romantic relationship

Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:54 am

Don't be mean to bioware!


Bioware writing is (and has always been) better than Bethesda, Bethesda -should- start ripping them off in that department.
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Laura Tempel
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:58 pm

The point that people seem to keep repeatedly missing is that games that involve killing, require an emotional distancing on the players part. Yet, ironically people want to vest themselves emotionally in a way that will be experienced incompletely. I keep hearing all the [censored]ing about real life and immersion, but the fact is, it's highly discouraged and forbidden in close quarters where the career involves some level of violence. IE, military, police, rescue personnel. You have to focus on getting teh job done, not be distracted by some trivial stuff that
your ingame significant other is going on about. Distractions like that in real life get you killed, good and dead.
Myself, I am not so emotionally bankrupt and lacking in interpersonal relationships that I must resort to demanding romance in a videogame that I play.
Not to mention, it opens up a whole can of worms about superiors and subordinates being involved. Judging by the reactions people had to Uncle Crassy's less than sublte demands, romance could backfire in hilarious and humilation ways for the player.


Also, since people are going on about it being real, I expect the game to be KINECT READY.
Cause I want to feel like I am really hiking up that mountain, really swinging that sword, shooting that arrow,dodging flame breathing dragons, and really smacking the crap out of anyone that asks me to make a sandwich, or says "By Azura, By Azura, By Azura! It's really you, standing here, with ME!"


Wait, so you think that people who would like the option for "romance" in a game must all be emotionally bankrupt loners? I happen to be in a very happy long-term relationship but I also find Bioware's companion quests the most interesting out of the entire game. The same concept can be applied to people that are fans of romantic comedies or police dramas. They aren't necessarily unhappy with their own relationships or career choices, people just like to watch (or in the case of games, interact with) the things that they enjoy. Romance in games doesn't have to all be about cheesy dialogue, gift-giving, and lame six cutscenes. I don't think that's what people are asking for. Just because YOU don't want to take part in a certain aspect of a game doesn't mean that other people have to agree with you.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:39 am

^Agreed

*snip*

One, my character is not a soldier. Relationships wouldn't distract him cause he is a scholar not a fighter and he doesn't have to be emotionally distance (not completely sure what that means, I don't have emotions :D, but I can guess).

Two, you don't have to be emotionally bankrupt to want romance in a game. Tell that to all to my EXs who played the sims.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:28 pm

I'll stick to dead family members and "Social Workers" :hubbahubba:
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Rachael
 
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:42 pm

Relationships just don't sound like they would be good for TES. Just my opinion really I mean I'm not going to be upset if they add it, I will just play the game the way I deem correct.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:32 am

Ok, first off... the game is fantasy. It's an escape.

Some people think their "escape" should just be barreling through a dark corridor with a monsterous scream, blades flailing.

Some people think their "escape" should be spending 4 hours meticulously arranging ditigal objects in their digital little house, even though NOBODY (except perhaps housemates) will ever see it or enjoy it. Let's face it, no one cares about your screenshots or YouTube videos showing how you set your table.

Some people think their "escape" should be about achievement and completionism, and they only play the game for the points because it makes them feel good and it's a comfortable waste of their time.


To say that game should not have an optional feature, that would NOT dictate or ruin your own experience, is selfish and as "stupid" as the proposed feature is itself.

I'd love to see romances in Skyrim, so long as they were:
+ Hidden and seamlessly integrated into the game (i.e, there isn't a big neon sign that says, "I'M A ROMANCE OPTION! HELLO!")
+ Varied and enough to satisfy anyone's tastes (straight options for either gender, gay for either gender, asixy, bisixy, etc -- even add some depth with some wanting mono and others poly).
+ Totally optional and not a significant part of the main game. Although, if you lead your publicly-known lover to the center of town and cut their head off, that should probably alter how people see you.


I am a FEMALE player and I LIKE the romance options, if they are story-based. I don't play the games for "eye candy" (some guys do when they run around with female avatars) or six scenes. I like them because they give me something else to attach to my character that I really enjoy. Maybe my romance partner likes to go frollicing into the wilds to kill goblins and bandits. Maybe they abhor violence and aren't happy unless I speech-check my way through the game. It's just a DETAIL, and one that can add depth if done well enough.

Seriously, most of the posters in this thread appear to be arrogant males who are somehow threatened by game-based romances (evidenced by the fact that they can't seem to understand there's a difference between a real-life relationship and a gameplay one).
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:53 pm

Seriously, if some Bosmer chick came up to me in Skyrim, flirting, I'd cleave her face off.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:19 pm

I'd like some romance in Skyrim. We are freaking adventures, we save the world and kick some dragon ass, we should be able to buy that barmaid a drink.

AND MAKE IT GOOD, nothing like fable. Like Harvest moon where only a select few girls/guys are available so that they are actually interesting.

And actual dialogue please no JOKE THREATEN BOAST JOKE JOKE ADMIRE OMG I LOVE YOU NOW crap.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:43 am

I really don't like the idea of romances for the PC - but I do hope the relationships between different NPCs are more realistic.

ditto
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:59 pm

Ok, first off... the game is fantasy. It's an escape.

Some people think their "escape" should just be barreling through a dark corridor with a monsterous scream, blades flailing.

Some people think their "escape" should be spending 4 hours meticulously arranging ditigal objects in their digital little house, even though NOBODY (except perhaps housemates) will ever see it or enjoy it. Let's face it, no one cares about your screenshots or YouTube videos showing how you set your table.

Some people think their "escape" should be about achievement and completionism, and they only play the game for the points because it makes them feel good and it's a comfortable waste of their time.


