Ronald Reagen National Airport Truth : Fallout Series Discussion

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:10 pm

Possibly true #1: It was nuked alot maybe, Since the goverment could have relocated from there. Since its been nuked, The rest of it should of collapsed and fell in to dissarray.

Possibly True #2:It was nuked alot, Then the rest of it. Would have collapsed and got sent off by the ocean off from the mainland.

Possibly True #3:Aliens removed it?

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:53 pm

Did Ronald Reagan even become a president in the Fallout Universe or did he keep starring in bedtime with Bonzo?

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:39 pm

Did Ronald Reagan even become a president in the Fallout Universe or did he keep starring in bedtime with Bonzo?

Yes, Since John Henry eden said, Every president from George washington to Richardson.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:01 am

He didn't mention Reagan by name

» Fri May 27, 2011 11:32 pm

He didn't mention Reagan by name

Neither did he mention Roosevelt, Truman, or Obama even.

Doesn't mean they don't exist just because their not mentioned.

» Fri May 27, 2011 10:35 am

Ronald Reagan airport was National Airport in the 1950s.

I've posted a couple of time about why it's not in the game. It should be just east of the Pentagon.

Several have said that the equipment there was used to build Megaton, and the rest just washed away. I find that hard to believe.

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:13 pm

Yes, Since John Henry eden said, Every president from George washington to Richardson.

Well, according to the http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Divergence article on the wiki, the Fallout world likely diverged* from ours somewhere between 1947 and 1955.
Ergo, until 1955 at the latest the presidents would be the same as in our world but after that it probably took a different direction, which means that Ronald Reagan likely never became president of the US in the Fallout universe.

*The wiki says that the point of divergence is speculative. It is a fact that it did diverge but the precise point it did so remains unconfirmed, hence the relatively large span of years; '47 - '55.

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:14 pm

The airport existed before it became the Reagan National Airport. It was constructed in 1940-41.

» Fri May 27, 2011 10:22 pm

The airport existed before it became the Reagan National Airport. It was constructed in 1940-41.

Yes, I saw the post about National Airport.
Guess it was either turned into something else the Fallout world, or the developers didn't want/forgot to add it.

» Fri May 27, 2011 11:14 pm

Manya in Megaton said that Megaton was built from scrap taken from the an airport, and that after the airplanes were gone the wasteland just "up and took it back" and that you can't even see where it used to be.

» Fri May 27, 2011 11:11 pm

Reagan was pretty seriously anti-commie. More so than Nixon, I believe. So I think it's safe to say he was president in the Fallout world.

Also, he was a pretty popular actor in the 50's, so I don't see why his life would have differed all that much. Just because the world's history diverged doesn't mean that everything was different.

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:52 am

The only confirmed president, was Nixon(Fallout 2).

» Fri May 27, 2011 11:47 pm

Actually, a FO2 holodisk also mentions the "Reagan Era". But this particular holodisk has many inconsistencies with the Fallout timeline and was later retconned as having been tampered with by Sierra Army Depot soldiers.

» Fri May 27, 2011 6:01 pm

It's really all speculation. It can be safely assumed that presidents remained the same through Eisenhower, but it is a complete unknown after that. It can neither be proved or disproved that the list of presidents remained the same (and the Fallout Bible doesn't say). That being said, it is very unlikely that it was exactly the same. Since in the Fallout world the Cold War never ended, it is likely that presidents who were staunchly anti-communist could be the same as in our world. As for those who were not (and are not), I seriously doubt those individuals would have been elected in the Fallout Universe..

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:09 am

The only problem with Reagan being in power, is that the Soviet Union still exists....which you figure in the Fallout World, where anti-communism and nuclear tension was so much higher, that Ronnie would have nuked the USSR back into the 15th Century.

» Fri May 27, 2011 8:56 am

It's really all speculation. It can be safely assumed that presidents remained the same through Eisenhower, but it is a complete unknown after that.

