Robes over armour.

Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:26 am

[font="Tahoma"]Morrowind had a system where a robe occupied a different slot than the chest piece. Meaning you could wear, for example, an entire set of steel armour, with an enchanted robe OVER IT and truly giving you a battlemage/spellsword feeling.

What happened to this? I don't even remember if Oblivion removed this feature or not. Would you like this feature? Also if you think it's OP, please comment below.

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For all you people who are saying no, because you think it would be too hard to implement, read the question again. The OP does not ask that, all they ask is whether or not you think robes should be able to be worn over armour, regardless of implementation time and effort.

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Brian LeHury
 
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 11:13 pm

Ya those were the good old days.... I think they should have at least made separate pieces of armour that were combined with robes in the first place as to make it less of a challenge to implement
next step, cloth physics
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:57 am

Morrowind had a system where a robe occupied a different slot than the chest piece. Meaning you could wear, for example, an entire set of steel armour, with an enchanted robe OVER IT and truly giving you a battlemage/spellsword feeling.

What happened to this? I don't even remember if Oblivion removed this feature or not. Would you like this feature? Also if you think it's OP, please comment below.



was too complicated for this game. devs probably figured people would get confused.
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El Goose
 
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:00 am

I like it a lot. I want the game to be more like Daggerfall and Morrowind and less like Arena and Oblivion.
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Matt Gammond
 
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:40 am

Why would anyone vote "no" on this poll?
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:04 am

was too complicated for this game. devs probably figured people would get confused.


How is the concept wearing a clothing piece over something else something complicated and confusing? It's like wearing your pants over your underwear. If what you say is true, I am truly frightened how TES sees the average purchaser of Skyrim.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:03 am

How is the concept wearing a clothing piece over something else something complicated and confusing? It's like wearing your pants over your underwear. If what you say is true, I am truly frightened how TES sees the average purchaser of Skyrim.

He thinks he's funny saying that Skyrim is dumbed down.
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Kate Murrell
 
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:30 pm

Layering is "redundant". That's why my wardrobe consists entirely of http://www.pajamacity.com/images/J713-RD-red-flannel-footed-pajamas.jpg.
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Shelby Huffman
 
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:26 pm

That would be nice
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:53 pm

C'mon, naysayers. If you are voting no, at least let me know WHY. What are the disadvantages? I can't think of none but added choice and versatility for hybrid classes.
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Heather beauchamp
 
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:45 pm

I always thought wearing a robe over armour was pretty stupid actually. Now if they accomplished the same goal by letting you wear a cape that would be OK.
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Post » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:58 pm

Layering is "redundant". That's why my wardrobe consists entirely of http://www.pajamacity.com/images/J713-RD-red-flannel-footed-pajamas.jpg.

genius!!!
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:32 am

C'mon, naysayers. If you are voting no, at least let me know WHY. What are the disadvantages? I can't think of none but added choice and versatility for hybrid classes.


I think you will get no answers mate, because it is too complex to write!... ...They just barely read, and smash buttons :wink_smile:
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:52 am

I'd prefer that if you get a layer of cloth over armor it would have to be a tabard.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:34 am

How is the concept wearing a clothing piece over something else something complicated and confusing? It's like wearing your pants over your underwear. If what you say is true, I am truly frightened how TES sees the average purchaser of Skyrim.


its not TES its video games in general these days. its all about flashy graphics and no brain required.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:20 am

I'd prefer that if you get a layer of cloth over armor it would have to be a tabard.

This would be OK too.
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matt white
 
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:20 am

In Morrowind, you could wear clothing under your armor. I mean - who wears their armor right next to their skin? The chafing! :cryvaultboy:
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:41 am

Would be cool if my character could look like baal from prologue in the diablo 2, (the scene when the armor flashes through the robe)
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Jordan Moreno
 
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:54 am

I just want it because it looked really cool. Especially when you got mods involved so the robe could be open to reveal parts of the armor underneath. Cool look.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:23 am

C'mon, naysayers. If you are voting no, at least let me know WHY. What are the disadvantages? I can't think of none but added choice and versatility for hybrid classes.


It's an opportunity cost issue: dev time spent on implementing this feature is dev time not spent on developing other features. Making a system where cloth with deform realistically over a variety of armor shapes is not trivial. They'd either have to make a unique model and/or texture for every robe/armor combination possible along with a system which could properly determine which combination to render (an absurd amount of extra work for the art department) or they'd have to implement a cloth-simulator which actually looks good interacting with a shape as varied and complex as all the possible sets of armor (an absurd amount of extra work for the programmers).

It would be neat, but it's doesn't even come close to being worth the additional man-hours it would cost Bethesda, not for such a minor feature. There's a million other things the game needs worse, and that's why I voted "no".
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:58 am

actually, it was more time spent restricting item placement than not. if you look at the code, the BOTD is where an item can be worn. items with the same code will replace each other. the mods that allow you to wear more than 1 item are simply setting that field to 0's. meaning they could've just left the field out and let you wear whatever you want. of course, wearing 10 helmets would be rather silly so some limitations should be imposed. the script to zero all items would take any coder less than 5 minutes.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:23 am

its becuase it would look like absolute crap there would probably only be 3 or 4 sets that would not clip into one another
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:37 am

For all you people who are saying no, because you think it would be too hard to implement, read the question again. The OP does not ask that, all they ask is whether or not you think robes should be able to be worn over armour, regardless of implementation time and effort.

Personally, I loved the flexibility of Morrowind, where you could have clothing under your armour and a robe over the top. It allowed you to customise your character to a greater degree and actually made clothing a somewhat useful loot item. In Skyrim, I currently leave the clothes on the people I kill, for it's not worth the weight to actually loot 99% of the clothing (I think Fancy Shirt or something similar, was the only one with a cost/weight ratio that made it worth it).

I know I spent a fair chunk of time trying to decide which clothes/robes I should wear in Morrowind, though admittedly enchant values did influence my choices.
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:38 am

For all you people who are saying no, because you think it would be too hard to implement, read the question again. The OP does not ask that, all they ask is whether or not you think robes should be able to be worn over armour, regardless of implementation time and effort.

Personally, I loved the flexibility of Morrowind, where you could have clothing under your armour and a robe over the top. It allowed you to customise your character to a greater degree and actually made clothing a somewhat useful loot item. In Skyrim, I currently leave the clothes on the people I kill, for it's not worth the weight to actually loot 99% of the clothing (I think Fancy Shirt or something similar, was the only one with a cost/weight ratio that made it worth it).

I know I spent a fair chunk of time trying to decide which clothes/robes I should wear in Morrowind, though admittedly enchant values did influence my choices.


Thanks for clarifying this. I will edit my OP with a portion of your text for clarification!
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Robert Jackson
 
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Post » Sat Dec 17, 2011 11:29 am

I really miss the layering of clothing from Morrowind.

It svcked that no one even ever made a mod for layered clothing in Oblivion.

I hope someone can make such a mod for Skyrim.

As for being too hard to implement: No. It wouldn't be. It's actually easier with the way the [censored] already works. You would simply not render anything under another set of armor; like wearing a full helmet doesn't render your head. :facepalm:
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