To say that game should not have an optional feature, that would NOT dictate or ruin your own experience, is selfish and as "stupid" as the proposed feature is itself.

I'd love to see romances in Skyrim, so long as they were:
+ Hidden and seamlessly integrated into the game (i.e, there isn't a big neon sign that says, "I'M A ROMANCE OPTION! HELLO!")
+ Varied and enough to satisfy anyone's tastes (straight options for either gender, gay for either gender, asixy, bisixy, etc -- even add some depth with some wanting mono and others poly).
+ Totally optional and not a significant part of the main game. Although, if you lead your publicly-known lover to the center of town and cut their head off, that should probably alter how people see you.


I am a FEMALE player and I LIKE the romance options, if they are story-based. I don't play the games for "eye candy" (some guys do when they run around with female avatars) or six scenes. I like them because they give me something else to attach to my character that I really enjoy. Maybe my romance partner likes to go frollicing into the wilds to kill goblins and bandits. Maybe they abhor violence and aren't happy unless I speech-check my way through the game. It's just a DETAIL, and one that can add depth if done well enough.

Seriously, most of the posters in this thread appear to be arrogant males who are somehow threatened by game-based romances (evidenced by the fact that they can't seem to understand there's a difference between a real-life relationship and a gameplay one).


perfect description! couldnt have said it better myself lol
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:01 am

perfect description! couldnt have said it better myself lol


nor I
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:23 am

Romance is okay but not if it is compulsory a player should be able to back out if they are not interested

Having someone to do clean and repair all the swords and junk i bring home and then take them off to the market and sell them would be more useful for me.

Or having someone who could comment on my adventures might be okay too - but I suppose that's what the mentor is for at the start.

Somehow i don't think the writers are really the mills and boon type - dialogue is pretty much get to the point in TES. Am sure the modders will come up with companions and romance and be far more committed to doing so than Bethesda.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:18 am

It would add more depth and realism to the game but TES games are more of a Lone Wolf affair. The games don't even acknowledge companions, with the exception of a few escort missions here and there.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 11:40 pm

Beyond tavern wenches (or... what is the male version of a wench?) I really can't see the need for a hardy adventurer to indulge in "love".
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:03 pm

Beyond tavern wenches (or... what is the male version of a wench?) I really can't see the need for a hardy adventurer to indulge in "love".

A wonch maybe....? lol
A manhoe
A whoa Man!!!
A duderina.?
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:21 pm

So many people seem to hate the idea of romance in TES. Why? If you don't like romances in games so be it, I personally hate first person shooters...but they are very popular with some people. If you don't what romance, just don't do the missions or quests that pretain to romance, but to say it "shouldn't" be in a game that's supposed to let players "live another life in another world" how can you NOT have romance? I hope they do have it in the game, optional, but still there for those of us that like the experience.



I whole heartedly agree
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:27 pm

It's a real and natural living world.
Full of unplanned pregancy,
and rampant stds.
Where tired parents cry
and colicky children scream.
Where dirty diapers lie
in soapy piles by streams.
Where adventures trade blacksmithing
for dragonslaying dreams.
Where your medieval wife
dies in childbirth.
Most folks won't
survive to advlthood.
Go on,kill your dragons
in your real and natural living world.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:15 pm

no thankyou.. if i need romance i will play fable or the sims.. or get a girlfriend
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:19 pm

I'll all totally for romance and having a relationship, if it's done properly. I love more realistic immersion like that. It really does add more to the game. I get so tired of the combat-oriented stuff. There's more in life than fighting.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:53 pm

Romance would be great if its included. Don't know why some people are so against it... Bethesda needs take a page from Biowares book. not just relationships but I mean actual consequences for your actions. For example when your the grand champion of the arean no one really cared accept that lil kid, or when you join the dark brotherhood the people you killed didn't really change anything. Also I would like it if you can kill anyone, where I really wanted to kill the queens and kings just to see what happens but you couldn't.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:29 pm

You don't need false relationships.

Yeah, and you don't need false dragons and false magic either. Wait a minute...

Make it optional. Put in 1 or 2 willing bachelorettes per town. The overhead will be minimized. You satisfy those who will ignore them and you satisfy those who want the trophy wife.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 12:23 pm

If they add gay ones too, then sure. Though as long as I can have welll written friendships with one or two companions I'm not too bothered if romance is in or not.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:48 pm

Please add a romantic relationship in Skyrim! If you want to make a living and natural world that without it no how! Look how many games already have a romantic relationship! Just to be able to go with the player character and a couple of phrases about love! Please! Please! Please! :cry: :( :( :(


Well, there are some minor ones in ESIV--Hasathil is having an affair with Morvayn's apprentice in Anvil (can't remember his name, but they're both Bosmer). And in SI, there's the whole Thadon and Syl romance that is weaved somewhat discreetly into the main quest, but which affects it immensely (I've dissected that whole thing for my story, to get as much out of it as possible, and it's actually much bigger than it seems, because of the affects it has on the line of the main quest...) :wub:

So, there's at least a couple of examples of romance in TES, and I'm content with that. Of course, a little more wouldn't hurt, as long as it doesn't take away from the action and adventure of TES. :D
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:58 pm

... closest thing to a romantic relationship in Skyrim should be the relationship between the player and wenches serving the mead in the Feast Hall.
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Post » Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:46 pm

No, thank you. Having seen what the Bioware forums have become, just no. Flirt options or something like the Ahnassi "romance" would be fine, but full-fledged romances eat up too many resources and lead to endless unhappiness on the part of players dissatisfied with their choice(s).
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