I dunno, Fallout could use Human horses. :spotted owl:

Centaurs maybe? As far as glitches go, RDR did have some of the best I've seen.

To the OP:
But seriously, why would Rockstar be better than Bethesda? RDR was a good game, but we've already seen Fallout jump to another company. Any more jumps would just dilute it's spirit even more. Fallout 3 wasn't everything I hoped it would be, but I really liked it, and I think they will do a good job on Fallout 4.

Shooting as well. But yes there is not much to do it is in fact a wild west GTA kind of. I prefer it more because its nto GTA. But there is no skills, you just go around and do missions. There are stats but yopu dont level. The way you walk around adn do combat could be good but I would say no way I would want Rockstar to make the game.

Hey, if Rockstar can keep the game the same way and NOT [censored] up the game all to hell. Then yeah, they should.

I may be wrong on this, but I gave up the story mode in GTA IV as so far as I could see, you had to do the missions in order. And if you failed a mission, you couldn't progress until you'd cracked it.
And you had to wait until the mission started again, then go through the bits you could do until you got to the bit you couldn't, and if you failed again ... back to waiting for it to start over.
I expected that if you failed to stop someone getting away, for example, it would change one of the subsequent missions. But no, you just had to keep trying.

I played a bit of RDR, and it seemed similar. So for me, they're both great for sightseeing, but I find the mission structure frustrating. Also, they may be 'sand boxes' but they're not open world, with lots of things to find and do, like the best RPGs.

Besides which, if they did a proper RPG, how do you know it wouldn't be full of bugs/glitches?

Merry Christmas to one and all!

No, although I like Grand Theft Auto, I don't want to see a "GTA: New Reno."

Nooo, nooo. Bethesda atleast is making RPG's.

They are changing his character drastically and not using the same voice actor. Also I think the change in setting is a bad one and is going to ruin the "max payne" atmosphere. Also I don't think its going to be very noir, which I like about the series. I think Remedy would make it better.

Why don't we give Fallout to EA and get Fallout The Sims while were at it.

I just think that every company it goes to they try to make it fit more in line with their games and not make it fallout.

WTF!? I'm sorry but you're freakin' [censored]... If Rockstar had ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING with Fallout it would be to make a REALLY living city!

By the way, Red Dead Redemption.

Ahem, it's story is ripped from GTA IV.
GTA IV: Find Dimitri.
RDR: Find Bill, Frank and that mexican filler guy.

It's difficulty curve goes up and down more than an apple bopping contest.

It's story in Mexico is pointless.
The government is a bunch of [censored]s.
The revolutionist guy is an [censored] who basically just does his revolution in order to do the same thing the last guy did.

Marston is whipped like crazy.
He always tells people "I'm tired of your crap, help me or I'll leave."
And what does he do?
He helps them out anyway like a good little lapdog.

The ending, while a twist, was pointless. The climix AND the final quests missions.

And the best part of it is... *Drum rolls* HORSERIDING!

Listen, if I were to give the game a score out of 10 I'd give it 3.5.
5 whole points is taken off strictly due to the horse riding crap.
- "Oh, I need to travel across the map? Greaaaat.... I'll just watch my horse's ass bop up and down while I tap a and then hold down a, then tap a, then hold down a, then tap a, oh look! It's an encounter? Oh... It's the same one as the last 50 [censored] times..."
I know you can use the caravans to fast-travel, but you can only do that in town, and you can't do it over countries until you've completed the game, which meant if I wanted to go to Armadillo from [Mexicanian town] then I have to rid my horse all the way there from the closest mexican town and watch my horse's ass bop up and down while I tap a then hold down a then tap a, then hold down a, THEN TAP A, THEN [censored] HOLD DOWN A!!!!! AAAARGH!!!

And 1.5 points are taken off from Mexico.
It's story was uninteresting, pointless, repetitive, the character were all jerks, the whole thing felt like a filler arc, and the landscape was annoying as [censored] with it's cliffs and crooked roads.
Oh, and the fact that killing the government guys results in -honor, but at the end they turn out to be the bad guys and I don't earn -honor anymore.

Then we have the -honor horse which won't [censored] go away unless you do a crapload of miniquests to get your honor points up.
The -honor horse has crap speed and always runs away from me.
And he always... ALWAYS... Come back to me no matter how many times I kill it.

Red Dead Redemption is one of the most overrated games ever filled with tedious annoying crap, bad storytelling, uninteresting NPC's in mexico and a [censored]-slap ending.

So Rockstar would make Fallout right?
Nope.
GTAIV was a sad depressing over realistic garbage of a game.
And RDR was a poorly written, tedious, half-assed game which had a glimpse of potential that Rockstar failed to grasp.

Balled Of Gay Tony and The Lost And Damned were awesome games, and Undead Nightmare is kinda fun, but guess what, you know the caravan thing you could use from town to town at least?
Well, that's gone, so now I have to ride my horse everywhere... And tap the a button and hold down the a button then tap the a button... *twitch*

So.
Rockstar has lost it's touch.
I'd expect GTA: Super Gritty Realism in the next year or two and if I feel suicidal enough to get some perspective on a more depressing story then I'll buy it.

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And yes, it did feel good to finally vent it. :fallout:

I'd rather see fallout be butchered and have it work then paying 60 bucks for an incomplete product.

Although RDR is a great game Rockstar is not a developer who could do Fallout any justice. If any other company got the rights to the series I'd rather it be Bioware as they have some great ideas that could come to the series. The best one being the conversation wheel which would be good for a Fallout game.

The conversation wheel is a lazy design IMO.
No better than every other black and white game out there, only that they changed the words to Renegade and Paragon instead of Good and Evil.

Rockstar would make a completely different game, and I won't use what I consider to be a worthless argument by saying "it's not Fallout", especially considering I think Bethesda is more fit to create Fallout games than any company that does exist or ever has existed (yes, I believe they are more fit to do so than Black Isle was and more fit to do so than Obsidian), but I just don't see Rockstar getting the rights to Fallout and I hate the idea. I want exploration, therefore I want Bethesda to continue to create games for the series, and Rockstar can't deliver that, among many other things.

The renegade and paragon in Mass Effect 1/2 is actually a contrast between Lawful and Chaotic if you are using the DnD scale. BOTH options are just different methods to get the same result. There is no evil in mass effect, at least not that I have seen yet.

Okay..
It's still crap though.

It's true that the Mass Effect dialogue system is basically the same mediocre type of style BioWare has been using since Baldur's Gate, but I wouldn't call the system "lazy". BioWare's style is to restrict the player to ethical or unethical choices because that's what they like to do and that's what works for them, and there's nothing wrong with that. I just don't play BioWare games when I want to play an RPG with deep dialogue.

Bioware was my RPG source back in the 90 and the first milleniums ...... until EA bought it :S

EA should get the rights to Fallout. They'd do right by the series.

NAH, Ubisoft is da best!!!!!!

If anyone it should be Obsidian.

This

I don't know about most people, but I HATED Red Dead Redemption.

Red Dead is ok but there isn't really any detail to the world...I mean even GTA4 had more. The reason there aren't lots of glitches is because there isn't really any depth to the gameplay. (I own red dead by the way).

Red Dead was a pretty huge disappointment for me. The story was pretty horrendous imo, the multiplayer was terrible, the shooting was awful. But then again I attribute this to 3rd person games...they are usually very shallow and have clunky unresponsive controls. Any game that's non assisted targeting mode is so inaccurate that I am forced to play with the auto targeting loses in my book.

I would love to see a western in the style of Far Cry 2 but with rpg elements.

Leave fallout the way it is, I loves it :turned: