Personally i would like answer 1 over answer 2, but i would like for them to both be included as rival guilds.

They should be an evil cult who steal purely out of their hatred for humankind! They'd murder but they get squeamish around blood.

i voted dillinger i guess, but really i want BOTH options. I really enjoyed the Bol Molagmer stuff (sp.?) in Morrowind.

yeah but if I put a BOTH option in most everyone would pick it

This is a great idea. I love to hide and steal in games, but always feel guilty doing it. When you try to play as yourself theres that doubt in the back of your head everytime you are presented with the option to steal something.

Great idea, love it.

I think the thieves guild should be malicious - they should steal for the sake of wealth and notoriety - think of a bunch of hackers who do it just to get their name known. The guy who leaves a calling card where your diamond necklace was. Then you should have a rival (maybe just one guy) who wants to take them down because they draw too much attention to themselves. That's where your character comes in. Murder is still out as that falls into the Tong or DB (but maybe the two could work together or something). In the end, it would just be nice if the guilds acknowledged each other's existence.

Nobility, honour, and trust should be their goods. But still keep the most

I feel like that's how it's been done. It's getting kinda trite IMHO.

I preffer the Robin hood approach, but it would be better to have both options.

Poll badly needs a "neither" option.

Thieves should have their own agenda that they *think* is good, but doesn't necessarily match up to some niave Robin Hood-esque idealism. They should be like a secret society.

I want it like this: Honor among thieves.
Thievies should have honor in the guild only.

But they shouldn't give a damn about beggars or such.

So I want none of the options you say in the poll.

I wanna be like an avaricious theif and all, but I also wanna help the poor. Oh well I'm not gonna vote.

obviously not exactly like robin hood or completely malicious. but along those lines.

Thieves don't always do what they "think" is good, they just do what they want.

Well Thieves guild is for stealthy characters. Dark Brotherhood is also for stealthy characters. The Dark Brotherhood is evil. So I would prefer the Robin Hood thieves guild, so you can have good stealth and evil stealth guilds. But if we could experience both evil and good thieves guilds it would be sick and then nobody will complain. There will also be rivalry between the 2 guilds in that way.

I added a choice that reflects this.

Thanks

yeah... It's hard to be greedy and giving. (learned a new word today)

I kind of like the idea of a bunch of robin hoods running around. As long as they dont rob me!

People don't forget the thieves guild actually has a lore. It came from Nocturnal the thief chick goddess thing. She was good and used her stealth in good ways if I'm not mistaken in oblivion she referred to the 2 argonian thieves as dirty scoundrel good for nothing thieves. She also tells you to keep the skeleton key for your reward and tells you to use it wisely in the right way. I'm just so wishing they'll put in an original good thieves guild and also an evil one. So you can choose who to side with...

Thieves guild should be chaotic neutral.

This. The thieves guild is not in it to help others, they are there to help themselves. They are not an evil organization trying to screw everyone over, but nor are they some charity band of men in tights.
In lore the thieves guild has little to do with Nocturnal, and their origins next to nothing. It's implied the guild existed before the Gray Fox stole the cowl of Nocturnal, and the only thing really connecting that Daedric prince to the guild is the member's respect of her and her domain (shadow hide you). In Oblivion the reason the beggars were under the protection of the Gray Fox was because they had a business arrangement: they would not be stolen from, and in exchange would work as the eyes and ears of the guild.

If anything, the Thieves Guild should only be in it for the money, or for personal glory and the continued existence of the guild. Keep it morally gray.

I say something like the Godfather.


And I say that because it's a great movie.

Hey dont come with your Neverwinter nights evil good classes here . lol

It's D&D really. NWN and Baldurs Gate both used such alignment-classes because they are solely based on D&D.

I'm not correcting you, cause you were right. I'm just hittin ya up with some useless knowledge.

I underlined what I disagree about of what you said. I agree with the rest.
The beggars in Oblivion weren't under protection of the Gray Fox because they wouldn't be stolen from. I mean... they are beggars, they have pretty much nothing, so there's nothing to steal.
The beggars were instead proteted because they would be given things, like... gold, food, etc, in exchange for information. So it's kind of the opposite of what you said. They would be given things, not stolen, in exchange for information.

I just had to mention it when I read what you said, because it's pretty important. The idea of this Robin Hood thing isn't a bad thing by itself. But it was overdone in Oblivion.

Personally, I kind of want a mix of all three poll options, but with "honor and respect amongst thieves (Godfather)" as the main thing to focus on.
Most thieves should stick to the honor amongst thieves.
A few thieves could be really gold-hungry and be scoundrels, and sometimes break the honor of thieves.
A few thieves could, once in a while, give gold or food to beggars in exchange for infromation.