Like some guy mouths off to you in jail just before the plot starts, and then we run into them outside and they become our rival. Someone to fight against and try to out-whit.

On a side note...can't believe I forgot to put Red vs Blue and Ash vs Gary up there.


It's hard to say. Could happen with the new way their dealing with quests...but it's really hard to say. I'd like to see it tried at least. Or make it so you can run into other adventurer's out there doing stuff. Just so it feels more like we're not the only compotent people out there.

Good idea. I think it would probably work best if it was centered around a certain guild, i.e. you have a rival who ranks up at a similar rate to you within the guild and maybe then some quests that are competitive and somewhere you are forced to work together.

This would be great. Especially if you have multiple options, say you have a chance to save them, kill them etc. Would be nice after all your in-fighting you could be-friend your rival while fighting for a common goal. Even allowing them to become guild leader instead of your character (if your the honourable type)

Having a rival as the main quest story is quinda.... simple... and out of interest...

Between having a main quest where you must do something and and a main quest where you have a rival...I rather get something to do...


And I bet there would be Machinimas to make of it with Pokemon references...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qTSjNFMWjo&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

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Oh no, I agree...the rival shouldn't play a main role in the main story. Just a side story of a person we keep running to. Just so it feels like there are more people doing things out in the world besides us. I mean, it's always felt as if we were the only people doing things outside of towns. I'm sure with random encounters now that will change some, however a rival to go toe to toe against now and then could add to a feel that we're not all powerfull yet, and there are strong people out there that we still have to try and get better than.

Someone that has a chance to steal our thunder, or a reason to keep working harder than we normally would because we don't want an npc to pass us up. So we're not the only good/bad guy out there trying to leave their mark on the world.

A cool like detail for one of the guild maybe

but there's one they fear, in their tongue, Dovahkiin!

good idea though, maybe it could be fleshed out to make sense by Bethesda.

Well some NPCs will be helping out. Todd mentioned in an interview that there are a number of NPCs that will be companions. Not sure if they're busy questing or doing other things when not one's companion. An antagonistic humanoid NPC that was competing in some way with you (that is, not the dragons) would be tons of fun! Good idea, one the mod community may be able to work into the game! :thumbsup:

one of the things i always wanted to have, since ob
would be awesome and it would make the world a little bit more alive.

hope the developers took already notice of this. there was adoring fan..now time to take to another level

It'd be cool if you destroyed one town and when you went back to your town in was destroyed too for revenge..... And then you hunt down an opposite but near equal Wizard....

:intergalactic: and its Goku vs Superman :intergalactic:

rivals as in.. red trainer Vs blue trainer :celebration:

would be very cool but could be very hard to implement this late in development also..
vegetta and Goku were ultimately on the same team then were just stubborn, i think you meant Goku and freeza..
wheres jedi verse the dark force

Actually rivals usually aren't enemies, they are usually on the same team but are always competing with each other.

BTW thank you for the Dragon Ball references :celebration:

P.S: I think you jedi vs siths lol

Packer's vs Bears actually
But on topic i think that would be cool, like the cheydinhal recomendation.

You forgot the biggest one of all. Yankees vs red sox. Oh and Lakers/Celtics.

But yes I do love your idea. Not sure if something like this will be in Skyrim or not.

Good idea. I think there should be legendary npcs dotted around the game that other npcs refer to. When you get to a certain level the pop up and challenge you in some from or another. if you play the thief a legendary thief will pop up to challenge to to steal something before they do. Then a legendary warrior may be tasked to track you down. If you play as a warrior you take the warriors place but then the legendary thief hires a legendary mage to intercept you etc.

I'd like it if we could have friendly rivals too, like Legolas and Gimli

Gimli: Legolas! Two already!
Legolas: I'm on seventeen!
Gimli: Huh? I'll have no pointy-ear outscoring me!
Legolas: [shoots two more arrows] Nineteen!

Off-topic: DBZ FTW!

That only counts as one!

No. We're the last dragonborn damnit. If it turns into ash vs. gary scenarios i will break my thumbs. I don't want some rival following me everywhere i go. IMO that'd just get annoying really fast.

Maybe. I don't want the same person as my rival every time though (except maybe tailored for my character).