Hello guys.

I don't know if it's normal or not, probably not, but i don't have road textures in my game, as it is now. I'm in Anvil, and all the streets are grass, outside the circle in front of the guilds, and the road that leads out to Skingrad is completely grass as far as the eye can see. Same thing for the road that leads to Anvil Cliffs.

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I also have QTP3 installed, with Detailled Terrains packs installed over QTP3 and a Hi-Res road texture replacement that doesn't show up. The thing is , i deactivated all Detailled terrains, and the roads we're still grassy. People walk on it like it's the road (no floating textures or anything) and it sounds like grass, doesn't sound like road when you walk on it.

Is the road texture you're using mine?

I've never heard anything like this before. It sounds like the road texture has been replaced with a grass texture, but if you did everything you said you did it should indeed be a road texture there. Do you have a program like Photoshop or GIMP you can use to look at the texture? And can you take a screenshot of the problem?

I do have a picture of the problem, and yes i'm using your replacer, looks very good in pictures.

The picture is me sitting at the Anvil gate, looking up the road.

http://s532.photobucket.com/albums/ee325/Conker343qc/Oblivion/?action=view¤t=Oblivion2011-06-1308-40-31-81.jpg

That was with Detailled terrains deactivated. It's the same thing with them when activated but with better textures.

Bizarre. I really have no idea how there could be grass textures in place of the road ones, but that's exactly what it looks like. From where you are now, with vanilla textures, can you try installing QTP3, then DT, then my texture again, followed by archive invalidation? You might have already tried this 10 times, I don't know, but there's no reason why you should get that result with the grass following that procedure. I be stumped.

I did a BSA redirection again, we'll see what it gives me.

EDIT : No, didn't change a thing... it's just weird. It was that way before i installed BC and even before i installed ULs.

I don't know how a mod could be causing this, but you can try deactivating half of your mods, seeing if that fixes it, and if it doesn't, try deactivating the other half. After you're successful with one of the halves, you then proceed to deactivate half of that, then the other half of it, and so on continuing to split the groups in half until you've isolated which mod is causing it.

Tried disabling everything WAC, BC Anvil, MOE Quest delayer, and it's still doing it. I'll try cleaning some more mods.

It's not going to stop me to play but it's just wrong.

EDIT : Just replaced the Landscape/Roadstone texture again with the Palidoo's one manually, it changes nothing.

So, the textures are landscape/roadstone01.dds and roadstonesmall01.dds. I can't see how grass would be showing up there unless something has specifically changed all roads to different textures. And if you've disabled every single mods and it's still doing it, man, I have no idea. Maybe if you reset the BSAs in the archive invalidation options and then try redirection again, or alteration, which is what I use. I'm totally stumped.

My deduction: It's not a resource problem, it's a plugin problem. You have a plugin that has changed the file path of the road texture to be that of a grass texture. Verify this by simply disabling ALL of your plugins long enough to go check.

Then disable all but the most popular: Better Cities, Kvatch Rebuilt, WAC, Cobl, Supreme Magicka, etc., as there are thousands of people using those mods but not having this problem, so you can probably rule these out as culprits.

Add the rest back in a few at a time till you figure out which mod is giving you grief. Once you figure it out, report it to the author, and use TES4Edit to remove the change to the vanilla landscape texture.

That is what i'm going to do soon. It's just feels a bit weird, but in some places, it feels somehow not so out of place. Anyway, thanks for the tip i'm going to try that out soon.

Ok, just checked off every mod outside D.R material (NifSe was makin' OB crash without DR).

Roads are still grassy. Only Oblivion.esm, HorseMaster.esm and DR plugins are active , with Shivering isles, but S.I wasn't installed yesterday and it was still the same.. and it's S.I, so it's not that.

I'm gonna load oblivion.esm in TES4Edit and see if there's a problem.

EDIT : (going into landscape textures parts of the .esm) -- ok, i've just checked and the RoadStone01 texture seems to be used at 00187C99 record, when i load Oblivion.esm in TES4edit. Now, what's that code ? I don't even know if it's the good one lol. Outside that code and the one under it, where RoadStoneSmall01 is used, the texture is not used anywhere else. The texture that is replacing the road is pure grass, no mud, no stone, just plain green grass.

Loading Oblivion.esm into TES4Edit isn't particularly productive, as it can't be edited anyways. Oblivion.esm by itself will always be "correct". So to speak.

Test again with nothing but Oblivion.esm loaded. Really nothing. That means also disabling your OBSE plugins, like NifSe and Detailed Terrain and OBGE and whatever else you've got.

If you don't still have the problem, add your OBSE plugins back in one at a time, testing between each, to see if the problem comes back. If it doesn't, also add back in HorseMaster.esm and your DR plugins/NifSe. If after all that, you still don't have the problem, shrug and go about your day.

If you still have the problem with just Oblivion.esm, however, verify one more time that the files on your hard drive ..Oblivion\Data\Textures\Landscape\RoadStone01.dds and ..Oblivion\Data\Texturse\Landscape\RoadStoneSmall01.dds are either not present, or are actually road textures. If you don't already have a program that will let you view these files quickly, grab http://developer.nvidia.com/object/windows_texture_viewer.html.

If you have these files and they aren't road textures, delete them.

If you don't have these files, then the game is pulling the textures from the .bsa, and the copies in the .bsa are grass textures, which means you modified it. If that is the case, reinstalling the game (or reverting to a backup) is the best course of action.

It's uber weird. I started the game with absolutely nothing, with the auto exe starter, and still the roads are grassy. I checked with WTV, i opened the RoadStone01.dds file, and the RoadStone texture is indeed Road stones...

I'm amazed. That's what we call randomness. Oblivion's been random on me but that's the weirdest shot of it all.

Not sure if I can be of any help here but if you ever used the OBMM bsa alteration feature there's little chance that your original textures are now somewhat messed up if you didn't remove the BSA edits. You might want to check that by extracting the roadstone texture from the original bsa as Khettienna pointed out. Also note that Detailed Terrain needs the shader pack to be patched by OBMM, so you might want to revert to the original shaders before testing any further with no mods enabled. Have you made a backup of the shaders folder?

No didn't do any back-up of it, unfortunately. But that's just weird because on my old setup, i had D.T on and i never had any problems like that.

Also, i never used BSA alteration, i always use redirection.

Only thing that it looks to me is that somehow default texture has replaced some other texture. By default texture I mean texture that is on the top of the list for that cell.
Have you tried loading Oblivion.esm in CS and check if it is OK?
If it is, turn your landscape editing tool, and simply change some textures (not change but just poke a bit so that asterisk turns on). Save that dummy .esp and load it last and check in game if it's fixed.

Welp, I'm a loss, Conker, I don't know what else to tell you. Re-install time!

Have you tried resetting Oblivion's INI file? Try going into the My Games folder under My Documents and renaming Oblivion.ini to something else then start the game again.

Wouldn't it be easier to at least try what I suggested first? Sometimes I get feeling that I'm being ignored. :confused:

He might also kill everyone but the vampires, climb Dive Rock and shout at the top of his lungs I AM LEGEND

Oooh, I didn't see your post, sorry Wash! :hugs:

make sure iMaxLandscapeTextures is set to 0 in your Oblivion.ini file.