Well, we also known from Fallout 2 that Nixon was president. Which is pretty consistent with Fallout's divergence, considering that he was a prominent politician even before it, and Eisenhower's VP. Perhaps it's Nixon that won the 1960 election in the Fallout world, not Kennedy?

» Fri May 27, 2011 5:52 pm

The only problem with Reagan being in power, is that the Soviet Union still exists....which you figure in the Fallout World, where anti-communism and nuclear tension was so much higher, that Ronnie would have nuked the USSR back into the 15th Century.

Perhaps in the Fallout World he was still elected, but was unable to bring about the economic collapse of the Soviet Union by Russia trying to match the Star Wars program, as happened in our world. But again, all speculation and unless Bethesda updates the Fallout Bible with a "presidential timeline", we can wonder about it until the cows come home..

» Fri May 27, 2011 8:26 pm

Perhaps in the Fallout World he was still elected, but was unable to bring about the economic collapse of the Soviet Union by Russia trying to match the Star Wars program, as happened in our world. But again, all speculation and unless Bethesda updates the Fallout Bible with a "presidential timeline", we can wonder about it until the cows come home..

Personally the way I've come to explain the continued existence of the USSR, is that Boris Yeltsin met an unfortunate end to a bullet from a "Muslim Extremist"(KGB Agent), angered by continued Soviet aggression in Afghanistan. As for Gorby, I figure that he never actually came to power, and instead the Hardliner Yegor Ligachev took the reigns of power.

» Fri May 27, 2011 1:03 pm

As for Gorby, I figure that he never actually came to power, and instead the Hardliner Yegor Ligachev took the reigns of power.

Or the USSR was reformed like Deng's China in the real world (which would explain the fact that e.g. a Russian consul was given a place in Vault 13 - seems like the relations between the US and the USSR weren't that bad), while in China Deng never had a chance to realize his reforms and the country continued to be ruled by hardline Maoists.

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:06 pm

Or the USSR was reformed like Deng's China in the real world (which would explain the fact that e.g. a Russian consul was given a place in Vault 13 - seems like the relations between the US and the USSR weren't that bad), while in China Deng never had a chance to realize his reforms and the country continued to be ruled by hardline Maoists.

If that was the case, then the USSR would have signed the "New Union Treaty" making it and its SSR's a federal state. Though, if Gorby's reforms of Glasnost and Perestroika were realized then it's logical to assume that the "Wall Fell" in the Fallout timeline too.

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:44 pm

Though, if Gorby's reforms of Glasnost and Perestroika were realized then it's logical to assume that the "Wall Fell" in the Fallout timeline too.

Which is why I think it was more akin to Deng's reforms - reforming the economy to a more free market one, while keeping the government as authoritarian and despotic as before. Who knows, maybe the wall did fall in the Fallout timeline, but Germany was united under DDR rule?

» Fri May 27, 2011 2:22 pm

Which is why I think it was more akin to Deng's reforms - reforming the economy to a more free market one, while keeping the government as authoritarian and despotic as before. Who knows, maybe the wall did fall in the Fallout timeline, but Germany was united under DDR rule?

So an ending similar to "Goodbye Lenin"?

» Fri May 27, 2011 12:29 pm

Possibly true #1: It was nuked alot maybe, Since the goverment could have relocated from there. Since its been nuked, The rest of it should of collapsed and fell in to dissarray.

Possibly True #2:It was nuked alot, Then the rest of it. Would have collapsed and got sent off by the ocean off from the mainland.

Possibly True #3:Aliens removed it?

The correct answer is: Its actually the most realistic pre war building in the game (by having pretty much no trace of the location left)

» Fri May 27, 2011 9:25 am

The correct answer is: Its actually the most realistic pre war building in the game (by having pretty much no trace of the location left)

English please?

I didn't understand.

» Fri May 27, 2011 7:29 pm

As in, all buildings should realistically be razed to the ground by the bombs. In FO3, the DC after a nuclear bombing is in better state than Warsaw was after WW2, thanks to conventional bombings.